Wait, so these kids are here because Obama doesn't enforce our border? Where exactly did they come from then? Did they pick these kids up in Kansas? Oklahoma? Sounds like the border is pretty well guarded, it's why we have these people in custody in the first place! Dumbass!
Could you be any dumber?! Don't answer that, I don't need to see you be even dumber! Way to one up boomerang on the stupidity front!
Holy shit, there are still people that believe Obama is telling the truth. Unfuckingbelievable.Again, you tell me if the law is written that way, what Obama can do? You do know how asylum works right?
It's easy to complain but more difficult to find a solution innit. That's why Obama has been trying to work with Mexico to prevent the smugglers from busing in these children and also to get the word out that most of these Children will be sent back and not be granted asylum to prevent more parents from sending their kids.
Holy shit, there are still people that believe Obama is telling the truth. Unfuckingbelievable.
Obama unilaterally halted deportations of young illegals by executive order in 2012....little did he know of the unintended consequences of this action. Now we have a huge problem. Just one more example of his inept leadership imo. History will not treat him kindly.
Why don't you tell us how that order led to this crisis.
See post #200. The administration didn't foresee it, they orchestrated it.Do you guys really believe the Obama Admin didn't foresee this happening?
Dumbest reply ever showing true ignorance
See post #200. The administration didn't foresee it, they orchestrated it.
If the border was truly guarded, they would have never gotten PAST the border to be picked up into custody.
It seems the border is more "manned" than "guarded".
LOL good your mom fell of the stupid tree when you were being born, out of a basement window.
If we had a secure border, the kids wouldn't get it.
Bigger walls, towers with guns, alligators and gunships in the water - That is a guarded border.
To be clear I'm not saying it would be a good idea, I'm saying that would make the border more guarded.
See: Koreans + DMZ for an example of a guarded border.
Why don't you tell us how that order led to this crisis.
Lol! Wut! So you want to fire on people who aren't in this country? You know what that's called right? It's called an act of war.
Obama unilaterally halted deportations of young illegals by executive order in 2012....little did he know of the unintended consequences of this action. Now we have a huge problem. Just one more example of his inept leadership imo. History will not treat him kindly.
Lol! Wut! So you want to fire on people who aren't in this country? You know what that's called right? It's called an act of war.
Electrified fence then behind a giant wall, with a one way gate so they can go back into Mexico scott free. It's easy when you think outside of the box.
And your solution for the many hidden tunnels used? You don't have to answer, I see that your intellect is on par with michael1980 and stewox's, that is to say, not very high.
DEA seems to know how to find drug tunnels, I'm sure the border patrol can leverage that knowledge. Just because the illegals have other ways doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop them where we can
The hard data, however, shows us that the jump in migrant child apprehensions has coincided neatly with the advent of DACA, with the biggest growth coming shortly after 2012
Is there another explanation for the catastrophic rise, other than the presidents policy?
Elizabeth Kennedy, a doctoral student at San Diego State University and Fulbright scholar who has been living in Central America since October interviewing migrant children, says absolutely: An increase in violence.
At the same time the violence has gone up, the willingness of the state to protect its citizens has gone down, Kennedy said. So, what you have is people who are more or less for themselves, and if you find yourself in a position where you are targeted by crime you do not have anyone to turn to.
Kennedy currently resides in El Salvador, one of three countries, along with Honduras and Guatemala, that have witnessed a massive uptick in unaccompanied children trying to cross the border.
She says kidnapping, rape, extortion and disappearances are all on the rise, with climbing murder rates also contributing to mass migration.
For the month of May, 401 people were murdered in El Salvador, Kennedy observed. And 379 in June. Thats an average of 12-and-a-half murders per day. You know, theres nowhere else in the world besides a handful of countries, like Syria, South Sudan and Honduras that have higher homicide rates.
The reality is that the U.S. shares these concerns.
The White House has issued travel warnings for both El Salvador and Honduras.
In its caution to U.S. citizens traveling to El Salvador, the government notes, crime and violence levels in El Salvador remain critically high.
Violence in the region has clearly played a role.
I'm sure violence is a factor as well...especially Honduras. El Salvador and Guatemala....not as much. Do you have any data that indicates a sudden and significant increase in violence in all these countries that just happens to coincide with the huge increase in illegal children trying to enter the US since Obama signed his executive order in 2012? I think not as this problem has been escalating for quite some time now. Yes...people want to leave the violence and poverty...but it isn't like these issues suddenly exploded in 2012. Obama signed his executive order in 2012. The inflow of these children markedly escalated in 2012. These countries heard that the USA was giving amnesy to children and that was all the catalyst it took to to start this debacle. You say my rationale is empty and simple-minded. Please enlighten me.So, from the article you posted. Why don't you post a quote why the article believes Obama's policy led to this immigration Crisis.
I would wait, but you won't be able to do. Because the article has no rational. What the article does is says
IT doesn't say why or how. But uses a correlation to magically prove a causation.
But the article does say this.
You are welcome to try again. But I assume you've come up empty again. Because your rational is empty. The article is made for simple minded people like those on the rights.
I'm sure violence is a factor as well...especially Honduras. El Salvador and Guatemala....not as much. Do you have any data that indicates a sudden and significant increase in violence in all these countries that just happens to coincide with the huge increase in illegal children trying to enter the US since Obama signed his executive order in 2012? I think not as this problem has been escalating for quite some time now. Yes...people want to leave the violence and poverty...but it isn't like these issues suddenly exploded in 2012. Obama signed his executive order in 2012. The inflow of these children markedly escalated in 2012. These countries heard that the USA was giving amnesy to children and that was all the catalyst it took to to start this debacle. You say my rationale is empty and simple-minded. Please enlighten me.
Obama is all about amnesy for illegals...you know it and so does the rest of the world. And I'm sure that he didn't anticipate the unintended repercussions of his 2012 executive order. No, it's not all his fault and I never said it was..but he definitely shares the blame for what we're seeing now imo.So, you're argument is simply that people were misinformed about Obama's policy, so it's all Obama's fault? Right gotcha.
That's not simple minded enough for you?
It is time for the USA to set up our military on the Mexico side of the border. It is obvious that Mexico is incapable of keeping order, so lets just take over Mexico.
A nation building mission in Mexico would have been 20x as successful as our boondoggle in Afghanistan. Mexicans actually want to be like us, and share similar beliefs and values. We could have eradicated the drug cartels, built schools, hospitals, etc. instead of squandering those resources on people who hate us halfway around the world.
Changing border boundaries would eliminate the need to patrol the border and would save a lot of money. Then too, Americans wanting to vacation in Can Cun or other tropical paradises in Mexico, could freely travel to those spots. Then there would be no need to patrol the southern United States border any longer.
Civil liberties and lifestyles would greatly improve for all Mexicans as the United States could spend its middle east war money on a worthwhile cause namely, bring Mexico up to the same standard of living as what the Americans have already.
Say Hola to the new citizens of the United States!!