If I point a gun at someone and they have a heartattack, is it considered murder?

[BigCoolJesus]

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Ask the jury.

FTW!!!

 

[Rubycon]

Cause and effect.

If you yell fire in a packed theater and there is a stampede and five people die you will be held responsible.

 

[PrinceofWands]

That's not enough info. Was there just cause for lethal force? If so then it's a justifiable homicide and not a crime. Otherwise I'd guess you're looking at some form of manslaughter.

 

[Smackem]

It would be impossible to prove that you were directly responsible for the heart attack. It coulda just been that guys time to go.

 

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: kogase
No, it's not your fault they ate McDonalds.

Hey. Don't be stereotypical. I eat healthy, work out every day, but have rapid pulse and high blood pressure. This in itself (even though i take meds!) COULD cause me to have a heart attack. But where did I go wrong?

Oh, and don't mention ANYTHING about me being in bed with another women, sex, not making moves, etc.

I mean this seriously.

 

[Epic Fail]

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Cause and effect.

If you yell fire in a packed theater and there is a stampede and five people die you will be held responsible.

You'll be responsible, but there will be debate on murder or manslaughter.

 

[NTB]

One thing I've never understood...why is suicide illegal? If you succeed in commiting the crime, what are they going to do to you?

 

[NTB]

Originally posted by: yamadakun

Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Cause and effect.

If you yell fire in a packed theater and there is a stampede and five people die you will be held responsible.

You'll be responsible, but there will be debate on murder or manslaughter.

And that's only because plain ol' stupidity isn't a punishable crime

Nate

 

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: NTB
One thing I've never understood...why is suicide illegal? If you succeed in commiting the crime, what are they going to do to you?

Thats like those signs:

"Danger, High Voltage, Instant death. $200 fine."

 

[NTB]

Originally posted by: mjuszczak

Originally posted by: NTB
One thing I've never understood...why is suicide illegal? If you succeed in commiting the crime, what are they going to do to you?

Thats like those signs:

"Danger, High Voltage, Instant death. $200 fine."

I think, on the off chance that you *do* survive, they ought to give you the $200

Nate

 

[Tu13erhead]

WHERE IS TEH POLL?!

 

[myusername]

Doesn't matter. You'd lose the civil suit and have to rob a bank to pay the bills and then you'd go to jail for that.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
You drive the getaway car in a bank robbery and stay in the car. During the robbery one of the other robbers kills a teller. Do you get charged with murder?

I believe in some states that is called "Felony Murder."

Here in Illinois it is.

 

[zanieladie]

Probably.

 

[SViper]

Originally posted by: rubix
yeah, he could miss the ground or something.

I seriously LOL'ed on that one. I'm glad no one else was in the office.

Anyway, back on topic. I would think the offender would be charged with manslaughter, not to mention brandishing(sp?) a weapon. Because someone is actually pointing the gun though, I don't think they would get off on involuntary manslaughter.

 

[EKKC]

no. manslaughter at best.
i think it all brings it down to what the intent of pointing at the gun at the person was, if you were Jack Bauer constantly saving the world and you pointed a gun at a guy just so he can go to the safe deposit box to implicate the President of the USA in the assassination of a former president, then i guess its alright, even if he dropped dead because he was too scared and too fat.

 

[DaShen]

Manslaughter, plus some other charges, like conspiracy to commit murder.

If you let the person die, while they are having a heart attack, and they prove it, you could get murder though.

**EDIT**
But this second part is hard to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt.

 

[Axoliien]

You pull a gun on a person and they run, they start to wheeze and have a heart attack but run into traffic and get hit by a car that flips trying to keep from hitting him, spilling gas everywhere and igniting. The extreme heat and smoke smothers the man's lungs, and he dies. Do you still get murder?

 

[EKKC]

Originally posted by: Axoliien
You pull a gun on a person and they run, they start to wheeze and have a heart attack but run into traffic and get hit by a car that flips trying to keep from hitting him, spilling gas everywhere and igniting. The extreme heat and smoke smothers the man's lungs, and he dies. Do you still get murder?

no. if this happened in new york, here's what would happen:
the guy driving the car could get negligent assault?
and the maker of the auto can get sued?
also, gas company get sued for selling flammable liquid?
and the EMTs on the scene also get sued for slow arrival.
but the person with the gun, no charges filed.

 

[MaxDepth]

Aggravated assault

 

[Biggerhammer]

In NH, that's murder one. You did a crime and the person died.

You can actually get five murder ones out of one killing, here. One for murder, one for theft, one for kidnapping, one for rape, and one other that I can't remember.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: chambersc

Originally posted by: her209
I say no...

either way, you caused their murder and will go to jail. the sentence is irrelevant.

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
You drive the getaway car in a bank robbery and stay in the car. During the robbery one of the other robbers kills a teller. Do you get charged with murder?

I believe in some states that is called "Felony Murder."

From what I recall from law school (or Law & Order or NYPD Blue), felony murder is when someone dies during the commission of a felony. So, in the case in the subject, someone died during the course of an assault with a deadly weapon. That's most certainly felony murder, assuming the state jurisdiction in question has that definition.

 

[Lorax]

since peter parker didn't stop the thief that later killed his uncle, is he therefore responsible for the death of his uncle?

with great power comes great responsibility.

 

[Psycho18]

Originally posted by: Lorax
since peter parker didn't stop the thief that later killed his uncle, is he therefore responsible for the death of his uncle?

with great power comes great responsibility.

rofl....