Icelandic volcano could trigger Britain's coldest winter EVER this year

John Connor

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atmosphere can trigger DECADES of chaotic weather patterns.Tiny pieces of debris act as billions of shields reflecting the sun’s light away from earth meaning winter temperatures could plunge LOWER THAN EVER before while summer will be devoid of sunshine.
The first effect could be a bitterly cold winter to arrive in weeks with thermometers plunging into minus figures and not rising long before next summer.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/natur...r-freezing-cold-winter-this-year-if-it-erupts


And for the U.S



Winter's going to be colder than usual and next summer hotter. So says the Old Farmer's Almanac, the familiar, 223-year-old chronicler of climate, folksy advice and fun facts.


http://www.kcci.com/news/new-winter-prediction-just-released-in-old-farmers-almanac/27642452


The Farmers Almanac was right last year with the cold temperatures.
 

GagHalfrunt

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The Farmers Almanac was right last year with the cold temperatures.

And the Farmers Alamanac is right about as often as a blind epileptic monkey throwing darts in a hurricane. They bat about 50/50, same as blindly flipping a coin which, for all anyone knows, is exactly what they do.
 

Iron Woode

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can we blame AGW, I mean Climate Change, for the volcanic eruption?

I am sure there must be some twisted enviro-logic to accomplish this, right?
 

Jumpem

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First they complain about global warming. Now they are concerned about temperatures dropping. Make up your minds.
 

mmntech

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can we blame AGW, I mean Climate Change, for the volcanic eruption?

I am sure there must be some twisted enviro-logic to accomplish this, right?

I'm sure it's white people's fault somehow. Probably those "eco-friendly" geothermal power stations disrupting the magma chamber.
 

T9D

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can we blame AGW, I mean Climate Change, for the volcanic eruption?

I am sure there must be some twisted enviro-logic to accomplish this, right?

I was going to say the same thing. Don't worry they will find a way to bring climate change into this as the cause.

Or perhaps they will just make sure it's buried information so nobody knows the real cause, much like how they rarely mention the greater activity of certain sun cycles.
 

88keys

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I wonder what Alex Jones has to say about this.

I'm sure he'll tell us that there is nothing to panic about and that everything is okay because he is a completely rational human being.
 

John Connor

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LOL! Alex Jones would have you believe that when the thing goes up the feds will put you into a FEMA camp.
 

boomerang

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And the Farmers Alamanac is right about as often as a blind epileptic monkey throwing darts in a hurricane. They bat about 50/50, same as blindly flipping a coin which, for all anyone knows, is exactly what they do.
So, they're about as accurate as meteorologists.
 

lxskllr

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Sounds good to me, but I wish the sob would erupt in early spring to get rid of summer for a year.
 

Jumpem

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if this was a sarcastic remark then thumbs up!


if this genuine then well ok then

It's a little bit serious, If you are regularly complaining about the earth warming, then don't complain again when it may cool.
 

manimal

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It's a little bit serious, If you are regularly complaining about the earth warming, then don't complain again when it may cool.

so I am being a little bit serious in saying they aren't mutually exclusive. Fifth grade stuff bro just saying...
 

Jeffg010

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And the Farmers Alamanac is right about as often as a blind epileptic monkey throwing darts in a hurricane. They bat about 50/50, same as blindly flipping a coin which, for all anyone knows, is exactly what they do.

"The Farmers’ Almanac makes predictions based on planetary positions, sunspots and lunar cycles — a prediction system that has remained largely unchanged since its first publication in 1818. While modern scientists don’t put much stock in the almanac’s way of doing things, the book says it’s accurate about 80 percent of the time."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/20/r...e-than-govt-climate-scientists/#ixzz3BKUEtxIV

I heard 80% accurate. I was quite surprised when I first heard that number but that is the number that keeps coming up.
 

GagHalfrunt

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"The Farmers’ Almanac makes predictions based on planetary positions, sunspots and lunar cycles — a prediction system that has remained largely unchanged since its first publication in 1818. While modern scientists don’t put much stock in the almanac’s way of doing things, the book says it’s accurate about 80 percent of the time."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/20/r...e-than-govt-climate-scientists/#ixzz3BKUEtxIV

I heard 80% accurate. I was quite surprised when I first heard that number but that is the number that keeps coming up.

And the bible says it's accurate 100% of the time. Actual scientists who are not paid by the Farmer's Almanac have charted their accuracy and have determined that the Almanac's "predictions based on planetary positions, sunspots and lunar cycles" are as accurate as a coin flip.

Read More:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/winter-forecast-part-iii-the-old-farmers-almanac

http://news.psu.edu/story/141165/2007/09/24/research/probing-question-farmers-almanac-accurate

http://www.ibtimes.com/farmers-almanac-winter-2014-forecast-draws-skepticism-weathermen-1401939
 

Jeffg010

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And the bible says it's accurate 100% of the time. Actual scientists who are not paid by the Farmer's Almanac have charted their accuracy and have determined that the Almanac's "predictions based on planetary positions, sunspots and lunar cycles" are as accurate as a coin flip.

Read More:
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/winter-forecast-part-iii-the-old-farmers-almanac

http://news.psu.edu/story/141165/2007/09/24/research/probing-question-farmers-almanac-accurate

http://www.ibtimes.com/farmers-almanac-winter-2014-forecast-draws-skepticism-weathermen-1401939

OK but if you take all the predictions since 1818 they come out to about 80% and that you can't dispute.


Also I just looked up the first link from wunderground. They are cherry picking the bad years and start claiming how bad the farmers Almanac. How about you take all years from 1818 and see how accurate it is and it comes out to be 80%. I did not bother to read the other links after see that crap.
 

GagHalfrunt

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OK but if you take all the predictions since 1818 they come out to about 80% and that you can't dispute.


According to whom? Cite a legit source, not someone that works for the Alamanc. You can't possibly be dumb enough to accept "we're right because we say we're right". Or, maybe you are.
 
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People, stop being idiots and acting like scientists are claiming absolute knowledge of everything involved (and therefore you have to dispute them as being know it all pricks when something new impacts their claims), or that cooling (or actually mitigation of warming) refutes their claims. It just makes you look like an ignorant dumbfuck who's intentionally blatantly ignoring a large portion of the facts.

I'm guessing a lot of people's attitudes on this is in their mind justified in response to political caricature attribution, although I'm not sure why you think doing the exact same thing doesn't make you look the same. Only you're also being a dick for just being reactionary dumbfuck that instead of actually making a coherent argument backed up by something other than your belief that the other side is wrong, you just resort to the same level of idiocy you claim from the other side.

I was going to say the same thing. Don't worry they will find a way to bring climate change into this as the cause.

Or perhaps they will just make sure it's buried information so nobody knows the real cause, much like how they rarely mention the greater activity of certain sun cycles.

Real cause, of what? A volcano erupting? Ah yes, they're always so keen to bury that information. Oh wait, no its sun cycles that's what caused the eruption! Oh, you mean you were just trying to spout off shit that you think refutes AGW? Ah yes, they just bury that information, nevermind that its openly actively studied and is and has been considered for its impact on climate change. But you're right, I'm sure scientists have just been ignoring the input from the sun, despite it being the source of the general energy for the planet, and the key source of the solar radiation that dictates the temperature of the Earth's atmosphere and surface. Its only a basic part of the situation, I'm sure they just left it out entirely.

Weird, because something tells me they'd argue that greenhouse effect is actually even worse for that as it means the trapping will be even worse during the high points, while mitigating the temperature reduction during the low points, in effect, overall leading to warmer temps throughout.

Oh what's this?
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/08jan_sunclimate/

Damn it, look at NASA trying to bury that information!

It's a little bit serious, If you are regularly complaining about the earth warming, then don't complain again when it may cool.

A little bit serious but a lot stupid. Do we really need to discuss why cooling because of a volcanic eruption isn't just an absolutely positive thing? Hell that's actually a point climate science has been making is we're seeing delayed effects because of cooling due to volcanic activity, which has skewed models, and is why we've seen delay in the effects. That means we will still see the change, but it'll likely be compounded so the change will be more rapid later.

There are other factors as well, like it impacting plant growth. Thankfully its generally not much of an issue, but volcanic eruptions could have devastating impact on food production.

In short, its a lot more complex than just temperature and acting like a simple thermostat change is all that's happening. But nah, anyone who complains is just being a hypocritical asshole who really has nothing to complain about.

"The Farmers’ Almanac makes predictions based on planetary positions, sunspots and lunar cycles — a prediction system that has remained largely unchanged since its first publication in 1818. While modern scientists don’t put much stock in the almanac’s way of doing things, the book says it’s accurate about 80 percent of the time."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/20/r...e-than-govt-climate-scientists/#ixzz3BKUEtxIV

I heard 80% accurate. I was quite surprised when I first heard that number but that is the number that keeps coming up.

Did you actually read your link? Because the source for 80% are the people who write the book. That's why it keeps coming up.

Guess where they get it from?

The Almanac Publishing Company claims readers of the Farmers’ Almanac have attributed an 80 to 85 percent accuracy rate to the publication’s annual forecasts.

You're right, that holds up to scrutiny, no reason at all to question the validity of that claim.
 
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