If BX133 rules, then...

[ahfung]

... BX150 must reign!

From IXBT:

http://www.ixbt-labs.com/cpu/coppermine-overclock.html

BX150 vs BX133
1. 500E@750 ~= P3-800EB
2. 550E@825 ~= P3-933EB

Needlessly to say, a 600E@900 will exceed the performance of P3-1GHz. Forget those pathetic nubmers of i815/VIA, they aren't even contenders of BX133.

At 150MHz FSB, AGP = 100MHz (equal to AGP3X) and PCI = 37.5MHz. Everything is overclocked. BX is truly the ultimiate overclockers' board.

Man, afterall 150MHz FSB isn't that difficult for a 2 years old mobo chipset to reach. Get the right mobo, like Abit BF6/BE6-2, Asus P3BF/CUBX, MSI BXMaster or Epox BX6/BX7/BX7+, and a display card like GeForce or G400 which run flawlessly at 100MHz AGP, BX150 is easily ready to go.

For self-interest I tested some brands of cheap PC133 SDRAM on my BX152 systems. To my surprise all of them do the dance at 150MHz nicely. Just make sure you don't get a mobo that is picky towards memory.

 

[LXi]

Not that impressive. Im sure VIA/i815E will hit 150 as well if the CPU is capable of doing it, they will probably push the CPU even high due to the fact that 1/2AGP divider is present.

Just curious, do you know Andylawcc?

 

[ahfung]

No way, all at 133MHz FSB, BX leaves them in dust. The gap will widen more at 150MHz.

andylawcc? He sux, HAHAHA~~ j/k

 

[LXi]

Oh boy, what do you mean by leaving them in the dust? If you mean like 1-2%, or 2-3 frames per second, guess what? You're right. As far as I've seen the BX is outdueling VIA/i815E, but by a very small margin. I wouldnt call it a no contest. Plus all the cool sh*t that comes with i815E, I really think its chances of suceeding BX is high. Like I said, if you hit 150 with VIA/i815E, the gap will either stays the same or be narrowed.

Do you know where he's been these days? Some said he went back to Hong Kong, I just want to comfirm that.

 

[ahfung]

You've asked the right person. He's now having the summer vocation in Hongkong, rotting gradually. Just curious to know, why u know me got the answer?

Well forget the dust stuff, it is a bit exaggerated. But it is a shame that these new mobo with a full checklist of "technical advancements", cough**hype**cough, still unable to surpass a 2 years old "inferior" product.

 

[LXi]

Well, it makes sense to ask you because you're from HongKong, I know Andy is from HongKong so I guess you know him, or the chances are high.

True enough, VIA and i815E is full of marketting gimmicks(AGP4X, ATA66/100), but it does makes sense to get them over the BX. They support 133MHz naturally, a good advantage, and the 1/2 AGP divider really helps when you overclock, another good reason to get them, and having AGP4X and ATA100 to brag about isnt a bad thing either. Well, that's just me.

 

[Stringy]

Well anyone have a 1Ghz to test this theory??
I have a P3-650 @975 150Mhz FSB, works like a charm.. This is with Retail HS/F and Standard Voltage (1.65v)....




Craig

 

[AdamK47]

I wouldn't say that the BX beats the VIA133A by only 1% to 2%. It's more like 8% to 15% (and sometimes more) at equivalant bus speeds. I've got various BX boards and VIA133/133A boards, and this is what I have seen a lot of times. Memory interleaving does help out a lot of the VIA boards, but the performance gap is still there.

 

[Ulysses]

I believe the ace in the hole for the BX is in fact its memory controller, while that is the achilles heel of the VIAs.

 

[LXi]

I mean BX beats i815E by like 1-2%. The gap between BX and VIA is more, but in Q3, the difference is less than 5 frames per second. I hardly call that a difference.