Originally posted by: manlymatt83
... then how come there's no "anti-bible" from biblical times?
In other words, so many people in modern day times are quick to say "thanks for dumbing us down", or "oh god, here comes another bible story again". Perhaps these people consider themselves more educated or logical. Perhaps they understand physics enough to fully believe in the Big Bang theory and discount biblical claims. Perhaps they just don't want to believe in something they can't see. I don't know the reasons - but for all the people on these forums who consider themselves religious and/or god believing, there are also those who worship a spaghetti monster.
So my question is: where are these "spaghetti monster" worshipers of biblical times? Where are the books written from people in that age that say "The truth about the bible", and have some guy writing from his desk about how he overheard someone outside his hut talking about writing this fictional book called "The bible" and how it was going to make him millions. I don't know -- if the bible is a document that is supposed to accurately depict how life was during the age of Jesus, why aren't there any significant books that counter-act his existence from that time period?
Disclaimer: I have no idea how I feel about religion or god and I'm still making up my mind. So this argument is neutral and should not be taken as a pro-bible or anti-bible argument.
Originally posted by: jonks
What was L. Ron Hubbard's burning bush?
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Logic: The Anti-bible.
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside. Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith.
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Logic: The Anti-bible.
Corinthians 1:19:
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside. Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith.
Originally posted by: udneekgnim
Originally posted by: jonks
What was L. Ron Hubbard's burning bush?
stupid people
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Logic: The Anti-bible.
Corinthians 1:19:
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside. Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith.
Originally posted by: nonameo
they were probably killed.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Logic: The Anti-bible.
Corinthians 1:19:
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside. Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith.
They must have got you really young. I'm sorry
Originally posted by: jonks
What was L. Ron Hubbard's burning bush?
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
A. Nice troll post
B. I would like to learn more about this "big bank" theory.
Originally posted by: manlymatt83
Perhaps they understand physics enough to fully believe in the Big Bank theory
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Logic: The Anti-bible.
Corinthians 1:19:
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside. Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith.
They must have got you really young. I'm sorry
Actually no. I was agnostic for many, many years. Up until a couple months ago, I had never really read the Bible.
I came to a crossroads in a my life where I came to realize that my life was useless the way I was living it. I was on a path of destruction...destroying myself and many other's lives as well. I found a new way of living and believing that makes sense to me. I don't fully understand religion (I consider myself more spiritual) but do believe that the Bible is God's instruction manual for life.
I would never try to force my beliefs on anyone, but I will happily defend and explain them to anyone who wants to listen.
Originally posted by: MrWizzard
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
A. Nice troll post
B. I would like to learn more about this "big bank" theory.
Originally posted by: manlymatt83
Perhaps they understand physics enough to fully believe in the Big Bank theory
ummmmmmm no you are the troll.
And Ol'Betsy is ugly! so there.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Logic: The Anti-bible.
Corinthians 1:19:
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside. Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith.
They must have got you really young. I'm sorry
Actually no. I was agnostic for many, many years. Up until a couple months ago, I had never really read the Bible.
I came to a crossroads in a my life where I came to realize that my life was useless the way I was living it. I was on a path of destruction...destroying myself and many other's lives as well. I found a new way of living and believing that makes sense to me. I don't fully understand religion (I consider myself more spiritual) but do believe that the Bible is God's instruction manual for life.
I would never try to force my beliefs on anyone, but I will happily defend and explain them to anyone who wants to listen.
Fair enough. I just wish there were other crutches that people in dispair could turn to. Fairy tales about Jewish zombie carpenters, talking snakes, and a "young earth" are not productive.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Logic: The Anti-bible.
Corinthians 1:19:
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside. Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith.
They must have got you really young. I'm sorry
Actually no. I was agnostic for many, many years. Up until a couple months ago, I had never really read the Bible.
I came to a crossroads in a my life where I came to realize that my life was useless the way I was living it. I was on a path of destruction...destroying myself and many other's lives as well. I found a new way of living and believing that makes sense to me. I don't fully understand religion (I consider myself more spiritual) but do believe that the Bible is God's instruction manual for life.
I would never try to force my beliefs on anyone, but I will happily defend and explain them to anyone who wants to listen.
Fair enough. I just wish there were other crutches that people in dispair could turn to. Fairy tales about Jewish zombie carpenters, talking snakes, and a "young earth" are not productive.
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Logic: The Anti-bible.
Corinthians 1:19:
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside. Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith.
They must have got you really young. I'm sorry
Actually no. I was agnostic for many, many years. Up until a couple months ago, I had never really read the Bible.
I came to a crossroads in a my life where I came to realize that my life was useless the way I was living it. I was on a path of destruction...destroying myself and many other's lives as well. I found a new way of living and believing that makes sense to me. I don't fully understand religion (I consider myself more spiritual) but do believe that the Bible is God's instruction manual for life.
I would never try to force my beliefs on anyone, but I will happily defend and explain them to anyone who wants to listen.
Fair enough. I just wish there were other crutches that people in dispair could turn to. Fairy tales about Jewish zombie carpenters, talking snakes, and a "young earth" are not productive.
There are many millions of people who would disagree with your statement. One of the best quotes I have ever heard regarding God is simple and to the point:
"Who am I to say there is no God?"
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Logic: The Anti-bible.
Corinthians 1:19:
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside. Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith.
They must have got you really young. I'm sorry
Actually no. I was agnostic for many, many years. Up until a couple months ago, I had never really read the Bible.
I came to a crossroads in a my life where I came to realize that my life was useless the way I was living it. I was on a path of destruction...destroying myself and many other's lives as well. I found a new way of living and believing that makes sense to me. I don't fully understand religion (I consider myself more spiritual) but do believe that the Bible is God's instruction manual for life.
I would never try to force my beliefs on anyone, but I will happily defend and explain them to anyone who wants to listen.
Fair enough. I just wish there were other crutches that people in dispair could turn to. Fairy tales about Jewish zombie carpenters, talking snakes, and a "young earth" are not productive.
There are many millions of people who would disagree with your statement. One of the best quotes I have ever heard regarding God is simple and to the point:
"Who am I to say there is no God?"
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Logic: The Anti-bible.
Corinthians 1:19:
For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the learning of the learned I will set aside. Where is the wise one? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish? For since in the wisdom of God the world did not come to know God through wisdom, it was the will of God through the foolishness of the proclamation to save those who have faith.
They must have got you really young. I'm sorry
Actually no. I was agnostic for many, many years. Up until a couple months ago, I had never really read the Bible.
I came to a crossroads in a my life where I came to realize that my life was useless the way I was living it. I was on a path of destruction...destroying myself and many other's lives as well. I found a new way of living and believing that makes sense to me. I don't fully understand religion (I consider myself more spiritual) but do believe that the Bible is God's instruction manual for life.
I would never try to force my beliefs on anyone, but I will happily defend and explain them to anyone who wants to listen.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: rudeguy
There are many millions of people who would disagree with your statement. One of the best quotes I have ever heard regarding God is simple and to the point:
"Who am I to say there is no God?"
We could do this dance for 3 pages. Niether one of us will get anywhere with the other, so lets spare the good people of ATOT.