IF ATTACKED ISRAEL MAY NUKE IRAQ

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: lizium
The truth is... USA is all alone at this point. Thank GOD we have out planes and tanks and ships... Everyone is afraid of us, otherwise we would be the hunted ones. As much as i hate Gore, maybe he should have been the one.. Wait, well i dont know, both Bush and gore are really bad.

We need Wild Bill back.

*lol* do you actually believe that anything the US has got scares anyone... it doesn't... not one little tiny bit... the rest of the world knows that if you were to attack, it would be the US against the world and you WOULD loose... it would be called the three day war...

Three days? Please tell me how you think "the rest of the world" (I put that in quotes b/c I dont think you'll get the entire world to agree on any one thing in theory, never mind getting them to put their life on the line for it) could even field 1 million men onto American soil in 3 days. Never mind that 1 million men invading the USA would be a grossly inadequate force. Please, just explain how you think any group of nations would, after deciding to try an invasion of the USA, field a fighting force of 1 million men, with equipment, in three days. The more complex problems, like how you would have a 1 million man force roll over the entire USA in 72 hours, I dont care for answers for, since you dont have any (realistic ones).

Even given three months, the world would be unable to put a 10 million man armed force near the USA. Where do you think they would use as a staging area? Canada and Mexico are the only viable choices. And lets face it, niether of them could hold out against the USA for 7 days in conventional warfare. If we did discover that an invasion was planned from either country, or both for that matter, the likely course of action would be invasion. After which, the USA would control the North American continent. Then where would you invade from? Central America?

However, in your unlikely scenario that the USA loses a conventional war, you have one more problem do deal with. Nukes. We launch at your cities when we see that we will not win. Any countries with nukes launch back. We fire more nukes, more nukes are shot at us, etc. Its not that we would lose, its that EVERYONE would lose.

 

[lizium]

Originally posted by: syzygy

US attacks Iraq -> Iraq attacks Israel -> Israel attacks Iraq back -> No Oil for us -> We migh end up with a Hiroshima insted of NYC and pay $10 per gallon of gas.

iraq attacked isreal before (during the gulf war) and isreal didn't even consider the nuclear option. isreal, for a terrorist nation

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showed extraordinary restraint when iraq's lame scuds were creating potholes for tel aviv commuters.

now 12 years later, iraq's economy is destitute, zero military innovation and only a trifling amount of rearmament, 2 no-fly zones,
low public and general troop morale, and a legion of other crippling shortcomings.

america can redeploy the same missile defense batteries that helped shoot down scuds in 1990, supplementing the ones
the u.s. provided isreal in the wake of those attacks. not to mention the gobs of satellite data from years of close air reconnaisance.

iraq will have her fanatical elite ground forces hold off in the cities and work the terrorist network for possible revenge
via suicide bombings. saddam knows his primary weapon against the u.s. and isreal lies in the political arena. america's
failure to garner support from regional governments and the 'arab street' would be exploited.

That migh be true, but remember HOW Israel is getting all of this? We are giving this away to them! Every plane they own we built, and we didnt even charge them. US gives Israel $3 BILLION every year for military purposes, and then a lot of extra bonuses, etc... Thats our tax money.

Now, the real problem would be if the Russian get pissed enough, and decide to sell Iraq their new rockets for which there is absolutely no defence at this point. I am talking about that rocket which break up into like 50 peaces in fligh. This was banned by UN and US ofcours because everyone is afraid of it. If Iraq gets a few dozen of those, Israel will suffer greatly.

The 3 day war idea is trully amuzing

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: lizium

Originally posted by: syzygy

US attacks Iraq -> Iraq attacks Israel -> Israel attacks Iraq back -> No Oil for us -> We migh end up with a Hiroshima insted of NYC and pay $10 per gallon of gas.

iraq attacked isreal before (during the gulf war) and isreal didn't even consider the nuclear option. isreal, for a terrorist nation

,
showed extraordinary restraint when iraq's lame scuds were creating potholes for tel aviv commuters.

now 12 years later, iraq's economy is destitute, zero military innovation and only a trifling amount of rearmament, 2 no-fly zones,
low public and general troop morale, and a legion of other crippling shortcomings.

america can redeploy the same missile defense batteries that helped shoot down scuds in 1990, supplementing the ones
the u.s. provided isreal in the wake of those attacks. not to mention the gobs of satellite data from years of close air reconnaisance.

iraq will have her fanatical elite ground forces hold off in the cities and work the terrorist network for possible revenge
via suicide bombings. saddam knows his primary weapon against the u.s. and isreal lies in the political arena. america's
failure to garner support from regional governments and the 'arab street' would be exploited.

That migh be true, but remember HOW Israel is getting all of this? We are giving this away to them! Every plane they own we built, and we didnt even charge them. US gives Israel $3 BILLION every year for military purposes, and then a lot of extra bonuses, etc... Thats our tax money.

Now, the real problem would be if the Russian get pissed enough, and decide to sell Iraq their new rockets for which there is absolutely no defence at this point. I am talking about that rocket which break up into like 50 peaces in fligh. This was banned by UN and US ofcours because everyone is afraid of it. If Iraq gets a few dozen of those, Israel will suffer greatly.

The 3 day war idea is trully amuzing

Can we get a model #/name? If all you are talking about is MRVs, its nothing new.

I hate to break it to you, but in any exchange of WMD, no other country in the Middle East would come out ahead in an attack on Israel. Even if the Russians sell the Iraqis some missles, they arent dumb enough to sell them the warheads. Which leave Saddam with chemical and biological warheads. Israel, OTOH, has nukes. If WMD were cars, nuclear weapons are the Rolls-Royces/Bentleys. I am in no way saying that CW/BW are ineffective, but Iraq would get off one good volley of missles. Then Iraq would be turned into a glass parking lot. Israel has no other choice. If they allow any nation to hit them with WMD and they dont retaliate in kind with massive force, they're FUBARed. In the classic choice of "its either them or us", no one but a pacifist chooses "them"... and I dont think any anti-Israel people (the sort of people who would mount an attack with WMD) would call their leadership pacifistic.

 

[dew042]

Originally posted by: aphexII
Somehow im hesitant to trust 'targetiraq.com' as a reputable news source.

 

[lizium]

HMMM Sorry friend you are talking about something else.

Missile 1

Missile 2

Russians alredy admited about having those things, and have clearly stated that no system in the world can track, or itercept this missile(s). This is basically to counter US Star Wars program, which will also be useless against this.