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Rayden

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: chuckywang
He ain't gonna get in grad school anywhere if his essays are as pompous as that.

What makes you say that? Universities run on pomp as far as I can tell. It just goes unsaid (usually).

I had a friend in high school who had amazing grades + 1600 SAT + 36 ACT + very good writing skills that got rejected from MIT, Harvard, and Yale. He went to Stanford.

He was rejected because he was pompous? I don't get it.

BTW, MIT, Harvard and Yale look at more than just SAT scores and grades. In fact, I believe MIT has an interview process.

Yes, he thought he was smarter than many many people (he is, but that's not the point). He got rejected at other schools too (I can't remember which), but I remember that I was shocked that he got rejected from so many. I have no idea why he got rejected.

Well pomp is probably not good prior to becoming an undergrad. Once you are admitted there isn't much they can do about your pomp. I don't think the university wants you to really acquire pomp until you are a full tenured professor. Then you can sit back with your pipe and jacket with elbow pads as you ponder how many students you plan to flunk that semester. :laugh:

I don't know what it is about my school. I haven't taken too many higher level classes (about 5), but I've yet to encounter a really pompous professor. I go to an urban state school -- but mainly commuters attend -- and I've yet to really encounter someone that is pompous. That could be because I mainly take liberal arts classes -- or not -- but most of the professors here are pretty damn genuine and understanding. The closest to being pompous is my current adjunct Forensics professor. Don't disagree with her viewpoint on crime or she will ream you for it. I've actually found many CJ and CJ related professors are like that to an extent. If you aren't always 100% on the side of the current legal structure and the police, then you'd damn well better be in your essays and discussions.

I've found that the older a professor is that the less likely they are to bash you over the head with for disagreeing. In fact, many will agree with you, or say it is a subject worth discussing. A lot of the younger professors just want to lecture you and espouse ideals, but they won't allow for disagreement or someone challenging the reality of their opinion. Case-in-point: I pointed out how ineffective current drug laws and rehabilitative methods are at preventing recidivism. We were discussing community standards in policing, and how many places are now "decriminalizing" or at least starting to ignore marijuana possession and usage of small amounts. The professor was vehemently against any decriminalization. The argument was that if the are in jail they can't be committing their crimes against property in society. While true, it totally ignores the idea of the CJ system providing justice and solutions instead of just punishment. I'm very much libertarian in some of my ideas, and I don't think locking someone up for 10 years for simple possesion (after a history of such possession) will actually solve any problems. It just shifts the burden to the next time they are out of jail, or it cost taxpayer resources and money to jail someone as a temporary solution. Providing classes, education, and other rehabilitative means lowers the rate of re-offense, and at much less cost to the taxpayer. Not only that, but society has a duty to coax other members back into being produtive. Otherwise they are simply a leech when they could be re-introduced and be productive.

I hate to rant, but this thread had me thinking a lot about this semester. There's a lot of current thought that policing should be much tougher and throw more people into jail rather than solve problems and enforce normal societal controls. I really hate this -- it seems we are moving into a new area of policing that is leading back to the "no questions asked and no discretion is allowed" period of the Reform Era. A lot of people think that the problem of crime is solved by being tough, inflexible, and vindictive toward offenders. I guess it is easy to fall back onto that instead of actually taking the extra effort to provide permanent solutions. A lot of people think NYC's tough crackdown on petty crimes was so effective and beautiful that is should be implemented everywhere (they basically followed the model of a broken window theory and then some). I think it was a pretty sorry way of trampling on personal rights and the disorder that society tolerates. Being fascist -- or at least appearing to be -- doesn't actually solve or prevent crime. It just takes a lot of people off the streets or makes them move elsewhere.

Sorry for the rant... I realize a I am TOTALLY off topic.

I had a math professor who had people write problems on the board. Someone made a simple spelling error and he lectured us for five minutes on how we are required to be grammatically correct and he would take points off for spelling mistakes in the future. I hated the class. This was Probability and Statistics at an engineering institution.
 

ColdFusion718

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Perhaps he is gifted in math, but I doubt he has high calibre communication skills. People who are great technically yet cannot relate to people always end up being some guy's pawn--they do all the dirty work.

 

dquan97

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I wonder if he has quotes from other people besides instructors or TAs...maybe from friends or teammates
 

Genx87

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All this and the guy probably never got to enjoy the finer things of college, like girls.

 

Genx87

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There are probably a few hundred students who get a 1600 on their SAT. I don't know how many score 1600 and a 36, but that friend of mine has to be one of less than ten in the country. BTW, his birthday was today, so wish him a happy birthday.

We had two of them in my senior class in highschool. afaik the only time that has ever happened.

And we were just a public school.
 

Babbles

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That's cool and all that he seems to be allegedly "smart" but he sure as hell comes off as a first rate tool. I am of the opinion that being a genius doesn't do an ounce of good if you are unable to communicate yourself and otherwise be respected.
 

Syringer

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Quotes to me:

"You're the best." - Jessica Alba

"Your penis is sooo huge." - Jennifer Aniston

"I want you so bad right now" - other hot girl
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: swaq
All his classes are 100 level or lower... That's not super impressive, he's just got a huge ego.

Dumbass at Cal undergraduate class are all under 200.

i think he's referring to the fact that they are all introductory/lower division classes (even ee100), and it would be much harder on the upper-divs
 

DVK916

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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: swaq
All his classes are 100 level or lower... That's not super impressive, he's just got a huge ego.

Dumbass at Cal undergraduate class are all under 200.

i think he's referring to the fact that they are all introductory/lower division classes (even ee100), and it would be much harder on the upper-divs


No this isn't true. Look at the class, many are upper division courses. ChemE 150AB are upper division, and so are a few others on that list.
 

ed21x

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: swaq
All his classes are 100 level or lower... That's not super impressive, he's just got a huge ego.

Dumbass at Cal undergraduate class are all under 200.

i think he's referring to the fact that they are all introductory/lower division classes (even ee100), and it would be much harder on the upper-divs


No this isn't true. Look at the class, many are upper division courses. ChemE 150AB are upper division, and so are a few others on that list.

oh, but as you can see, most definitely aren't, as he hasn't really completed his upp-divs yet (chem 112 is only 3rd semester chem, MSE104 is expected within the first two years). and by upper division, I mean last two years of undergrad, where stuff actually becomes major specific rather than general engineering.
 
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Yes, but can he get laid? I doubt it.

I'll take good pvssy over "glowing remarks and A+'s" any day of the week.
 

Koing

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
what a tool. I don't care how smart the kid is, he's a douche and a poor human being for making that list.

Why? He's basking in what he accomplished. How many threads are there on AT that say "look at my new car" or "I just got a new job paying X" or "look at the house I just bought." Just because the guy has achieved much more in those areas than us doesn't mean he can't pat himself on the back. It may come natural to him or he may really bust his ass. I see no reason to denigrate him for being proud. He didn't exactly say he was better than anyone or that he's the sh!t. He just posted what others said and implied he was proud. I'd be proud too!

Indeed man.

He will probably be successful in whatever he does. You need to believe in yourself and think your the sh!t, if not your not going to sell or be as successful imo. Why be too humble? Just don't be such an arrogant f0ck all the time. I think if your good give yourself a little pat on the back.

I'm willing to bet he worked dam hard or just takes on EVERYTHING very easily.

I knew a guy at Uni he worked his ass off. Ranked at least top 5 of the whole Uni in Maths. Scored amazing % in everything. He was humble as f0ck though. Scored himself an amazing job about 2x the avg graduate start!

Koing
 

JDrake

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Yes, but can he get laid? I doubt it.

I'll take good pvssy over "glowing remarks and A+'s" any day of the week.
Maybe after a good job and a ferrari he'll get laid... he'll get that TrimSpa lady
 

Dissipate

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Yes, but can he get laid? I doubt it.

I'll take good pvssy over "glowing remarks and A+'s" any day of the week.

He can just pay for sex after he gets a career with fat loot.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Yes, but can he get laid? I doubt it.

I'll take good pvssy over "glowing remarks and A+'s" any day of the week.

He can just pay for sex after he gets a career with fat loot.

There is no pride in that.
 

Nebor

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Don't worry, racial discrimination will bring him down to everyone elses level in the job market.
 
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