what banners are you talking about? i dont have any banners. i was using 2000a, but i am now using 2000b, because of a HDD crash and i couldn't find an older version. in 2000b, while it has all the extra crap you dont need, i have disabled it all, and my window now looks exactly the same as it used to in the 99x versions. the only exception is a small logo saying "icq 2000b" which is no more than 15 pixels high. sure it might use more memory/space, but that hasn't been an issue for me.