If everyone grew up with a particular religion, and believe it to be right...then how is one religion right or wrong?

[NFS4]

Christians growing up as Christians
Muslims growing up as Muslims

Who are we to say which is right and which is wrong? I mean these people grow up learning this certain way of life from birth and believe it to be true.

 

[ElFenix]

how are macs or pcs right or wrong?

 

[Beau]

Funny how the most deadly instances in history revolve around the peacful teachings of religion.

 

[Ameesh]

you are just coming to this conclusion?

LOL

IMO:
niether of them are right.

 

[StageLeft]

<< Christians growing up as Christians
Muslims growing up as Muslims

WHo are we to say which is right and which is wrong? >>

You're right. A generally healthy level of stupidity pervades he who thinks that his religion is the right one and somebody elses is the wrong one when in fact most people are into their own religion because of nothing else but upbringing. This is why most americans do not follow budha and most people in iraq are not roman catholics.

 

[Adul]

because they say so. I dont think they are right nor wrong.

 

[Beau]

<< niether of them are right. >>

What's right then? Personally, if you believe it, then it is right for you, no one else.

 

[HOWITIS]

all religon is silly as hell, they are both wrong

 

[NFS4]

<<

<< Christians growing up as Christians
Muslims growing up as Muslims

WHo are we to say which is right and which is wrong? >>

You're right. A generally healthy level of stupidity pervades he who thinks that his religion is the right one and somebody elses is the wrong one when in fact most people are into their own religion because of nothing else but upbringing. This is why most americans do not follow budha and most people in iraq are not roman catholics. >>


Exactly. If Catholic who lives in the US instead was born in India to Indian parents, there's about a 99% chance that they WOULDN'T have grown up being Catholic. So how is it they people have gotten so pig-headed?

 

[AmazonRasta]

All religions are wrong. There is no God. Religion is/was a way for the ignorant to explain things. Before you say, "Prove there is no God!" please prove to me that there is one.

 

[luv2chill]

I came to the same conclusion a while ago whilst travelling in Europe. Now I can't believe how judgemental I used to be. Too bad that's what my church taught me. Glad I unlearned it.

l2c

 

[StageLeft]

<< So how is it they people have gotten so pig-headed? >>

If enough people tell it to you and you try hard enough in time you'll swear the sky is green. I asked this question of a girl once who was nutty hard into her religion and she said that ultimately it was your own responsibility to pick her one. I gave the case of an eskimo and she honestly believed that an eskimo born in god knows where would go to hell if they didn't find HER religion.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

At my church they had movies telling us how everyone else (Muslims, Mormons, etc.) was going to Hell.

My bosses' current religion falls into the category of "everyone is going to Hell except for us" as well.

 

[samgau]

There is an ancient hindu saying: "there are many paths to God"
ie: doesn't matter what name men give to God or what religion they follow, there is some truths in all religions and some fabrications too... if only man could focus on the similarities instead of the differences...

 

[isildur]

<< A generally healthy level of stupidity pervades he who thinks that his religion is the right one and somebody elses is the wrong one when in fact most people are into their own religion because of nothing else but upbringing. This is why most americans do not follow budha and most people in iraq are not roman catholics. >>



wow, nice job oversimplifying a complex system!
:-\

You're reasoning here can hardly even be called such.

The veracity/falsehood of the claims made by a given religion are irrelavent to the truth/nontruth of your asssertion that "most" people follow their religion without giving it serious consideration (this is what you meant when you derided those who follow a system of belief simple because their parents did, yes?).

What it DOES mean, if true, is that most people don't give their system of beliefs/their parents' system of beliefs a serious thinking through prior to acceptance. While this does not speak highly for their intelligence or fairness, it does not extend to imply or denote the relative truth/nontruth of whatever system of belief this may be.

Most people don't seriously consider the laws of gravity either; they simply accept them - yet they are no less true.

I.e.: simply becuase someone believes it for stupid reasons, doesn't necessarily make it untrue, and, furthermore, to assert that it does so, ignoring whatever people hold such opinions after submitting them to critical analysis is to commit a greater act of silliness then those you malign.

 

[luv2chill]

<< All religions are wrong. There is no God. Religion is/was a way for the ignorant to explain things. Before you say, "Prove there is no God!" please prove to me that there is one. >>

Amazon, while I respect your opinion... where do you get off passing it off as fact? Your opinion is that there is no God. That's all anyone can have on the issue because there are no facts either way.

I don't go so far as to tell people "there's no god(s)". I let people think and believe what they want, so long as they respect mine and everyone else's own ideas on the matter.

Spirituality/religion is a very personal thing IMHO... I don't see why people are all about the group mentality when it comes to religion anyway. I could never stand going to church for that reason (among many others).

l2c

 

[hudster]

Ok, putting aside the fact that I am a Christian, here's how I see it from a logical standpoint:

1) one religion is going to be right, and the others wrong,
or
2) a couple religions are gonna be "close" to being right, and the rest will be wrong (or not quite as close to being right),
or
3) they're all going to be wrong


I don't think religions are all similar enough to say that in the end they can all be right, so that's why I don't include that as an option.


-hudster

 

[Beau]

<< Ok, putting aside the fact that I am a Christian, here's how I see it from a logical standpoint: 1) one religion is going to be right, and the others wrong, or 2) a couple religions are gonna be "close" to being right, and the rest will be wrong (or not quite as close to being right), or 3) they're all going to be wrong I don't think religions are all similar enough to say that in the end they can all be right, so that's why I don't include that as an option. -hudster >>




Or maybe if you look at it and say "Wow, religion was created by man, written by man, and controlled by man. Maybe it was there to serve the purpose of explaining things that man could not understand at the time. Maybe if I looked at the root of all religions, the base teachings of 'be a good person, don't do things that are bad (using common sense), blah blah blah, then maybe I'll be all right in the after life, if there is one.".

 

[Maetryx]

While it's possible that both of those religions are wrong, it isn't possible that they are both right. They are exclusive belief systems. The whole "right for you but not for me" is the biggest philosophical fallacy of the last century. It's irrational.

 

[joohang]

It is because both Christianity and Islam emphasize faith over anything else.

 

[Beau]

<< While it's possible that both of those religions are wrong, it isn't possible that they are both right. They are exclusive belief systems. The whole "right for you but not for me" is the biggest philosophical fallacy of the last century. It's irrational. >>



Since there is not one religion that has a substancial majority of the human race as members, are you saying that God would set most of us up to fail? Doesn't seem fair at all.

 

[zimmie6576]

<< Funny how the most deadly instances in history revolve around the peacful teachings of religion. >>



That's what shows that most religions are hypocritical, and not tolerant of others. One of the most important things we have is free will, so we have no right to kill others to force our beliefs on them. My religion for example, teaches peace too. However, no one in my religion has ever joined any armed services of any kind, or fought in any wars. We do not believe in that. If I was drafted, I would either not show up or move to another country. I am not a treasonous coward, but I do not believe in war at all, and I will not be forced to fight for this country. Killing is just plain wrong, for whatever reason. Before you ask, yes I would probably kill someone or die to defend my family, but killing someone would be a last resort.

For me, it shows that my religion is more "right" than others. We are not hypocritical, we don't even have priests, nuns, cardinals, rabbis, whatever. Everyone is equal, and free to marry as they wish.

And no, it isn't a cult.

I'm not intending to open/start up a debate, just wanted to add in my point of view.

 

[BigJohnKC]

<< What it DOES mean, if true, is that most people don't give their system of beliefs/their parents' system of beliefs a serious thinking through prior to acceptance. While this does not speak highly for their intelligence or fairness, it does not extend to imply or denote the relative truth/nontruth of whatever system of belief this may be. >>


I wasn't going to respond in this thread as it is basically a flamefest against all religions, but this statement got to me. I can tell you from a Christian perspective that anyone who doesn't give their choice of religion any really serious thought and just accepts can't really be a Christian. It is a fundamental part of the Christian faith to not only believe that Jesus died for your sins, but also to accept him into your own life and develop a personal relationship with him. Just accepting Christianity as your religion without thinking does not make you a Christian.

 

[joohang]

zimmie6576, are you a follower of a New Religion?

PM me if you are. I'm interested to learn what it is.

 

[Beau]

<< That's what shows that most religions are hypocritical, and not tolerant of others. One of the most important things we have is free will, so we have no right to kill others to force our beliefs on them. My religion for example, teaches peace too. However, no one in my religion has ever joined any armed services of any kind, or fought in any wars. We do not believe in that. If I was drafted, I would either not show up or move to another country. I am not a treasonous coward, but I do not believe in war at all, and I will not be forced to fight for this country. Killing is just plain wrong, for whatever reason. Before you ask, yes I would probably kill someone or die to defend my family, but killing someone would be a last resort. For me, it shows that my religion is more "right" than others. We are not hypocritical, we don't even have priests, nuns, cardinals, rabbis, whatever. Everyone is equal, and free to marry as they wish. And no, it isn't a cult. I'm not intending to open/start up a debate, just wanted to add in my point of view. >>




Same with my religion - The religion of Beau6183. Total members: 1, me. I have my beliefs and I think that I'm just fine with that.