Everybody was thinking the same a few years ago with already
crappy IGPs.....
Most laptops are renewed because of bad graphics , that are
obsolete long before the Cpus.
Intel's graphics aren't a problem unless you're looking to do gaming or some serious video/graphics work in which case, the Surface doesn't make sense to begin with.
Yet you did buy a load of their (sucking) stock...
I've played in AMD stock for years. That's not news to anybody here.
Most PC laptop buyers aren't interested in them to begin since for them the overriding factor is cost, cost and cost. The rest would be far more likely to find the MBAs a better (subjective) value for money.
Paul S. Otellini said:First half shipments on Ultrabooks were essentially right on our expectation set over six months ago.
Oh well, so much for the OP's post.
I wonder if IDC will come out with a report on how often they put their foot in their mouth.
The other problem I see is that it's trying to bully itself into a space that doesn't exist. It's a "hybrid device" that's supposed to be a tablet and a laptop. Unlike regular tablets which fill a void between a smartphone and a laptop and serve a practical purpose (though you can argue about the practicality aspect here as well considering Ultrabooks and their size), a "hybrid device" tries to be a tablet and a laptop and fill a space in the market that I don't see really existing.
The W700 doesn't have the optional keyboard dock of the W510, likely because it would be too top heavy.
Read more at http://www.anandtech.com/show/5968/acers-iconia-w700-tablet-windows-8#RDh4HxPKefQ87QtR.99
The W700 is admittedly thicker than I'd like. It's comfortable to hold but you can't one-hand it for long and it's best used when propped up against something like your leg or the edge of a table. Haswell should help thin things out - and 14nm Broadwell will put the issue to rest entirely.
Read more at http://www.anandtech.com/show/5968/acers-iconia-w700-tablet-windows-8#VOyjuAJSkThqTcyw.99
intel's graphics suck in all areas from drivers to software to performance and image quality. Last in all categories, to me that's a serious problem, just like it was for every other generation in 30 years. And what if an unsuspecting consumer picks up one of these and hooks it up to their 1080p TV expecting some decent gaming. I know there are some here who would say, 'who cares about the consumers as long as intel is making a nice profit'.
The throttling isn't necessarily due to the heat issues, though it can be but that's based on the manufacturer's HSF. The throttling is due to the TDP constraints the chip is under. If you're paying for $300 for a chip you'd expect that chip to provide $300 worth of performance, otherwise why not opt to buy an i3 or an i5? The Turbos in the 35W chips and the 17W ULVs (and LVs) act differently. The Turbo in a 35W chip can give you a consistent boost in clock speeds whereas the 17W ULVs will give you sporadic performance and persistent throttling. This has to do with the chip being too fat to fit into the 17W TDP.
Seriously??? Who is going to buy an ultra book and expect to do 1080p gaming on it?? That is not what it is intended for. My problems with an ultrabook are not the intel graphics, but the fact that you can get a much cheaper laptop that will perform all the same functions, (except in a larger, heavier package) for a lot less money.
The hardware just doesn't suit the form factor. And because of the thin nature you develop persistent problems that plague almost every manufacturer -
- poor keyboard layout and feedback due to how shallow the keys have to be.
- battery life, even while sporting a 17W TDP chip, isn't impressive due to the size limitation on the battery. Considering most processors at 35W mostly idle and they have larger batteries as well, you actually get better battery life with modern notebooks than you do with ultrabooks.
- Though the i5s and i7s have turbo boost, they can't keep it up for more than a fraction of a second due to TDP constraints and constantly throttle.
- the throttling issue doesn't just plague the CPU end but also the IGP, causing some severe stuttering in games (if you can even manage to play them at acceptable frame rates).
- There are no weight restrictions on ultrabooks. They stretch from 2lbs to 5lbs. I'm not sure how a 5lb "Ultrabook" is more portable than a regular laptop.
- Plain ol' laptops can reach the same weight as ultrabooks and they're much cheaper.
- Soldering in of RAM and gluing in of batteries... What the hell?
- The jet engine fan. The slim design coupled with a slim intake/exhaust means that most ultrabooks have fans that are more audible than your regular laptop.
- Price, and this is the worst of the bunch. Right now, Intel and the manufacturers are selling ultrabooks as fashion accessories rather than as an ultraportable PC. If somebody wants to buy a fashion accessory they'd be buying Apple anyway. This needs to change and fast. Intel charges too much for the processors and Ultrabook designers, even at the current prices, are operating at sub 7% margins. As a result, Intel isn't selling anywhere near as many as they thought they would and the manufacturers aren't making any money off of them due to poor sales and low margins.
Ultrabooks need a serious makeover.
If Ultrabooks are being tied to win8 then then it might be time to sell off your Intel stock. Touch-based on a non-touched based device...
There are currently 140 Ivy Bridge Ultrabook designs in the "pipeline", 40 of them being touch enabled and 12 being convertible designs.
Many will and do. Of course consumers are going to plug their device into their TV, they do it all the time. The big problem is that the vast majority won't know that it isn't able to with any degree of satisfaction. For the Ultrathin form factor, Trinity offers consumers a much more enjoyable experience; best battery life, best gaming hands down, and enough computational power in that form factor than anyone would need. Along with GPU acclerated applications, there's plenty of horsepower with outstanding battery life. intel's gpu's are anemic for anything but drawing jagged lines on the screen.
Maximizing their revenue is their job. That's why they are a for-profit company.
How are they shoving it down your throat?I don't mind Intel making gazillions i mean, that's what they are supposed to do...
I do mind them trying to shove down our throats a "new super hyper magnificient thin ultra fast Macbook AirClone" to sell their CPU at double their value.
I didn't recall "not touch-based" being part of the definition of an Ultrabook.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-q22012-ultrabook-ivy-bridge,16336.html
Ive got a MacBook Air (my first ultra book) and I can tell you with absolute confidance, I will never buy another laptop that isn't an ultra-book. The combination of power, battery live and portability is worth their asking price IMO.
Oh well, so much for the OP's post.
I wonder if IDC will come out with a report on how often they put their foot in their mouth.
Link to your source please?
Dear Intel,
Windows 8 will flop.
Sincerely,
Pretty much everyone.
Overall , ultrabooks are just a try to sell at hefty prices products that
are cheaper to produce but still with little offerings , as are the
tablets that sell for prices with no relation with real costs , hence
intel s trying to create such an irrationnaly overvalued product.
Wait a few months , the bubble will burst , as either ultrabooks
get way cheaper or the concept will collapse due to consumers
unwilling to pay more than about 500$...
I didn't recall "must be touch-based" to be part of the definition of an Ultrabook.
Seriously, I think all of the Ultrabooks released so far have been the more conservative designs. It looks like Intel is trying to shake up things by encouraging more tablet/laptop hybridization and different form factors. They're getting the OEMs to try a bunch of things and seeing what will pan out.
Also, http://techreport.com/discussions.x/23275 ! Apparently touch-based Ultrabooks are considered news to more than just you. But there is a definite expectation among the new generation that all compute devices are touch-enabled.