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[mpitts]

Originally posted by: cronic
It is so stpuid to speculate about UM being so much better than UF. You simply don't know that. What we do know FOR A FACT is that OSU is better than UM.

UM's claim to play for the title is popycock. You simply DO NOT DESERVE TO PLAY BASED ON THE FACTS!

And when you get to play LSU and lose, you will know what a good team from a great conference is all about.

What is so great about the SEC this year? Please enlighten me. I live in Atlanta and all I hear about year round is that the SEC is god's gift to college football. Sorry, there isn't a single dominant offense or dominant defense in the SEC this year.

 

[erub]

A rematch would be pointless. Who wants to see that? I don't buy the argument that the environment hurt Michigan that much. My team, Texas A&M, lost two close ones at home in packed, crazy Kyle Field, to Oklahoma and Nebraska, then went into Austin and beat Texas, a team supposably much better than the others (and who had beaten them both, one on a neutral field and one on the road). Road teams win all the time, when they are better. Its not like Michigan wasn't jacked up enough going into Columbus, it is a rivalry game after all.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: cronic
It is so stpuid to speculate about UM being so much better than UF. You simply don't know that. What we do know FOR A FACT is that OSU is better than UM.

UM's claim to play for the title is popycock. You simply DO NOT DESERVE TO PLAY BASED ON THE FACTS!

And when you get to play LSU and lose, you will know what a good team from a great conference is all about.

What is so great about the SEC this year? Please enlighten me. I live in Atlanta and all I hear about year round is that the SEC is god's gift to college football. Sorry, there isn't a single dominant offense or dominant defense in the SEC this year.

5 Teams in the top 17?

From last weeks AP;
Florida - 4
LSU - 5
Arkansas - 8
Auburn - 11
Tennessee - 17

 

[RatDog]

Who has the SEC beaten out of conference? Cal? Hawaii? Florida State?

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: cronic
It is so stpuid to speculate about UM being so much better than UF. You simply don't know that. What we do know FOR A FACT is that OSU is better than UM.

UM's claim to play for the title is popycock. You simply DO NOT DESERVE TO PLAY BASED ON THE FACTS!

And when you get to play LSU and lose, you will know what a good team from a great conference is all about.

What is so great about the SEC this year? Please enlighten me. I live in Atlanta and all I hear about year round is that the SEC is god's gift to college football. Sorry, there isn't a single dominant offense or dominant defense in the SEC this year.

5 Teams in the top 17?

From last weeks AP;
Florida - 4
LSU - 5
Arkansas - 8
Auburn - 11
Tennessee - 17

So who has the best offense in the SEC? Who has the best defense? Who has the best balance?

I pray that Michigan plays LSU and OSU plays Florida. Then, when Michigan and OSU win, people with their lips firmly attached to the weenie of the SEC can stand down for one minute and give some credit to a conference other than their own.

 

[slightlyhuman]

< pissed about arkansas loosing

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: RatDog
Who has the SEC beaten out of conference? Cal? Hawaii? Florida State?

Cal is the biggest non-conference win of any SEC school. Maybe Georgia Tech (GA).

The out of conference schedules for the SEC schools are a joke. Look at the out of conference schedule for Florida, Auburn, LSU and Arkansas.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: RatDog

Originally posted by: cronic
It is so stpuid to speculate about UM being so much better than UF. You simply don't know that. What we do know FOR A FACT is that OSU is better than UM.

UM's claim to play for the title is popycock. You simply DO NOT DESERVE TO PLAY BASED ON THE FACTS!

And when you get to play LSU and lose, you will know what a good team from a great conference is all about.

What are these "facts" you speak of? And if UM doesn't go to the title game then they will be in the Rose Bowl versus USC. I would love to play LSU though. Then we could find out who the better conference is. OSU vs Fla. UM vs LSU. Wisc vs Ark. That would be a great slate of games.

And TN currently predicted to play Penn State.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: RatDog
Who has the SEC beaten out of conference? Cal? Hawaii? Florida State?

Cal is the biggest non-conference win of any SEC school. Maybe Georgia Tech (GA).

The out of conference schedules for the SEC schools are a joke. Look at the out of conference schedule for Florida, Auburn, LSU and Arkansas.

And what of the Big 10? Notre Dame is overrated so that leaves Texas. All of the big conferences have jokes of out of conference schedule so that argument is worthless anyway. Look at Wisconsin's ooc schedule. It is possibly the most horrid I have ever seen.

 

[w3stfa11]

I can't believe people are forgetting that UM vs OSU is the greatest college sports rivalry there is! The November 18 game was exciting and classic. Imagine a championship game between them on neutral ground with all at stake. It doesn't get much better than that. It certainly will be better than OSU vs UF.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Oh god now the 'my rivalry greater than yours!' arguments get to start.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: cronic
And even with playing WCU they still have the toughest schedule in the country.

Your arugment about playing WCU and stregth of schedule is based on fallacies.

PERIOD.

UF vs. OSU is the only logical choice.

If OSU plays UM again and UM was to win then they both have 1 loss, and if UF beat ND then they have 1 loss, SO the NT would have to be split between 3 schools. Absolutly retarded.

That's not how it works.

What don't you UM fans realize:
1. You lost against OSU 2 weeks ago!

They lost to the best team in the country. This proves that they're NOT the second best team in the country?

2. You didn't even win your conference.

Not a criterion for choosing the teams that go to the NCG. The two best teams in the country go to the NCG.

3. You lost your last game of the season.

Perhaps the stupidest part of the BCS - a loss at the end of the season hurts you more than a loss in the middle of the season.

4. UF is 12-1 in the toughest conference in the country with the toughest schedule.

This is a good point. However it wasn't THAT much tougher than Michigan's.

5. UF is the SEC Chapion.

See above.

If UM vs. OSU II happens, the BCS is saying that a 2nd place tem in the Big10 is better than the conference chapion of the SEC, which is the toughest conference in the country.
Does that make any sense at all? NO!

It's possible. What's interesting is that I hear a lot of reasons why Michigan shouldn't be in the NCG. They've already played OSU, they're in the same conference as OSU, they didn't win their conference, etc, etc. Not nearly as many people are saying Florida should be in the NCG because they're a better team than UM. That's pretty telling, I think.

If you look at the facts, and only the facts, it is clear that UF deserves to play for a national championship. All you UM supporters have to offer are what ifs, fallacies, and specutation.

In the post above, you've also offered what ifs, fallacies and speculation.

 

[RollWave]

Michigan OSU would be boring to watch again. I was never one for espn classic

 

[w3stfa11]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Oh god now the 'my rivalry greater than yours!' arguments get to start.

I'm just saying, people are saying they'd rather see OSU-UF, which I find just mind-boggling.

 

[Plasdom]

One of the greatest rivalries in the history of college football. One team is smarting from a narrow loss in one of the biggest games in said rivalry and out for revenge. Who said a rematch will be boring?
That said, I think FL will probably get in, instead of MI. But I think Michigan should plan in the championship game.

 

[dogooder]

Florida is #2 in the coaches' poll.

What's interesting is Wisconsin is #5, and yet they can't play in any of the 5 BCS games. Scandalous.

 

[Mo0o]

Florida had a tougher schedule and UM. and people have already seen OSU-Michigan play.

 

[Alkaline5]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: cronic
And even with playing WCU they still have the toughest schedule in the country.

Your arugment about playing WCU and stregth of schedule is based on fallacies.

PERIOD.

UF vs. OSU is the only logical choice.

If OSU plays UM again and UM was to win then they both have 1 loss, and if UF beat ND then they have 1 loss, SO the NT would have to be split between 3 schools. Absolutly retarded.

That's not how it works.

What don't you UM fans realize:
1. You lost against OSU 2 weeks ago!

They lost to the best team in the country. This proves that they're NOT the second best team in the country?

Following your logic: Michigan lost to the best team in the country. Therefore Michigan can NOT be the best team in the country. True? They should be eliminated from the discussion for that reason. Their loss neither proves nor disproves that they are second, only that they can't possibly be first as of today.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Following your logic: Michigan lost to the best team in the country. Therefore Michigan can NOT be the best team in the country. True? They should be eliminated from the discussion for that reason. Their loss neither proves nor disproves that they are second, only that they can't possibly be first as of today.

They don't have to be the best team in the country to play in the NCG, they only have to be the second best.

 

[meltdown75]

Go Blue. Just win your frickin' bowl game. Don't leave you D at home this time.

 

[Alkaline5]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Following your logic: Michigan lost to the best team in the country. Therefore Michigan can NOT be the best team in the country. True? They should be eliminated from the discussion for that reason. Their loss neither proves nor disproves that they are second, only that they can't possibly be first as of today.

They don't have to be the best team in the country to play in the NCG, they only have to be the second best.

Yes, but the second best team may or may not be Michigan. We already know that UM isn't the best team in the country, so why not see if UF can do any better for themselves.

 

[RatDog]

Originally posted by: Alkaline5

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Following your logic: Michigan lost to the best team in the country. Therefore Michigan can NOT be the best team in the country. True? They should be eliminated from the discussion for that reason. Their loss neither proves nor disproves that they are second, only that they can't possibly be first as of today.

They don't have to be the best team in the country to play in the NCG, they only have to be the second best.

Yes, but the second best team may or may not be Michigan. We already know that UM isn't the best team in the country, so why not see if UF can do any better for themselves.

We only know that Michigan is not better than OSU in Columbus. Home field advantage is worth something. Even computer rankings that give score predictions give 3 or 4 points to home team.

 

[dogooder]

Oy, Florida #2 in the AP poll, too (by 3 points).

 

[Poulsonator]

Seriously, why would anyone want a rematch???? It's never been more clear this year than right now which two conferences are the best. The Big 10 and SEC. Why wouldn't you want to pit the best team from the Big 10 against the best team from the SEC to determine the champ?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Alkaline5

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Following your logic: Michigan lost to the best team in the country. Therefore Michigan can NOT be the best team in the country. True? They should be eliminated from the discussion for that reason. Their loss neither proves nor disproves that they are second, only that they can't possibly be first as of today.

They don't have to be the best team in the country to play in the NCG, they only have to be the second best.

Yes, but the second best team may or may not be Michigan. We already know that UM isn't the best team in the country, so why not see if UF can do any better for themselves.

I just think that the teams should be evaluated on their own merits, not based on whether or not they've already had the opportunity to play the top team in the country already. I really wouldn't be disappointed either way. I think it'd be great if Michigan played USC in the Rose Bowl. I think if that happened, there would be more interest in that game than in the OSU-UF game.