If Hillary Clinton Ran for President

[Aimster]

Vice President?

If yes, would you guys who are against her running consider voting for her if Bill was on the ballot?

 

[lozina]

He could be first lady

 

[CaptnKirk]

No.

A candidate for Vice President must NOT be excluded by any of the qualifing
factors that would be used to determine the elligibility for the presidency.

Since he has served 2 terms, he is not eligible to have a third term
That 3rd term potential is the exclusion factor.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
No.

A candidate for Vice President must NOT be excluded by any of the qualifing
factors that would be used to determine the elligibility for the presidency.

Since he has served 2 terms, he is not eligible to have a third term
That 3rd term potential is the exclusion factor.

 

[Centinel]

Originally posted by: lozina
He could be first lady

ROFL

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
No.

A candidate for Vice President must NOT be excluded by any of the qualifing
factors that would be used to determine the elligibility for the presidency.

Since he has served 2 terms, he is not eligible to have a third term
That 3rd term potential is the exclusion factor.

Tell ya what...A deal could be struck that would drop term limits if the president could be born on foreign soil.

2008 race: Bill vs Ah-Nold

 

[nick1985]

a president is allowed to serve up to 10 years....so maybe?

 

[CaptnKirk]

Presidential Term Limits were imposed when Rosevelt was elected to a 4th term.
In will NOT be repealed - in our lifetime.

'Foreign born' already has a caveat that 'IF' the person was born in a U.S. Possesion, military base,
child born of American Citizens while in a foriegn country on official U.S. Business . . , ect.

I don't think it would be in the best interest of our nation to change the constitution just because
the Goobernator could win a popularity contest. It was set up to keep outside influences and
foreign family pressures out of the political system.

Do you think that Putin or Tony Blair should be considered as elligible for presidency of the U.S. ?
Don't think so.

How about any random Tusanmi survivor, or someone who washed up on the beach in Florida,
or sneeks across the border from Mexico or Canada. The Emir of UAE is our 'friend' how about him ?

There is one other 'anomoly' about being President - it's 'Being Elected' to the office.
Lyndon Johnson COULD have been elected to a second term, and since he replaced
Kennedy he completed that term before he was elected to his 'Fisrt' term.
Mechenisms are in place so that a President could conceiveably serve for 3 full terms, providing
that the persident that had been elected were to expire before the inaugration - the Vice President
becomes the President, and is still eligible to be elected for 2 more terms.

Simple, huh ?

 

[LunarRay]

I think the Amendment states 'elected'. Therefore, Bill could serve as Vice President.

"Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term." (22nd Amendment)

Having said that.... I think they'd make a great team. They would be electable more so than whomever the Dems have bouncing about at the moment.

I'd vote for them over anyone the Repubs having frothing at the mouth for '08.

 

[Looney]

Larry King asked Bill this, and he said the law isn't as clear as some people believe... but personally he believes it's against the spirit of the law.

 

[Soggysocks]

:Q

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Hardcore
Larry King asked Bill this, and he said the law isn't as clear as some people believe... but personally he believes it's against the spirit of the law.

Against the spirit of the law... the spirit of the law is what is contained in it... specifics.. If it does specifically exclude by virtue of using the term 'elected' and I presume the authors had the wisdom to include other language that could have dealt with the topic's potential but did not that the spirit of the law does not exclude a former twice elected president from holding the VP slot and becoming president if the situation arose.

 

[Slick5150]

He absolutely could be vice president. The 10 year limit has no bearing on that.

However, if he were required to assume the role of President with more than 2 years left before the next election, he likely would not be allowed to do so (due to that putting him over 1o years).

Not that any of this is going to happen.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: Hardcore
Larry King asked Bill this, and he said the law isn't as clear as some people believe... but personally he believes it's against the spirit of the law.

Against the spirit of the law... the spirit of the law is what is contained in it... specifics.. If it does specifically exclude by virtue of using the term 'elected' and I presume the authors had the wisdom to include other language that could have dealt with the topic's potential but did not that the spirit of the law does not exclude a former twice elected president from holding the VP slot and becoming president if the situation arose.

The problem arises because the VP used to be directly elected. Now he is simpyl chosen as a running mate. Therefore, by the WORD of the constitution Bill wouldn't violate anything. He would not be elected to the VP, he would be chosen by the President. BUUUUT, the spirit of the law is clearly to limit the number of times somebody can serve in the highest offices of our country and the above argument would just circumvent it.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: Hardcore
Larry King asked Bill this, and he said the law isn't as clear as some people believe... but personally he believes it's against the spirit of the law.

Against the spirit of the law... the spirit of the law is what is contained in it... specifics.. If it does specifically exclude by virtue of using the term 'elected' and I presume the authors had the wisdom to include other language that could have dealt with the topic's potential but did not that the spirit of the law does not exclude a former twice elected president from holding the VP slot and becoming president if the situation arose.

The problem arises because the VP used to be directly elected. Now he is simpyl chosen as a running mate. Therefore, by the WORD of the constitution Bill wouldn't violate anything. He would not be elected to the VP, he would be chosen by the President. BUUUUT, the spirit of the law is clearly to limit the number of times somebody can serve in the highest offices of our country and the above argument would just circumvent it.

I disagree.
The 'ticket' includes both as 'running mates'. You elect one you elect the other as well. There is no means to 'choose' a person to serve as Vice President with out involving the Congress. Clearly they are not involved so the VP is elected.
The spirit of the law is to limit the number of times a person can be elected to the Presidency. Gaining that office by other means could have been addressed but was not.
Regarding the poster and the 10 year rule....
The 10 year rule.. not sure where that is contained in the 22nd Amendment. I know it is not in the Articles... least ways I don't think it is.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Presidential Term Limits were imposed when Rosevelt was elected to a 4th term.
In will NOT be repealed - in our lifetime.

'Foreign born' already has a caveat that 'IF' the person was born in a U.S. Possesion, military base,
child born of American Citizens while in a foriegn country on official U.S. Business . . , ect.

I don't think it would be in the best interest of our nation to change the constitution just because
the Goobernator could win a popularity contest. It was set up to keep outside influences and
foreign family pressures out of the political system.

Do you think that Putin or Tony Blair should be considered as elligible for presidency of the U.S. ?
Don't think so.

How about any random Tusanmi survivor, or someone who washed up on the beach in Florida,
or sneeks across the border from Mexico or Canada. The Emir of UAE is our 'friend' how about him ?

There is one other 'anomoly' about being President - it's 'Being Elected' to the office.
Lyndon Johnson COULD have been elected to a second term, and since he replaced
Kennedy he completed that term before he was elected to his 'Fisrt' term.
Mechenisms are in place so that a President could conceiveably serve for 3 full terms, providing
that the persident that had been elected were to expire before the inaugration - the Vice President
becomes the President, and is still eligible to be elected for 2 more terms.

Simple, huh ?

You would still have to be a citizen...and you could make it that they have to have lived here at least 30 years or something...not that difficult or complicated.