IF ATTACKED ISRAEL MAY NUKE IRAQ

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SnapIT

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Originally posted by: rbhawcroft
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: liziumGag, you pretty much answered your question:
galhalfwoman mutters...
Remember .
Have you even bont to exterminate us and they want to exterminate anyone that isn't them.
... don't you have homeless to feed? feed them before supporting other countries warfare...
lol

Are you on drugs?
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: lizium
The truth is... USA is all alone at this point. Thank GOD we have out planes and tanks and ships... Everyone is afraid of us, otherwise we would be the hunted ones. As much as i hate Gore, maybe he should have been the one.. Wait, well i dont know, both Bush and gore are really bad.

We need Wild Bill back.

*lol* do you actually believe that anything the US has got scares anyone... it doesn't... not one little tiny bit... the rest of the world knows that if you were to attack, it would be the US against the world and you WOULD loose... it would be called the three day war...
 

PistachioByAzul

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It has always come down to one thing.

Let's put things in the crudest possible terms. Since long before the Gulf War, the United States has been bombing, destabilizing and, yes, terrorizing other countries for cheap, plentiful oil. Don't stand between a hyperpower and its blood supply.

American thirst for oil helps to explain all kinds of recent international events, including the war on terrorism. This February, everyone was too busy counting dead Al Qaeda to notice Hamid Karzai, the new US-backed Afghan president, strike an agreement with Pakistan for a trans-Afghanistan pipeline from the vast Caspian oil reserves. Rumored to be in the running for the multi-billion-dollar contract: American petroleum giant Unocal, who in the late 1990s tried and failed to negotiate a similar deal with the Taliban. Then there's April's short-lived coup against the elected government of oil-rich Venezuela, a revolt supported and possibly initiated by the Bush administration to guarantee supplies in the event of an Arab embargo.

Big Oil and the Bush administration go way back. Both the Bush family and US Vice President Dick Cheney got rich in the petroleum biz. Fossil-fuel companies contributed $1.8 million to George Bush's 2000 presidential campaign. Bush Sr. is an advisor to the Carlyle Group, which observers say secured lucrative Saudi Arabian investments as payback for Pappy Bush's stomping of Iraq in the Gulf War. Hamid Karzai used to consult for Unocal, as did Zalmay Khalilzad, US special envoy to Afghanistan. Months before September 11, American officials told the Pakistani foreign secretary that an attack on Afghanistan was planned for October.

In a global economy fuelled by the combustion engine, the US won't let OPEC hold it over a barrel much longer. American gas pumps must keep running over at rock-bottom prices ? with the profits flowing to American oil barons. Accomplishing that requires a war on many fronts, in many guises, and with many tragic consequences. Who better to make it happen than George W. Bush, a man whose private fortunes mesh so seamlessly with his public ambitions? It's nothing personal. It's just business.

Benefiting most unabashedly from these cozy arrangements is ExxonMobil, also known as Esso and Imperial Oil. The world's biggest oil and gas company, it's on its way to making petroleum the new tobacco.

While Shell, BP, and other smaller players are coming round to renewable energy, ExxonMobil will have none of it. Researching alternatives like wind and solar power might cut into the bottom line ($17.7 billion in 2000, the largest profit of any corporation in history). ExxonMobil has better ways to spend its money: stepping up exploration and production, helping get George Bush elected, lobbying the US government to abandon the Kyoto Protocol on climate change. As a result, ExxonMobil is now the worst polluter on the planet. It also rejects all evidence that fossil fuels cause global warming, predicted to endanger hundreds of millions of lives over the next century.

ExxonMobil can't do any of these things if people stop driving up to its pumps and buying gas.

? Nick Rockel
 

AZGamer

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Strongest Military.
Strongest Economy.
We can conquer all.
If not, there's MAD.

The world fears us - with our civilian militias (any armed man), national guard, and etc We cannot be conquered, be it 3 days or 3 years.
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: lizium
The truth is... USA is all alone at this point. Thank GOD we have out planes and tanks and ships... Everyone is afraid of us, otherwise we would be the hunted ones. As much as i hate Gore, maybe he should have been the one.. Wait, well i dont know, both Bush and gore are really bad.

We need Wild Bill back.

*lol* do you actually believe that anything the US has got scares anyone... it doesn't... not one little tiny bit... the rest of the world knows that if you were to attack, it would be the US against the world and you WOULD loose... it would be called the three day war...


Hmmm really?

I imagine the result of this war would be the invasion of the US and it's loss of sovereignty?
Do you know that it's basically US policy to throw up all nukes and destroy the world if it's soveriegnty is threatened militarily?

There are two countries on the face of the earth that have ENSURED they will NEVER be invaded and taken over, the USA and Russia.
Such is the benefit of massive nuclear arsenals.
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
Strongest Military.
Strongest Economy.
We can conquer all.
If not, there's MAD.

The world fears us - with our civilian militias (any armed man), national guard, and etc We cannot be conquered, be it 3 days or 3 years.

LMAO... this sooooo wrong... nobobdy fears the US, not even the ones who should... why don't you get it, the US against the world... you would be living in misery for the rest of your lives, and the war would last three days...

Americans think they are superior, so did germans once, the WORLD turned on the germans, the WORLD would do the same again and show the US what the muscles of allies can do... the US would be a crippled small nation after that...
 

lizium

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
Strongest Military.
Strongest Economy.
We can conquer all.
If not, there's MAD.

The world fears us - with our civilian militias (any armed man), national guard, and etc We cannot be conquered, be it 3 days or 3 years.

AZGamer is possibly the dumbest persen i've met. You do know that Russia alone has more nukes to kill all people on this earth 22 times over? China and India have enough nukes to cause mass havoc as well. If i remember correctly numbers go something like this:

Russia - 24 thousand warheads
USA - 22 thousand warheads
India - close to 500 warheads
China - a hundred or so warheads

The problem is that nobody really wants or is allowed to use Nuclear weapons, both Russia and USA have signed many treaties, and UN have banned nukes... So Its pretty much back to convensional warfare, which comes down to ballistic missiles, planes and troops. Nukes are a "last red call measure" if all else is lost.
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: lizium
The truth is... USA is all alone at this point. Thank GOD we have out planes and tanks and ships... Everyone is afraid of us, otherwise we would be the hunted ones. As much as i hate Gore, maybe he should have been the one.. Wait, well i dont know, both Bush and gore are really bad.

We need Wild Bill back.

*lol* do you actually believe that anything the US has got scares anyone... it doesn't... not one little tiny bit... the rest of the world knows that if you were to attack, it would be the US against the world and you WOULD loose... it would be called the three day war...


Hmmm really?

I imagine the result of this war would be the invasion of the US and it's loss of sovereignty?
Do you know that it's basically US policy to throw up all nukes and destroy the world if it's soveriegnty is threatened militarily?

There are two countries on the face of the earth that have ENSURED they will NEVER be invaded and taken over, the USA and Russia.
Such is the benefit of massive nuclear arsenals.

Actually that was not my point, my point was that the us would be a small controlled nation after such an attempt...

Using nukes to kill your own population... stupidity knows no limits when it comes to war, does it?
 

UltraQuiet

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Actually that was not my point, my point was that the us would be a small controlled nation after such an attempt...

You have absolutely no clue what the outcome would be and you sound (and are ) as stupid as assgamer in trying to guess.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Every country will use any means to protect it's government. A primary function of any government is to keep itself in power. By doing so it either controls or supports it's citizens, depending on if the country is a dictatorship or democracy. If a given country collectively feels it existance is in grave jeopardy, it will use nukes. That applys to the US, Russia, Israel or the Dutchy of Fenwick. That is a basic political reality and I am suprised it is so poorly understood by some.
 

lizium

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Good call AzN, but we are all out of rice! Do you want to drive your civic to go get more?
 

AzNmAnJLH

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"let's go have a bbq" is in reference to israel using nukes incase you are too slow to catch on... lizium
 
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Israel should respond with nuclear weapons only if Iraq attacks them with nuclear weapons, or if there is a major chemical or biological attack that kills tens of thousands of Israelis. Anything less, in my opinion, wouldn't warrant such a devastating reponse.
 
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*lol* do you actually believe that anything the US has got scares anyone... it doesn't... not one little tiny bit... the rest of the world knows that if you were to attack, it would be the US against the world and you WOULD loose... it would be called the three day war...

If the US were to attack whom? I don't understand what you are talking about, and I suspect that is because you don't know yourself. God knows your doomsday scenario has never come to pass when the US has attacked anyone before, and there is no apparent reason to believe the rest of the world (including your own nation, Sweden) would take up arms against the US if we become embroiled in a war in Iraq or elsewhere. Few industrialized nations in the world could cease trade ties with the US without major economic repercussions, much less take it on in a full-blown war.

How on earth could we be conquered in three days when no nation with a land mass adjoining the US has any significant military presence, and our Air Force could easily preserve air supremacy over our sovereign territory?

What the hell are you even talking about?

 

ToBeMe

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: lizium
The truth is... USA is all alone at this point. Thank GOD we have out planes and tanks and ships... Everyone is afraid of us, otherwise we would be the hunted ones. As much as i hate Gore, maybe he should have been the one.. Wait, well i dont know, both Bush and gore are really bad.

We need Wild Bill back.

*lol* do you actually believe that anything the US has got scares anyone... it doesn't... not one little tiny bit... the rest of the world knows that if you were to attack, it would be the US against the world and you WOULD loose... it would be called the three day war...
You, are a mindless dolt without a clue, or a brain! You have nothing but assumtion and naivity behind your words..........stay on the porch with the pups a while longer before you attempt to run with the big dogs or you're going to find yourself wimpering back home defeated! 3 days.............you truely are as mindless as LAZGomer aren't you?????????

 

CanOWorms

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Yes, it's very realistic that the whole world will unite to fight the United States. All the other countries will unite and completely throw away all animosities and hatred they have towards each other.
 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Yes, it's very realistic that the whole world will unite to fight the United States. All the other countries will unite and completely throw away all animosities and hatred they have towards each other.

Not only that, they will drain the oceans so there is a land bridge between asia and the Americas. On top of this the US would refuse to use nuclear weapons to maintain sovereignity. I know, a crack group of sweedish nordic warriors will paratroop into montana and try to take the silos. Now of course how they actually get there is another problem.
 

syzygy

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US attacks Iraq -> Iraq attacks Israel -> Israel attacks Iraq back -> No Oil for us -> We migh end up with a Hiroshima insted of NYC and pay $10 per gallon of gas.

iraq attacked isreal before (during the gulf war) and isreal didn't even consider the nuclear option. isreal, for a terrorist nation
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showed extraordinary restraint when iraq's lame scuds were creating potholes for tel aviv commuters.

now 12 years later, iraq's economy is destitute, zero military innovation and only a trifling amount of rearmament, 2 no-fly zones,
low public and general troop morale, and a legion of other crippling shortcomings.

america can redeploy the same missile defense batteries that helped shoot down scuds in 1990, supplementing the ones
the u.s. provided isreal in the wake of those attacks. not to mention the gobs of satellite data from years of close air reconnaisance.

iraq will have her fanatical elite ground forces hold off in the cities and work the terrorist network for possible revenge
via suicide bombings. saddam knows his primary weapon against the u.s. and isreal lies in the political arena. america's
failure to garner support from regional governments and the 'arab street' would be exploited.
 
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