Idaho College Murders of Four College Students.

[Moonbeam]

Unfortunately I’m not a professional copy editor, but all this gibberish could probably have been said in 2 sentences and without using need 9x

You seemed to have no problem with the wall of text from Muse explaining what the plot of Crime and Punishment was about but seem quite certain that when I attempted to explain to Muse what Dostoevsky’s intentions were in producing that plot from the very link he quoted and some additional material to explain that critique, only my wall of text seems to bother you. I suspect then, it isn’t the wall of text that offends you so much as it is that something about my point of view makes you uncomfortable and you would like distance yourself from it.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Spoiler

You seemed to have no problem with the wall of text from Muse explaining what the plot of Crime and Punishment was about but seem quite certain that when

I attempted to explain to Muse what Dostoevsky’s intentions were

Spoiler

in producing that plot from the very link he quoted and some additional material to explain that critique, only my wall of text seems to bother you. I suspect then, it isn’t the wall of text that offends you so much as it is that something about my point of view makes you uncomfortable and you would like distance yourself from it.

 

[eelw]

Well getting back on topic, I wonder if the parents suspect anything? Obviously their official statement says we believe in his innocence and will trust the system. Like what made his father fly to the west to help him drive the car back cross country? And back to the arrest, why knock on the door at almost 2 in the morning?

 

[WelshBloke]

HOLY WALL OF TEXT^^^^
above two posts
@Moonbeam nobody is reading that. Far too much info for a forum post.
I recommend trimming that to a short paragraph or better a few sentences.

Shame no one said that to Dostoevsky tbh.

 

[Muse]

Spoiler

You seemed to have no problem with the wall of text from Muse explaining what the plot of Crime and Punishment was about but seem quite certain that when

I attempted to explain to Muse what Dostoevsky’s intentions were

Spoiler

in producing that plot from the very link he quoted and some additional material to explain that critique, only my wall of text seems to bother you. I suspect then, it isn’t the wall of text that offends you so much as it is that something about my point of view makes you uncomfortable and you would like distance yourself from it.

Ah, the ensuing exchanges have convinced me (I had a notion already) that I should never have tried to interpret Crime and Punishment much less post Wikipedia treatment of it when referencing the book in connection with this Idaho murder event. I should have done nothing more than say that I had the book, had never succeeded in getting far into it, knew something about its reputation and it had come to mind when thinking about this case. Period.

 

[Perknose]

Ah, the ensuing exchanges have convinced me (I had a notion already) that I should never have tried to interpret Crime and Punishment much less post Wikipedia treatment of it when referencing the book in connection with this Idaho murder event. I should have done nothing more than say that I had the book, had never succeeded in getting far into it, knew something about its reputation and it had come to mind when thinking about this case. Period.

Now drop and give us twenty.

 

[Muse]

Now drop and give us twenty.

I had surgery on one shoulder some 20 years ago, I dare not give up twenty in penance. Honestly, I'd prefer to just skate ten miles, if you don't mind.

 

[Perknose]

I had surgery on one shoulder some 20 years ago, I dare not give up twenty in penance. Honestly, I'd prefer to just skate ten miles, if you don't mind.

In that case, I'll let you skate.

 

[HomerJS]

Personal observation:

I notice the media esp right wing are not using this case as an example of crime out of control which is their usual narrative

 

[eelw]

Personal observation:

I notice the media esp right wing are not using this case as an example of crime out of control which is their usual narrative

But if it was a minority person who committed the crime, can’t imagine the Faux News outrage

 

[Moonbeam]

It's true. When I'm depressed I don't always know how to get out of it. Even if something I try doesn't work it usually resolves pretty quickly kind of naturally. Sometimes has something to do with something that happened, usually something that shouldn't have precipitated bad feelings but somehow did anyway.

I don't laugh off people being depressed. Hey, most people are kind of depressed. Like Joan Baez said once, "most people strike you as being only 1/2 alive."

Ah, the ensuing exchanges have convinced me (I had a notion already) that I should never have tried to interpret Crime and Punishment much less post Wikipedia treatment of it when referencing the book in connection with this Idaho murder event. I should have done nothing more than say that I had the book, had never succeeded in getting far into it, knew something about its reputation and it had come to mind when thinking about this case. Period.

It was the first post here and my general sympathy for your inner state I feel I have gotten to know from reading your posts that motivated my response to your Dostoevsky post. I have a concern for people who who suffer from bad feelings. You are also doubtless aware from reading the things that I present on that topic that I am a very unpopular guest who presents all manner of unpleasant facts regarding why we suffer from such feelings.

So ask yourself if you really regret the keenness of your mind, that you should see a connection between a book you have consciously avoided reading and the fact that a deeply intriguing criminal act has appeared in the news, or if your real regret is that someone on this forum might take umbrage at you for providing me with an opportunity to say more disturbing and unpleasant things and that by posting the second of the two I linked you hope also to take a dig at me retrieving any potential loss of grace you might fear having lost?

My message to you was this:

Frank’s lecture on The Idiot takes up the perennial problem of its central hero Prince Myshkin – a would-be Christ figure who worsens everything he touches. That Myshkin fails doesn’t matter because he “is neither actor nor victim but a presence, a kind of moral illumination”. His purpose is not to save or punish but to stir up conscience, to precipitate in those around him a “conflict with their usual selves”. A final chapter on The Brothers Karamazov (tellingly, there is no lecture devoted to Demons) identifies Dostoevsky’s prerequisite for surviving inner conflict: “a faith that needs no support from the empirical and tangible”. Each brother (and the two major heroines as well) must confront the challenge of this necessity for faith, which demands an irrational Kierkegaardian leap. The loving resilience of the youngest brother Alyosha is proof that such a leap can be sensible, pragmatic, even bursting with health. What Dostoevsky, his characters and his contemporary readers share is something more modest than the eternal questions of Good and Evil: it is the “need to live in a meaningful world that does not make a mockery of one’s self-consciousness and the dignity of one’s personality”.

 

[iRONic]

JFC…

 

[Muse]

JFC…

Let's be susink...

 

[Moonbeam]

Let's be susink...

What happened to sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Personal observation:

I notice the media esp right wing are not using this case as an example of crime out of control which is their usual narrative

Cuz it’s a white guy killing white folks.
I am partially kidding but seriously for my whole life brown people calling folks gets far more attention

 

[Mai72]

If this guy is actually the one who commited this awful crime, its going to be interesting to find out why.

Just my observation from his jail picture, and from what I've read about the suspect.

1) He was mostly a loner. Was he an Incel?
2) He had a history of tracking and stalking women.
3) He acted very creepy around women. Constantly stared at them.
4) He was on Reddit asking ex-cons about their "unique traits." Now, I know that he was a criminology major, so it could be reseacrh for a project. I get that.
5) By his picture, he just looks creepy.

There is controversial debate today going on about lonely young caucasian males, and the impact it is having on their mental health. I've seen videos on why the single, lonely, broke and depressed young males of today have become very dangerous. We have a large population of young and angry men who aren't able to connect romantically with a woman. It could be for whatever reason. I dont know if you guys buy into this theory, but it does seem to make sense, and maybe its why we are seeing these type of horrible crimes today. Btw, I do recognize that these type of crimes are very rare. But, is there something to this, or do you think its being over hyped?

This clip from Bill Maher called Men in Crisis. It is Bill Maher, so its (NSFW).

 

[brycejones]

If this guy is actually the one who commited this awful crime, its going to be interesting to find out why.

Just my observation from his jail picture, and from what I've read about the suspect.

1) He was mostly a loner. Was he an Incel?
2) He had a history of tracking and stalking women.
3) He acted very creepy around women. Constantly stared at them.
4) He was on Reddit asking ex-cons about their "unique traits." Now, I know that he was a criminology major, so it could be reseacrh for a project. I get that.
5) By his picture, he just looks creepy.

There is controversial debate today going on about lonely young caucasian males, and the impact it is having on their mental health. I've seen videos on why the single, lonely, broke and depressed young males of today have become very dangerous. We have a large population of young and angry men who aren't able to connect romantically with a woman. It could be for whatever reason. I dont know if you guys buy into this theory, but it does seem to make sense, and maybe its why we are seeing these type of horrible crimes today. Btw, I do recognize that these type of crimes are very rare. But, is there something to this, or do you think its being over hyped?

This clip from Bill Maher called Men in Crisis. It is Bill Maher, so its (NSFW).

There is probably a woman out there for you.

 

[eelw]

Roommate who survived Idaho student killings saw figure dressed in black clothing and a mask, affidavit says | CNN

Idaho officials have publicly released court documents in prosecutors' case against Bryan Kohberger, who faces four counts of first-degree murder and one count of burglary in the killings of four University of Idaho undergraduate students.

www.cnn.com

But what an idiot, he left the leather knife holder behind. And he leaves his phone on when surveilling the house. While great job by law enforcement but odd if they already suspected him 2-3 weeks in, they didn’t manage DNA evidence until he returned home.

 

[Mai72]

Roommate who survived Idaho student killings saw figure dressed in black clothing and a mask, affidavit says | CNN

Idaho officials have publicly released court documents in prosecutors' case against Bryan Kohberger, who faces four counts of first-degree murder and one count of burglary in the killings of four University of Idaho undergraduate students.

www.cnn.com

But what an idiot, he left the leather knife holder behind. And he leaves his phone on when surveilling the house. While great job by law enforcement but odd if they already suspected him 2-3 weeks in, they didn’t manage DNA evidence until he returned home.

Was he an idiot, or was in in a panic because he just murdered 4 people? Think about his mindset after the event. As for the phone pinging his location, I doubt many people know about this. As for the DNA, law enforcement had to make sure 100% that it was Byron before they moved in. Supossedly they were tracking his movements days after the event. A few people are speculating that the traffic stop was done on purpose. To keep tabs on Byron. To see what type of reaction they would get. Facial expressions, etc. And so, as law enforcement builds their case its looking very solid IMO. Its been revealed that he cleaned the interior of his car on multiple occasions while using surgical gloves. Who does that?

Idaho suspect in student murders thoroughly cleaned vehicle, also seen wearing surgical gloves multiple times outside family home, source says | CNN

The man accused of murdering four University of Idaho students in November had thoroughly cleaned the interior and exterior of his car and was also seen wearing surgical gloves multiple times before being apprehended, a law enforcement source tells CNN.

www.cnn.com

 

[CHADBOGA]

Was he an idiot, or was in in a panic because he just murdered 4 people? Think about his mindset after the event. As for the phone pinging his location, I doubt many people know about this. As for the DNA, law enforcement had to make sure 100% that it was Byron before they moved in. Supossedly they were tracking his movements days after the event. A few people are speculating that the traffic stop was done on purpose. To keep tabs on Byron. To see what type of reaction they would get. Facial expressions, etc. And so, as law enforcement builds their case its looking very solid IMO. Its been revealed that he cleaned the interior of his car on multiple occasions while using surgical gloves. Who does that?

Idaho suspect in student murders thoroughly cleaned vehicle, also seen wearing surgical gloves multiple times outside family home, source says | CNN

The man accused of murdering four University of Idaho students in November had thoroughly cleaned the interior and exterior of his car and was also seen wearing surgical gloves multiple times before being apprehended, a law enforcement source tells CNN.

www.cnn.com

If you are not going to get his name right anyway, you should just refer to him as "Bryce".

 

[brycejones]

If you are not going to get his name right anyway, you should just refer to him as "Bryce".

There might be a woman out there for you as well.

 

[CHADBOGA]

There might be a woman out there for you as well.

Yeah, but she wants my credit card details first.

 

[iRONic]

Was he an idiot. As for the phone pinging his location, I doubt many people know about this.

Shitlol.

Every other episode of CSI, Law & Order, and SVU tracks a suspect that way.

He’s a PHD student in Criminology. If that’s not part of the curriculum then the school sucks.

 

[Mai72]

Shitlol.

Every other episode of CSI, Law & Order, and SVU tracks a suspect that way.

He’s a PHD student in Criminology. If that’s not part of the curriculum then the school sucks.

Good point.

 

[hal2kilo]

Shitlol.

Every other episode of CSI, Law & Order, and SVU tracks a suspect that way.

He’s a PHD student in Criminology. If that’s not part of the curriculum then the school sucks.

Just watch about 3 episodes of Snapped.