IDC: Tablets Outselling Desktops and Notebooks Put Together in the UK

[blackened23]

Not to be rude to anyone but all those folks who keep deluding themselves with "desktop will never die" (true for the 1-2% perhaps), "tablets augment desktop PCs", you guys are going to be the grandpas that get left behind, wondering what happened 10 years from now. The same guys who said snail mail will never die, cell phones will never catch on, who needs the internet, etc.

You can either reminisce about the "good old days" and get left behind or hop on the train to the modern world - Computing has evolved, for better or worse. The mass market can do most of their computing tasks on tablets or ultra portable devices, and certainly one can make an argument about tablets evolving to convertibles. I see the tablet evolving as the mass consumer product of choice, I don't see consumers reverting to old habits of buying desktop PCs. The anecdotal evidence of desktop sales is out there for anyone to view, unless you want to wear blinders and ignore it.

That isn't to say that desktop is irrelevant as of now. As a desktop guy myself, i'll state that I think it is no longer a product for the mass market, but it definitely has many years of life for extreme enthusiasts and tech nerds. The point is, the average joe who walks into best buy doesn't need a massive desktop PC that can do a gabillion GFlops. They can do all of their tasks (yes including productivity, believe it or not) on a tablet or macbook and that is what they are far more likely to buy.

 

[Sequences123]

"desktop will never die" (true for the 1-2% perhaps),

There's more to desktop market than the consumers - I think you're leaving out the enterprise level workstations that will take a LONG time to "die". There is always a place for high performance workstations and until your mobile devices can match the performance required by the software, you won't see the death of "desktops".

You can either reminisce about the "good old days" and get left behind or hop on the train to the modern world - Computing has evolved

No, computing has not evolved. Smaller processors have become better, to the point where it can do most of the tasks a desktop 10 years ago could do. The every day programs - typing word documents, texting friends, etc - have not changed in the last 10 years or so.

 

[beginner99]

Not to be rude to anyone but all those folks who keep deluding themselves with "desktop will never die" (true for the 1-2% perhaps), "tablets augment desktop PCs", you guys are going to be the grandpas that get left behind, wondering what happened 10 years from now. The same guys who said snail mail will never die, cell phones will never catch on, who needs the internet, etc.

AFAIK snail mail isn't dead and will not in a long time because for official documents it is still the main thing people use...at least where I live.

if you can develop software on a tablet at the same rate as on a desktop, then I believe you but we both know thats not possible. And even the average users probably types about 2-3 times faster with a keyboard than on a touchscreen.

What you can do with your tablet you can do with your smartphone.

What I can see a having a future are "surface pro like" devices with an detachable keyboard, a non-crappy cpu and the digitizer. Current tablets are just an additional thing to have not a replacement.

 

[blackened23]

Keep telling yourself that. You can already do most productivity related tasks on tablets or portables, believe it or not - and you don't need MS office. Anyone tied to MS office needs to get that thought out of their head, because there are many alternatives that work very well. And if there's something that a portable can't do, like I said - this form factor will evolve, consumers won't revert to purchasing desktop PCs. Will there be the 1-2% that will? Will there be gamers that buy desktop parts? Sure. But, you're absolutely kidding yourself if you think everyone needs a desktop PC. Here's the problem: you're too old school and stubborn in your views, you think that tablets absolutely cannot do "X" task and that it needs a desktop. Believe it or not, you don't need a desktop to do something similar to what is found in MS office. If there's something a tablet can't do, and sure that is the case - the tablets and portables will slowly evolve over time to become more suitable. What won't happen is consumer preference switching back to desktop PC. I can guarantee that, there's just too much anecdotal sales evidence of desktop PCs selling extremely poorly. You are the 1%, you aren't the average consumer. Average consumer buying preferences won't shift back to the desktop PC, ever. The 1% will still buy them, sure.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I think you fail to see the point blackened23. The tablet is simply too slow to use for anything productivity related. Its one of the same reason why Windows 8 flopped so badly. It adds time, time is money. If we replaced the office with tablets, we would need to hire 10x more people to get the same work done.

The tablet will never be anything but an accessory. The question is if there will be any space left for it, between ultrabooks and smartphones/phablets.

 

[HeXen]

I much prefer my Ipad to a laptop, rarely do I find it comfortable to have one sitting on my lap trying to type. Though I don't think desktops will actually die, I do think desktops will evolve however from being what they are now to being some type of central hub to everywhere in the house that goes mostly unseen and gamers will play on a variety of TV's or monitors elsewhere in the home rather than to sit at a desk with a single monitor.

I think you fail to see the point blackened23. The tablet is simply too slow to use for anything productivity related. Its one of the same reason why Windows 8 flopped so badly. It adds time, time is money. If we replaced the office with tablets, we would need to hire 10x more people to get the same work done.

The tablet will never be anything but an accessory. The question is if there will be any space left for it, between ultrabooks and smartphones/phablets.

I use an app called Splashtop where I can use my Ipad to remotely use all my computers, even play it's games using gestures and hotspots. Offices could also use similar technology harnessing the power from the servers or dekstops. So technically you can be productive using a tablet in either home or office, just not with it's own power.
It's dead simple to use, no noticeable lag from my gaming router so I'm sure anyplace with a good enough wifi could harness the power of their other stuff very well and they make keyboards and mice for tablets so it's not like there really is an excuse. Now obviously going outside of the area to actually be productive while mobile won't work and laptops will be the answer for that.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I much prefer my Ipad to a laptop, rarely do I find it comfortable to have one sitting on my lap trying to type. Though I don't think desktops will actually die, I do think desktops will evolve however from being what they are now to being some type of central hub to everywhere in the house that goes mostly unseen and gamers will play on a variety of TV's or monitors elsewhere in the home rather than to sit at a desk with a single monitor.



I use an app called Splashtop where I can use my Ipad to remotely use all my computers, even play it's games using gestures and hotspots. Offices could also use similar technology harnessing the power from the servers or dekstops. So technically you can be productive using a tablet in either home or office, just not with it's own power.
It's dead simple to use, no noticeable lag from my gaming router so I'm sure anyplace with a good enough wifi could harness the power of their other stuff very well and they make keyboards and mice for tablets so it's not like there really is an excuse. Now obviously going outside of the area to actually be productive while mobile won't work and laptops will be the answer for that.

A tablet with mouse and keyboard is...a laptop.

 

[SunnyD]

I don't see why this is news. Laptops, desktops and netbooks hit critical mass years ago. Tablets are "new" tech, so they have plenty of room for sales growth. Simple demand economics at work.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Keep telling yourself that. You can already do most productivity related tasks on tablets or portables, believe it or not - and you don't need MS office. Anyone tied to MS office needs to get that thought out of their head, because there are many alternatives that work very well. And if there's something that a portable can't do, like I said - this form factor will evolve, consumers won't revert to purchasing desktop PCs. Will there be the 1-2% that will? Will there be gamers that buy desktop parts? Sure. But, you're absolutely kidding yourself if you think everyone needs a desktop PC. Here's the problem: you're too old school and stubborn in your views, you think that tablets absolutely cannot do "X" task and that it needs a desktop. Believe it or not, you don't need a desktop to do something similar to what is found in MS office. If there's something a tablet can't do, and sure that is the case - the tablets and portables will slowly evolve over time to become more suitable. What won't happen is consumer preference switching back to desktop PC. I can guarantee that, there's just too much anecdotal sales evidence of desktop PCs selling extremely poorly. You are the 1%, you aren't the average consumer. Average consumer buying preferences won't shift back to the desktop PC, ever. The 1% will still buy them, sure.

You are looking at only part of the equation. Yes, in the consumer space, tablets/smartphones are taking over a lot of the market share. Personally, I think this is a dumbing down, but it is what it is and is undeniably the trend.

However there is another large market segment (enterprise, server, scientific, educational) in which the PC is still essential. I wont predict 10 years from now, but definitely in the next few years I cant see a tablet being an efficient solution for these uses.

I will give you my personal experience. I work in the medical research field. There are a large number of labs in our building. They all use PCs, either laptops or desktops to store large amounts of data, analyze it for significance, and prepare manuscripts and presentations. None of them, not one, has replaced their PC with a tablet. The equipment in the lab where I do my analysis is controlled by PCs, some still running Win XP. Our lab is doing a double blind controlled study of a supplement with over 1000 subjects. We use Access, Excel, and Encore to manage and organize the data. The director would throw us out on our ear if we proposed eliminating our PCs with a tablet at twice the expense and a fraction of the productivity. The problem from a PC sales point of view is that the 2 generation old PCs we have are adequate and do not need to be replaced.

 

[Lonyo]

A tablet with mouse and keyboard is...a laptop.

Only sometimes.
If it's detachable, such as the Samsung Ativ Pro, is it a laptop or a tablet? Depends on what mode it's in.

Which is also why the whole discussion is pointless. It's likely that we will have hybrid devices in the future, probably hybrid laptop/tablets, and hybrid phone/tablets, as our two "main" devices, rather than a phone, tablet, laptop.

The reason I say two devices is because tablets are not quite portable enough, and not quite powerful enough, and we are already having crossover devices on both ends.

Which means we come back to the real question. What is a tablet? Is a 6" phone a tablet? Is a 12" convertible laptop a tablet?
Tablets won't kill off laptops, they will probably if anything die as we currently know them because their niche will cease to exist, as laptop/tablets and phone/tablets become more versatile with various new technologies such as flexible displays (meaning your phablet can be small or large) and performance/efficiency improvements (meaning your laptop/tablet can become more portable in tablet mode).

Then you have your home computer server/system which is a headless server which serves up to your phablet, laptop/tablet, TV, fridge etc, and maybe you have a desktop if you need one for power user stuff, if your home system isn't quite right for gaming, or you want another machine.

The premise of tablets killing things off is stupid when what's really going to happen is convergence and integration, where the lines between A B and C are blurred.

Also people are talking about marketshare.
Yes, tablets are taking marketshare as a percentage, but the overall market is growing. PC sales have declined, but they are still strong. Instead of 3million PCs and 0 tablets, you have say 2.5 million PCs and 2.5 million tablets.
Your market has gone from 3 million to 5 million, not 3 million PCs to 3 million tablets and zero PCs, or 1.5m of each, which is why marketshare is pointless, because tablets are effectively a new market... one which isn't killing off the old market that fast, because people are just getting MORE. Tablets are currently co-existing with PCs, so why talk about death at all? Remember when laptops overtook desktops? Did desktops disappear? No, we have many people with a desktop AND a laptop, some even with a tablet as well. Sure, desktops declined somewhat, but they aren't dead, the market EXPANDED.

 

[Sequences123]

A tablet with mouse and keyboard is...a laptop.

Imitation is the best form of flattery.

 

[2is]

A tablet with mouse and keyboard is...a laptop.

Not really. There's a lot I can't do on my ipad even if I had a mouse and keyboard for it.

 

[blackened23]

I think you fail to see the point blackened23. The tablet is simply too slow to use for anything productivity related. Its one of the same reason why Windows 8 flopped so badly. It adds time, time is money. If we replaced the office with tablets, we would need to hire 10x more people to get the same work done.

The tablet will never be anything but an accessory. The question is if there will be any space left for it, between ultrabooks and smartphones/phablets.

This isn't quite true. Performance and software aren't insurmountable problems, already we're seeing convertible devices that bring very good performance to a tablet form factor - such as the Surface Pro mentioned earlier in the thread.

Sure, there are some applications which are better suited to desktop -- yet at the same time, some folks have pre-conceived old-school notions of how to do productivity related tasks. That's precisely what I think when I see anyone mention MS office, because you really don't need MS office to do 90% of the tasks they allow - you can do all of that in Android and iOS without the exorbitant costs associated with Office. Also, I've seen quite a few interesting applications in the work place with tablets, tasks which were unfathomable a few years ago. My entire point here, is that tablets and convertibles will evolve to the task. What won't happen, is consumer preferences suddenly dictating that desktops be purchased in droves again.

As for what the future holds - again - I really think tablets will retain their place and convertibles will become increasingly popular for students and those who want a little more. The form factor will evolve to the occasion, and like I mentioned earlier, software and performance issues aren't unsolvable problems.

 

[beginner99]

Keep telling yourself that. You can already do most productivity related tasks on tablets or portables, believe it or not - and you don't need MS office. Anyone tied to MS office needs to get that thought out of their head, because there are many alternatives that work very well. And if there's something that a portable can't do, like I said - this form factor will evolve, consumers won't revert to purchasing desktop PCs. Will there be the 1-2% that will? Will there be gamers that buy desktop parts? Sure. But, you're absolutely kidding yourself if you think everyone needs a desktop PC. Here's the problem: you're too old school and stubborn in your views, you think that tablets absolutely cannot do "X" task and that it needs a desktop. Believe it or not, you don't need a desktop to do something similar to what is found in MS office. If there's something a tablet can't do, and sure that is the case - the tablets and portables will slowly evolve over time to become more suitable. What won't happen is consumer preference switching back to desktop PC. I can guarantee that, there's just too much anecdotal sales evidence of desktop PCs selling extremely poorly. You are the 1%, you aren't the average consumer. Average consumer buying preferences won't shift back to the desktop PC, ever. The 1% will still buy them, sure.

I'm not talking about office but real work. Try comparing 3 different documents on an iPad compared to a setup with 3 displays and so fort. And now don't come with docking stations because as was said a tablet with a keyboard, mouse and multiple monitors is not a tablet anymore...

I think you fail to see the point blackened23. The tablet is simply too slow to use for anything productivity related. Its one of the same reason why Windows 8 flopped so badly. It adds time, time is money. If we replaced the office with tablets, we would need to hire 10x more people to get the same work done.

The tablet will never be anything but an accessory. The question is if there will be any space left for it, between ultrabooks and smartphones/phablets.

exactly this.

 

[blackened23]

I'm not talking about office but real work. Try comparing 3 different documents on an iPad compared to a setup with 3 displays and so fort. And now don't come with docking stations because as was said a tablet with a keyboard, mouse and multiple monitors is not a tablet anymore...

Nice way to be intentionally vague there. "Real work". What is real work. What is your real work, what does someone else consider real work? What does a student consider "real work"? "Real work" is a completely vague and meaningless term in the grand scheme of things, and like I said some tasks are better suited for desktop now. But convertibles and tablets will rise to the occasion, and if you really want a monitor - what's stopping you from hooking a surface pro up to a WQHD display? Nothing. I won't bore you with details but plenty of "real work" can be done on convertibles and tablets already.

 

[frozentundra123456]

This isn't quite true. Performance and software aren't insurmountable problems, already we're seeing convertible devices that bring very good performance to a tablet form factor - such as the Surface Pro mentioned earlier in the thread.

Sure, there are some applications which are better suited to desktop -- yet at the same time, some folks have pre-conceived old-school notions of how to do productivity related tasks. That's precisely what I think when I see anyone mention MS office, because you really don't need MS office to do 90% of the tasks they allow - you can do all of that in Android and iOS without the exorbitant costs associated with Office. Also, I've seen quite a few interesting applications in the work place with tablets, tasks which were unfathomable a few years ago. My entire point here, is that tablets and convertibles will evolve to the task. What won't happen, is consumer preferences suddenly dictating that desktops be purchased in droves again.

As for what the future holds - again - I really think tablets will retain their place and convertibles will become increasingly popular for students and those who want a little more. The form factor will evolve to the occasion, and like I mentioned earlier, software and performance issues aren't unsolvable problems.

See my post above. In addition to that, I dont see any lab that is converting to open source office software. You seem to just have a preconceived idea of what is best for everyone based on you own perceptions. Do you actually think we would risk thousands of hours of work, literally, in our study by converting our databases to some open source software?

 

[frozentundra123456]

Nice way to be intentionally vague there. "Real work". What is real work. What is your real work, what does someone else consider real work? What does a student consider "real work"? "Real work" is a completely vague and meaningless term in the grand scheme of things, and like I said some tasks are better suited for desktop now. But convertibles and tablets will rise to the occasion, and if you really want a monitor - what's stopping you from hooking a surface pro up to a WQHD display? Nothing. I won't bore you with details but plenty of "real work" can be done on convertibles and tablets already.

Yes, at twice the cost and also most of the tablet docks are far less efficient to use than a real laptop or desktop with a real keyboard.

And concerning "real work". Is it posting on facebook, surfing the net, watching youtube, netflix, playing casual games, the things a tablet is best at?? I dont think so.

Is real work tabulating thousands of data points into spreadsheets, analyzing the data and preparing presentations of said data in verbal or written presentations? I challenge you to tell any of our graduate students that have years of their life depending on that data that it isnt real work.

You are claiming that those of us who are convinced of the inefficiencies of tablets that we are being old fashioned and inflexible, but honestly your ideas are just as strongly inflexible in the opposite direction.

 

[R0H1T]

A tablet with mouse and keyboard is...a laptop.

Conversely a laptop with a touchscreen is a convertible tablet & last I checked nearly five million touch enabled notebooks were sold last quarter ~
http://news.softpedia.com/news/4-57...books-Sold-From-January-to-March-354090.shtml

 

[VirtualLarry]

Tablets probably won't go away anytime soon, but neither will desktops. Sure, they may evolve in form-factors to something smaller, like Intel's NUC, but they will still be fundamentally desktops, designed to interface with a keyboard, mouse, and large screen. Those things aren't going away anytime soon, unless humans themselves evolve rapidly as well.

 

[R0H1T]

My theory on this is that roughly the same percentage of people that "needed" a desktop back in the day, the 1 out of 30-40 folks like yourself who was teaching themselves programming and so on, is roughly the same percentage of folks that need a desktop computer now.

In other words the base level of demand has always been there, then and now, and will be going forward.

What happened in the meantime was a bubble in the demand for desktops which was solely fueled by everyone else who only really wanted a computer for the internet connectivity stuff - email, google, youtube, pic sharing, IM.

All that stuff was the killer app for the desktop market but only because the desktop market existed and had products to sell at the time. Had the mobility offered by today's smartphones and tablet form factors been available 20yrs ago then the entire desktop market revolution would have been sidestepped in my opinion.

In this hypothetical timeline, workstations for the professional would still have happened, and laptops for the professional still would have happened, but the TAM and market volumes would be 1/10th their current volumes.

At least that is how I see it when I look at my family versus myself. As soon as smartphones, tablets (iPads), and the e-readers like Kindle came along, every single one of my family members jumped ship and hasn't looked back.

I used to buy them all desktop upgrades and new builds, every other year. Then it became all the rage to buy laptops instead, not a desktop among them. Now I haven't bought a laptop for a family member in years. Since 2010 or so. But they all have (and really do use) all these other tablet and smartphone form factors.

And here I am, still using desktops and laptops, the 1 in 30, and probably won't ever give it up.

That'd be a world filled with darkness, where the likes of Apple, MS, Samsung, Google ruled the world with an iron fist & we'd have seen a conroe in 2013, scary thoughts indeed :hmm:

 

[pablo87]

After 6 months, my nexus 7 is starting to annoy me.

- size is too small for the onscreen keyboard. Fix would be an 8" screen and OS improvements - iPad is better, no question.
- productivity with a physical keyboard would be >>>. Whenever I have a lengthy anything to type, I use the notebook.
- lack of flash support is annoying - so many sites don't fully support android. My son claims this will get fixed with html5.
- battery life is poor compared to iPad.

For the $199 investment, it was a no brainer to try out and play around with. But the next purchase will not be - it'll be a new ballgame including reviewing options from AMD, Intel and Microsoft.

In a digital view of the world, notebook and tablet are going to be the same market, distinct from desktop and smartphones (of course, the real world is analog and such distinctions are strictly adhered to only at marketers' peril).

Price is a big factor IMO. If you design an x86 "notebook" from scratch and use say a 10" tablet as a base, x86 processors become more power efficient and Microsoft goes back to DOS OS pricing circa 1990 and drastically improves the OS (OK, those last 2 parts about Microsoft are so unlikely to happen...), and get the price to the $199-299 range, then "PC" would start growing again because customers would look forward to upgrading their old devices and replacing their toys.

 

[podspi]

I think that as more formfactors proliferate, the market share of each individual formfactor will fall. Is anybody really surprised at this? I don't think anybody is claiming you should be doing data analysis (or video encoding, or serious professional photo editing) on a tablet. I think many people are realizing that for what they do (casual emails from the couch, Facebook, Twitter) a device like a smartphone or tablet is a better fit than a desktop or even a laptop.

Those of you arguing that tablets are useless for 'real work' (adjust definition to taste) or are arguing that desktops/laptops are archaic are missing the point. It used to be all we had were desktops, and so everybody bought desktops. As time goes on more formfactors are becoming possible, leading people to substitute away from traditional computing platforms.

I know multiple people who go to work, do their 'real work' on a desktop or laptop, then come home and exclusively use an iPad or smartphone.

 

[Magic Carpet]

Yes, at twice the cost and also most of the tablet docks are far less efficient to use than a real laptop or desktop with a real keyboard.

And concerning "real work". Is it posting on facebook, surfing the net, watching youtube, netflix, playing casual games, the things a tablet is best at?? I dont think so.

Is real work tabulating thousands of data points into spreadsheets, analyzing the data and preparing presentations of said data in verbal or written presentations? I challenge you to tell any of our graduate students that have years of their life depending on that data that it isnt real work.

Good point. Personally, I don't care what to use, as long as I can get the job done. It can be a matter of convenience or some other factor. To each their own, I imagine. People around me, however, have been ditching desktops for modern tablets / convertibles and there is nothing I can do about it. It's very trendy. Personally, if I had to choose one device, I would stick to desktop, otherwise it is nice to have options.

Speaking of Surface Pro, like I said, it's very underpowered being x86, bulky and has little battery life. I benched it against a Pentium G2020, and it's about as powerful, even though, being an i5 model. So yeah, it needs to be more powerful and need to come without a fan (i.e. slimmer).

They have given ARM a head start for sure, thanks to Otenelli and his profit margin obsession. I do not think the high growth rate for tablets is over yet (it will be one day, but not this year), since the devices are still improving rather dramatically with each generation unlike the already refined PC.

Also tablets being a battery-powered mobie device might not have the long life of a desktop PC, so people will replace them in shorter cycles as compared to the conventional desktop.

Intel can still 'win' this. If they want similar domination in tablets as they have in desktop PC, they have the ability. As for the motivation.....let's see what the new CEO does and then judge them by their actions.

You bet

Also, Paul Otellini, Intel's ex-CEO on iPhone:

We ended up not winning it or passing on it, depending on how you want to view it. And the world would have been a lot different if we'd done it. The thing you have to remember is that this was before the iPhone was introduced and no one knew what the iPhone would do...At the end of the day, there was a chip that they were interested in that they wanted to pay a certain price for and not a nickel more and that price was below our forecasted cost. I couldn't see it. It wasn't one of these things you can make up on volume. And in hindsight, the forecasted cost was wrong and the volume was 100x what anyone thought.

Source.

Paul did a good job, though.

Source.

 

[blackened23]

presentations? I challenge you to tell any of our graduate students that have years of their life depending on that data that it isnt real work.

You are claiming that those of us who are convinced of the inefficiencies of tablets that we are being old fashioned and inflexible, but honestly your ideas are just as strongly inflexible in the opposite direction.

I've mentioned this several times, but the first thing I would point out is that tablet is merely a form factor - performance or efficiency is not an insurmountable problem, as was stated earlier. Already we're seeing convertible devices (which double as "tablets") such as the Surface Pro which are using the latest ULV processors from intel. Now sure I can agree that performance of the desktop is better, but as I said.....tablet is merely a form factor and what goes inside is constantly evolving, improving, and will change perceptions. Here's the big issue with your viewpoint: you seem to have pigeonholed all "tablets" into low performance SOC devices which admittedly may not be the best for some types of work. I submit that 1) the performance will increase exponentially over time, as intel is completely and 100% focused on mobile efficiency and 2) your perceptions of the "tablet" form factor is a bit off.

Again, let's go back to the Surface Pro. Haswell will improve the battery life of this device by more than double - and I challenge you to find work that this "tablet" cannot do. Sure, are some desktops more powerful? Yes. That doesn't mean that a tablet or convertible cannot rise to the occassion, you can easily hook these devices up to dedicated displays if you work so demands it. Furthermore, there are many interesting applications of "tablets" that are being used in work places, today, in ways which were thought unfathomable a few years ago. Medical records are updated on ipads. Tablets are used to record patient data. I could go on here - these are all tasks that previously were entered into a desktop. There are courier services which did data entry at end of day on desktop terminals which have switched these tasks to be done on the fly via tablets. I could go on and on with this. Is this real work?

Now with all this said, are there some things that desktops do better? Yes. I've said this many times. But AGAIN: please don't pigeonhole "tablet" into a low performance SOC device. The performance is increasing exponentially, I could name a dozen very powerful convertibles right now which can certainly do "real work". I won't even go into how meaningless that term is, but you can certainly get a lot of productivity tasks done on portable devices. Just keep in mind that I acknowledge that desktop is better suited to some tasks, I never stated that "tablets" were an all-encompassing replacement. Not yet. But "tablets" are evolving faster than you may think, in ways that you never would have thought of.

 

[pablo87]

Otellini taking one for the company here. Classy.