If I take a second job, can I afford a new car?

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tortillasoup

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People do think about their future these days but I don't and never have. I lost my girlfriend and kids years ago and recently lost my mom so I know how short life really is. I just want to have some fun while I can. I was close to starting my own business but my girlfriend who was soon to be my fiance die and I haven't recover ever since. She was my soulmate, she was everything to me. After abandoning the business we just started, I decided to go back to college and become a nurse. 2 years later my mom passed away and the way she die being in the ICU made it impossible for me to become a nurse with so much PTSD off so many deaths.

I love my CR-V, it my first car and you never forget your first. Though I probably should have spend a little more for the FJ Cruiser. Regardless if I'm going to be wasting gas, I rather be wasting gas having fun instead. I only plan on having one car.

Thanks for the replies, sorry about the brief history of my life. Just had to put it in there so people can understand my perspective and how I view my life.

The FJ Cruiser is a goofy and impractical vehicle for most people. You did fine with the CR-V. If you want a "fun" car, there is no reason why you can't get a used car that is relatively fast and not a maintenance nightmare. Check out a 2012+ Scion TC , it's fairly sporty, efficiency is good.
 

thehotsung8701A

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The FJ Cruiser is a goofy and impractical vehicle for most people. You did fine with the CR-V. If you want a "fun" car, there is no reason why you can't get a used car that is relatively fast and not a maintenance nightmare. Check out a 2012+ Scion TC , it's fairly sporty, efficiency is good.

I love the look of the FJ Cruiser because it remind me of the Legendary Toyota Land Cruiser mix with the aggressive look of the Hummer. I may have made the right choice with the CR-V (soccer mom car) but I don't really love it. There is no exterior mod that make the CR-V badass looking. I wanted to add a front grill and bumper to it but it still wouldn't be the same. Not to mention there are so many CRV with the same grey color as mine which makes me feel like driving my dad Camry...yuck.

As for your recommendation, I never like the look of any Asian sport cars other than the Nissan GTR and the new Mazda 3 and Miata.
 
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nOOky

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By all means, take a second job and enjoy the new car if that's what you want! Let us know how it goes, and post pictures when you get it. You don't need internet approval from people you don't know you at all to go get it.

People do think about their future these days but I don't and never have. I lost my girlfriend and kids years ago and recently lost my mom so I know how short life really is. I just want to have some fun while I can. I was close to starting my own business but my girlfriend who was soon to be my fiance die and I haven't recover ever since. She was my soulmate, she was everything to me. After abandoning the business we just started, I decided to go back to college and become a nurse. 2 years later my mom passed away and the way she die being in the ICU made it impossible for me to become a nurse with so much PTSD off so many deaths.

I love my CR-V, it my first car and you never forget your first. Though I probably should have spend a little more for the FJ Cruiser. Regardless if I'm going to be wasting gas, I rather be wasting gas having fun instead. I only plan on having one car.

Thanks for the replies, sorry about the brief history of my life. Just had to put it in there so people can understand my perspective and how I view my life.
 
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thehotsung8701A

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Guys,

This thread just did a 180 degree turn. I am no longer considering the Shelby GT350 because it just not practical and it just not money smart. I will never make full use of what that car is capable and even people I know who have fast cars don't take it to the racing tracks as often as they can.

60K (12K markup from MSRP) plus insurance premium + maintenance + speeding tickets + anti-threat security is really breaking the bank and the last thing I want to do is be in debts. Like someone said, If I take a 2nd job, I'll be more tire and have less time to enjoy life. Then there other factors that I didn't consider cause I was so impress by the power and torque and overall appeal of the GT350 that I forgot one important thing. What the point of driving a manual car if gear 1 can reach 55mph because that would be the same as driving an automatic and defeat the purpose of driving a manual and for that reason, there is no point in buying a GT350 no matter how fast and powerful it is.

So I went back to the drawing board and want to look for a new car that what intended purpose it use I will reach it limit. With a GT350, I may go to the track twice a month but I won't really be able to have that much fun on the road for obvious reason. And there only two obvious choice that I am considering with the first being my 2nd choice to buy and that is the 2016 Nissan Miata at 24K to 30K MSRP base on trim level and my 3rd choice being the Suburu BRZ/Scion FRS at around similar price points.

Both cars are far less than half the price of the GT350 with way better gas mileage, handling, and is a daily driver that one can make full use off. I'm still waiting for the hardtop Miata before I make a decision but I'm so excited. The prospect of finally owning my first new car that I can realistically buy without going into loan or debt is exhilarating and kind of defeat the purpose of the thread title now that I think about it.

I think the gas saving alone is worth it. I get about 16/20 in my Honda CRV because it is old while a new Miata can give me 27/34 which just feel so much better for my wallet.
 

Kaido

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Guys,

This thread just did a 180 degree turn. I am no longer considering the Shelby GT350 because it just not practical and it just not money smart. I will never make full use of what that car is capable and even people I know who have fast cars don't take it to the racing tracks as often as they can.

I'm a big fan of the new Mustang & almost got one (opted for a 4WD Jeep instead due to winter driving requirements here, but would still like to get one in the future). Have you considered the Ecoboost model? You get a 310 HP out of the door (and turbo!), plus lots of room to expand with aftermarket kits from MAP, COBB, etc. I actually like the Ecoboost system more than the V8 for expansion because of all of the stuff you can do to it. One guy put $44k (including vehicle cost) into his Ecoboost & has it pulling 600 HP on the dyno:

http://www.mustang6g.com/?p=8821

The nice thing is that a base Ecoboost starts at literally half the cost of a GT350, which means half the car payment, which is easier on the budget & leaves more room for future modifications. So if you can live without the Shelby badge, this might be a good route for you to go. My buddy delivers pizzas on weekends & makes about $60 a night (including tips), so you'd only have to work a couple evenings a week to cover the bill if you are still willing to get a second job. Not too bad!
 

Kaido

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I think the gas saving alone is worth it. I get about 16/20 in my Honda CRV because it is old while a new Miata can give me 27/34 which just feel so much better for my wallet.

If you like the aesthetics of the BRZ, then you'll really like the new Miata. A few guys in my town picked them up. Looks really nice, especially in black!
 

monkeydelmagico

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For the price of the first year depreciation on a GT350 you can have a 2002-04 Mustang GT. It is a rocket ship compared to your CRV. Doesn't dance as nimble as a Miata. If the Miata is more your style it's fairly easy to find inexpensive and decent used examples of those too. Both are robust, easy to work on, and don't usually need a lot of work or money to keep running.

No second job required and you get time to actually enjoy it.
 

Yuriman

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Jun 25, 2004
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Personally, I'd love to drive a Miata around. I love convertibles.
 

thehotsung8701A

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I'm a big fan of the new Mustang & almost got one (opted for a 4WD Jeep instead due to winter driving requirements here, but would still like to get one in the future). Have you considered the Ecoboost model? You get a 310 HP out of the door (and turbo!), plus lots of room to expand with aftermarket kits from MAP, COBB, etc. I actually like the Ecoboost system more than the V8 for expansion because of all of the stuff you can do to it. One guy put $44k (including vehicle cost) into his Ecoboost & has it pulling 600 HP on the dyno:

http://www.mustang6g.com/?p=8821

The nice thing is that a base Ecoboost starts at literally half the cost of a GT350, which means half the car payment, which is easier on the budget & leaves more room for future modifications. So if you can live without the Shelby badge, this might be a good route for you to go. My buddy delivers pizzas on weekends & makes about $60 a night (including tips), so you'd only have to work a couple evenings a week to cover the bill if you are still willing to get a second job. Not too bad!

The Ecoboost was actually the last Mustang I look at mainly because it seem like the Ecoboost is only a Mustang by look but not by performance. I can actually still afford a 350GT without needing a second job after consulting with my dad and he didn't realize how much money I made with my rent and utilities already pay off. The only reason I'm thinking of getting a second job is cause I'm responsible and like to be safe money wise. I wouldn't be in debt even if I bought a 350GT and without a 2nd and still have tons of unuse money left over.

And like yourself, I find the 2016 Mustang to look absolutely stunning as I was still iffy about older model design. Something about the side that feel cheap especially the small back window but the 2016 Mustang with it re-design is amazing looking even if it not that much different, its a very nice update. Probably should call it an update and not a re-design.

Though one thing I find very odd is that no 2016 Mustang has a sunroof while my old CRV does. That doesn't seem like your getting values for your money though I do like the fact that they all come with backup camera no matter the trim level.
 

Sulaco

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Mar 28, 2003
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Guys,

This thread just did a 180 degree turn. I am no longer considering the Shelby GT350 because it just not practical and it just not money smart. I will never make full use of what that car is capable and even people I know who have fast cars don't take it to the racing tracks as often as they can.

60K (12K markup from MSRP) plus insurance premium + maintenance + speeding tickets + anti-threat security is really breaking the bank and the last thing I want to do is be in debts. Like someone said, If I take a 2nd job, I'll be more tire and have less time to enjoy life. Then there other factors that I didn't consider cause I was so impress by the power and torque and overall appeal of the GT350 that I forgot one important thing. What the point of driving a manual car if gear 1 can reach 55mph because that would be the same as driving an automatic and defeat the purpose of driving a manual and for that reason, there is no point in buying a GT350 no matter how fast and powerful it is.

So I went back to the drawing board and want to look for a new car that what intended purpose it use I will reach it limit. With a GT350, I may go to the track twice a month but I won't really be able to have that much fun on the road for obvious reason. And there only two obvious choice that I am considering with the first being my 2nd choice to buy and that is the 2016 Nissan Miata at 24K to 30K MSRP base on trim level and my 3rd choice being the Suburu BRZ/Scion FRS at around similar price points.

Both cars are far less than half the price of the GT350 with way better gas mileage, handling, and is a daily driver that one can make full use off. I'm still waiting for the hardtop Miata before I make a decision but I'm so excited. The prospect of finally owning my first new car that I can realistically buy without going into loan or debt is exhilarating and kind of defeat the purpose of the thread title now that I think about it.

I think the gas saving alone is worth it. I get about 16/20 in my Honda CRV because it is old while a new Miata can give me 27/34 which just feel so much better for my wallet.

I didn't even know Nissan was still making the Miata!

Those are damn rare cars! If you can find one, I'd snatch it up. Ever since Jeep stopped making the Corvette, I've been on the lookout for one. That, and the Datsun S2000.
 

thehotsung8701A

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If you like the aesthetics of the BRZ, then you'll really like the new Miata. A few guys in my town picked them up. Looks really nice, especially in black!

I have always prefer the mean look of an American muscle car over a Japanese sleeker car but if I were to buy a true looking Japanese drifter, the BRZ is one that look good modded and without mod. I like the look of the Miata too but I still think the current Mustang look the best.

I have to see a black Miata in person because right now I want red.

Miata and BRZ make more sense to me than Mustang because I live on coastal and mountain curvy road. HWY 17 is one of the most dangerous highway and it extremely curvy and is what the Miata/BRZ is intended for whereas the Mustang is more for straight line speed. I also always prefer to take curvy road even if it take longer than straight road. I do want a Mustang for straight road when I drive home to Socal and back but unfortunately I can only choose one cause I'm not rich. If I were I'll choose the best of both world and get a Mercedes AMG GTS but that the price of 5 Miatas and more.

For my intended purpose, I feel Miata/BRZ is slighty more right for me than Mustang. I am also planning on moving to CO so it just make so much sense to buy a drifter.
 

Kaido

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The Ecoboost was actually the last Mustang I look at mainly because it seem like the Ecoboost is only a Mustang by look but not by performance. I can actually still afford a 350GT without needing a second job after consulting with my dad and he didn't realize how much money I made with my rent and utilities already pay off. The only reason I'm thinking of getting a second job is cause I'm responsible and like to be safe money wise. I wouldn't be in debt even if I bought a 350GT and without a 2nd and still have tons of unuse money left over.

And like yourself, I find the 2016 Mustang to look absolutely stunning as I was still iffy about older model design. Something about the side that feel cheap especially the small back window but the 2016 Mustang with it re-design is amazing looking even if it not that much different, its a very nice update. Probably should call it an update and not a re-design.

Though one thing I find very odd is that no 2016 Mustang has a sunroof while my old CRV does. That doesn't seem like your getting values for your money though I do like the fact that they all come with backup camera no matter the trim level.

I test-drove the Ecoboost a couple time & it's definitely a very fun car...waaaaaay more power than a BRZ. Plus you can boost it to 400, 500, 600 horsepower down the road. And I'm with you...I think the previous-gen Mustangs look like dustbusters, didn't care for the design at all, but they tweaked the sixth-gen Mustang aesthetics with just the right amount of retro lines that I ended up falling in love with it. Plus I'm six feet tall & it's one of the few cars that fit me really well (surprisingly). As far as sunroofs, a few people have added aftermarket sunroofs, so it's still an option if you don't mind a third-party installation.
 

gorcorps

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For my intended purpose, I feel Miata/BRZ is slighty more right for me than Mustang. I am also planning on moving to CO so it just make so much sense to buy a drifter.

Wait... hold on. You plan on moving to a state that already has some fairly tricky roads to navigate if you're mountain driving, and adding to that some very irregular weather that gives you snow storms all the way into May... and your one and only vehicle is going to be a RWD sports car?

My recommendation is to stay away from Colorado. The times you will be able to utilize the Miata would be so limited you'll wonder why you bothered.
 

thomsbrain

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That's really mean. I mean he'll come out ahead in fuel savings alone if he keeps the new car 17 years assuming fuel prices remain at current rates.

Since he doesn't understand the basics of driving a manual transmission, he's clearly very young, he wants to buy the Miata or BRZ because he wants a "drifter," and he plans to drive it in the snow, I think we can safely predict that the car will not still be around in 17 years.

This kid needs an NA Miata with a salvage title, a Hard Dog roll bar, and to join his local Miata club so he can learn about cars, learn about driving, and learn some common sense before he puts one foot on a new-car sales lot. When he smashes it into a tree on week 3, it will be a much cheaper learning experience and he can junk it without even reporting it to his insurance.
 

deathBOB

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There's a good chance that the Shelby won't experience significant depreciation. Your total cost to own the car may be not be that much.
 

thehotsung8701A

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Since he doesn't understand the basics of driving a manual transmission, he's clearly very young, he wants to buy the Miata or BRZ because he wants a "drifter," and he plans to drive it in the snow, I think we can safely predict that the car will not still be around in 17 years.

This kid needs an NA Miata with a salvage title, a Hard Dog roll bar, and to join his local Miata club so he can learn about cars, learn about driving, and learn some common sense before he puts one foot on a new-car sales lot. When he smashes it into a tree on week 3, it will be a much cheaper learning experience and he can junk it without even reporting it to his insurance.

17 years of driving, no accidents and perfect record. No speeding ticket either. Hell not even a single parking ticket. Not a "kid". Though thank you for the insults.....

Also doesn't understand the basic of driving a manual despite the fact the only time I ever drive an automatic is my dad Camry and that because he has bad back and can't be driven in a manual and that was over 10 years ago. I never said I want to be a drifter, I said the prospect is fun meaning I can take it to the track and have fun. I couldn't even hit a tree if I tried, my knowledge of driving and experience prevented me from doing so. It like having your own warning single in your head. Not to mention my first manual was a crappy VW Beetle (Kerby) that not only have awful shifter and clutch but also had bad brakes. And back then cars didn't have all of the newer technology that help guide bad drivers nowadays like automatic lane assist, automatic parking, automatic brake detection, rear and side view cameras, back up camera, etc... Oh and I know how to read a damn map too.

Then there the possibility that I may move to Colorado once I find a job and not before. I am not dumb to drive a RWD Miata in the snow. I don't know if any "kids" that is not rich is that dumb either. If I move to Colorado, I can keep my AWD SUV. Only reason I can't have two cars here is cause the neighbor are a _______ and I'm only allow to have one car due to my work place policy.

Okay I think that cover all of your assumption.
 

nakedfrog

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Between this thread and your identity crisis thread, I think maybe some counseling would be money well spent.
That and an NA/NB Miata.
 

Yuriman

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Between this thread and your identity crisis thread, I think maybe some counseling would be money well spent.
That and an NA/NB Miata.

I agree with Miata.

@OP, it was just suspicious that you were talking about 55mph in first gear. Just because an engine has a tall gear and a high redline, that doesn't mean you should drive around in first gear. You'll blow the engine in a few weeks, tops.

If that's not what you meant, it was a very strange comment.
 

SearchMaster

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I would seriously recommend against it. If you have no other debts it's not the dumbest thing ever, but you should value your free time more than just working to pay for something you hardly ever use.

If it's something you still believe you want to do, why don't you get that second job without the car and do it for a year and save the money? If you still don't feel like it's a burden, take the money you saved and buy a lightly used version of whatever car you want (not the GT350, but a Miata, Vette, etc.) and it'll be half (or better yet, completely) paid off at that point.

Human nature will cause you to soon get "comfortable" with whatever you get. Sure you'll still love it but it won't hold that same special appeal after a year as it does when you first get it, and if you're still having to bust your ass just to keep it, it will start feeling like a burden instead of a blessing.

BTW I'm very sorry to hear of your losses. Expensive purchases are sometimes used to help cushion the pain of such losses but they tend to be temporary.
 

evident

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i realized that even with my IS350 I can't push it as much as I want to. I can't even imagine how people with IS-F, CTS-V, M3, Mustang GT350 etc feel with all that power and no where to go. luckily my IS350 handles on rails and is so much fun on twisty roads. 306HP is plenty for me.... for now
 

postmortemIA

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i realized that even with my IS350 I can't push it as much as I want to. I can't even imagine how people with IS-F, CTS-V, M3, Mustang GT350 etc feel with all that power and no where to go. luckily my IS350 handles on rails and is so much fun on twisty roads. 306HP is plenty for me.... for now

They become biggest jerks on the road trying to cut everybody just to be ahead one car length at the stoplight.
 
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