If marijuana was legalized for recreational use...

[Titan]

I would not smoke it, and grow a ton of it to make the cheapest biodiesel in the world.
from youtube

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Never tried it, do not plan to try it even if it is legalized. But, feel free to light them up because I do not care.

 

[coldmeat]

I imagine it would hurt my chances of becoming a police officer in a few years even if it was legalized, so I would probably avoid it.

However, if it didn't make a difference, I would probably smoke it.

 

[EGGO]

I don't smoke cigarettes despite being legal; I don't see why I'd do the same for weed.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Well if marijuana became legal for recreational use, how would it affect your view on it?

I don't have any moral or ethical objection to it people possessing or using the drug. However, our current laws say it's illegal so I object to people having it based on the law. If the current laws were removed then I wouldn't have any problem with people having or using it.

Before all else I believe we must be a nation of laws.

 

[SlitheryDee]

I don't do anything that's illegal, and that includes MJ. I would use it if it were legal, but only within the bounds of the law (e.g. Not before or while driving, around minors, etc.).

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles
I firmly believe weed should be legalized, but I don't smoke now and I wouldn't start smoking if it were legal.

I agree with Beau.

 

[InflatableBuddha]

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Well if marijuana became legal for recreational use, how would it affect your view on it?

I don't have any moral or ethical objection to it people possessing or using the drug. However, our current laws say it's illegal so I object to people having it based on the law. If the current laws were removed then I wouldn't have any problem with people having or using it.

Before all else I believe we must be a nation of laws.

How do you think unjust, illogical laws are changed? Certainly not by people sitting idly by and hoping for the government to come to its senses.

Certainly we need laws in order to avoid anarchy, but when laws are unjust, we must lobby against them, engage in civil disobedience, etc.

If we all waited for laws to change, men would still be allowed to beat their wives, women could not vote, and ethnic minorities would still be segregated.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: wade3
Factory manufactured doobies would be awesome

I royally enjoyed an nearly endless number of them, at the government's expense. They were 100mm long, just like ciggies, and had a double red ring where the filter have gone, with a little red "M"! :laugh:

 

[oiprocs]

Would it really be lower prices?

I can find an eighth for about $40-45, maybe $50 if I want some real chronic.

How much do you think the government would charge for that same eighth? I doubt if they can go cheaper.

 

[Modelworks]

No effect.
If I really need something to relax I use Kava. It is already legal.

 

[ObiDon]

Originally posted by: scorpious
Would it really be lower prices?

I can find an eighth for about $40-45, maybe $50 if I want some real chronic.

How much do you think the government would charge for that same eighth? I doubt if they can go cheaper.

even if the government couldn't go cheaper, prices would probably still drop because the legal risk factor is gone. it's likely that there would be a lot more growers.

 

[Titan]

Originally posted by: Titan
I would not smoke it, and grow a ton of it to make the cheapest biodiesel in the world.
from youtube

Ignore the guy jumping up and down screaming we can save the world and go back to bickering about the finer points. Nothing new I guess.

Unlike tobacco cannabis grows everywhere, even in Canada, and it doesn't rape the soils like say, corn.

So if made legal the problem becomes how do you control it? People would have it in their garden. Massive supplies would come from local growers. Taxing it would be like taxing water. Sure, there would be a market for it for us lazy bastards, but no unreasonable tax would fly if private growing and possession were legal.
And the price would drop well below the 5-20 dollars a gram it is now.

EDIT: I have never smoked a thing in my life. And my hair is long enough to prove how clean I am for at least 2 years.

 

[krylon]

Originally posted by: EGGO
I don't smoke cigarettes despite being legal; I don't see why I'd do the same for weed.

 

[Regs]

Depends on who the manufacturer is mostly. =)

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Well if marijuana became legal for recreational use, how would it affect your view on it?

I don't have any moral or ethical objection to it people possessing or using the drug. However, our current laws say it's illegal so I object to people having it based on the law. If the current laws were removed then I wouldn't have any problem with people having or using it.

Before all else I believe we must be a nation of laws.

How do you think unjust, illogical laws are changed? Certainly not by people sitting idly by and hoping for the government to come to its senses.

Certainly we need laws in order to avoid anarchy, but when laws are unjust, we must lobby against them, engage in civil disobedience, etc.

If we all waited for laws to change, men would still be allowed to beat their wives, women could not vote, and ethnic minorities would still be segregated.

See, you have a moral or ethical stake in the legality of marijuana - I, as I have stated, do not. I do not feel the current laws are just or unjust and I don't make judgments about the moral or ethical implications of using or possessing the drug.

If you want to see the law changed, by all means, do whatever you can through legal channels to change it. I will say that I would have never supported the creation of the laws banning the drug however.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Well if marijuana became legal for recreational use, how would it affect your view on it?

I don't have any moral or ethical objection to it people possessing or using the drug. However, our current laws say it's illegal so I object to people having it based on the law. If the current laws were removed then I wouldn't have any problem with people having or using it.

Before all else I believe we must be a nation of laws.

How do you think unjust, illogical laws are changed? Certainly not by people sitting idly by and hoping for the government to come to its senses.

Certainly we need laws in order to avoid anarchy, but when laws are unjust, we must lobby against them, engage in civil disobedience, etc.

If we all waited for laws to change, men would still be allowed to beat their wives, women could not vote, and ethnic minorities would still be segregated.

See, you have a moral or ethical stake in the legality of marijuana - I, as I have stated, do not. I do not feel the current laws are just or unjust and I don't make judgments about the moral or ethical implications of using or possessing the drug.

If you want to see the law changed, by all means, do whatever you can through legal channels to change it. I will say that I would have never supported the creation of the laws banning the drug however.

Laws that are unjust require action to be taken. All the actions people have taken in regards to marijuana and the law have been peaceful, just... technically illegal due to the consumption of marijuana in the process.

However, there remains one far more potent issue here: the fact that the Federal government is even telling us what is legal and illegal in terms of drugs.
I am all for being a nation of laws. We also need to be a nation that follows its own guidelines accordingly. Sadly, voter apathy has gotten us into quite a mess, drug laws really just being a minor issue in comparison to other things.
My point being: federal regulations of drugs is not something that should even be present, it belongs at the state level according to the document our country is supposed to cherish. Except, well... our so called representatives have decided to give up that right with a large number of issues and hand it over to the Federal level.

 

[TechBoyJK]

I'm pretty sure the most popular bill in California still bans personal growth, at least to something like 2 plants, which is hardly enough for massive sale.

If you wanted to actually buy a couple of acres and farm it, they would make you pay a HUGE fee and taxes, basically a license.

This way, only licensed entities can sell it on the open market, entities that probably aren't in a position for tax evasion (big business/public companies).

This means you can grow a lil bit for yourself if you want to, but if you want some immediately, you need to go to a licensed distributor, which is taxing at a rate of $50 per ounce.

Pretty fair comprimise I think.

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Well if marijuana became legal for recreational use, how would it affect your view on it?

I don't have any moral or ethical objection to it people possessing or using the drug. However, our current laws say it's illegal so I object to people having it based on the law. If the current laws were removed then I wouldn't have any problem with people having or using it.

Before all else I believe we must be a nation of laws.

How do you think unjust, illogical laws are changed? Certainly not by people sitting idly by and hoping for the government to come to its senses.

Certainly we need laws in order to avoid anarchy, but when laws are unjust, we must lobby against them, engage in civil disobedience, etc.

If we all waited for laws to change, men would still be allowed to beat their wives, women could not vote, and ethnic minorities would still be segregated.

See, you have a moral or ethical stake in the legality of marijuana - I, as I have stated, do not. I do not feel the current laws are just or unjust and I don't make judgments about the moral or ethical implications of using or possessing the drug.

If you want to see the law changed, by all means, do whatever you can through legal channels to change it. I will say that I would have never supported the creation of the laws banning the drug however.

Well there are different schools of thought on law (Jurisprudence). Most here are normative that weigh the outcomes of passing a law, while others share more natural views like moral judgement and order and the intentions of "god".

 

[Electric Amish]

It depends on what business owners would do about drug testing.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I'm pretty sure the most popular bill in California still bans personal growth, at least to something like 2 plants, which is hardly enough for massive sale.

with the right growing techniques you can easily get a pound per plant.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Titan


Unlike tobacco cannabis grows everywhere, even in Canada, and it doesn't rape the soils like say, corn.

Also the hemp plants can be used for everything from cloth to paper to building materials . It could be another way to bring back industry. Other countries grow it for products but in the USA the licensing is so strict because of drug laws that not many bother to grow plants.

Hemp requires little to no pesticides, no herbicides, controls erosion of the topsoil, and produces oxygen. Furthermore, hemp can be used to replace many potentially harmful products, such as tree paper (the processing of which uses chlorine bleach, which results in the waste product polychlorinated dibensodioxins, popularly known as dioxins, which are carcinogenic, and contribute to deforestation), cosmetics, and plastics, most of which are petroleum-based and do not decompose easily. The strongest chemical needed to whiten the already light hemp paper is non-toxic hydrogen peroxide.

Industrial Hemp is produced in many countries around the world . Major producers include Canada, France, and China. While more hemp is exported to the United States than to any other country, the United States Government does not consistently distinguish between marijuana and the non-psychoactive Cannabis used for industrial and commercial purposes.

If we can't even grow the non-psychoactive plants for industry, then growing for drug use is way way off.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha

Originally posted by: iFX

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Well if marijuana became legal for recreational use, how would it affect your view on it?

I don't have any moral or ethical objection to it people possessing or using the drug. However, our current laws say it's illegal so I object to people having it based on the law. If the current laws were removed then I wouldn't have any problem with people having or using it.

Before all else I believe we must be a nation of laws.

How do you think unjust, illogical laws are changed? Certainly not by people sitting idly by and hoping for the government to come to its senses.

Certainly we need laws in order to avoid anarchy, but when laws are unjust, we must lobby against them, engage in civil disobedience, etc.

If we all waited for laws to change, men would still be allowed to beat their wives, women could not vote, and ethnic minorities would still be segregated.

See, you have a moral or ethical stake in the legality of marijuana - I, as I have stated, do not. I do not feel the current laws are just or unjust and I don't make judgments about the moral or ethical implications of using or possessing the drug.

If you want to see the law changed, by all means, do whatever you can through legal channels to change it. I will say that I would have never supported the creation of the laws banning the drug however.

Laws that are unjust require action to be taken. All the actions people have taken in regards to marijuana and the law have been peaceful, just... technically illegal due to the consumption of marijuana in the process.

However, there remains one far more potent issue here: the fact that the Federal government is even telling us what is legal and illegal in terms of drugs.
I am all for being a nation of laws. We also need to be a nation that follows its own guidelines accordingly. Sadly, voter apathy has gotten us into quite a mess, drug laws really just being a minor issue in comparison to other things.
My point being: federal regulations of drugs is not something that should even be present, it belongs at the state level according to the document our country is supposed to cherish. Except, well... our so called representatives have decided to give up that right with a large number of issues and hand it over to the Federal level.

I agree that it shouldn't be a Federal issue but undoing the mess of regulations that is the current Federal government isn't going to start or end with marijuana laws.

As for unjust laws being opposed, absolutely. I think the key thing to remember is not everyone feels that restrictions on marijuana (either at the Federal or State levels) are unjust. My point is that if a person does feel that these drug laws are unjust they should use every legal opportunity to have that law changed. I don't believe that we as a country have fallen so far that we resort to breaking a law simply because we don't agree with it.

Obviously there are a lot of people out there who believe that morally and ethically it is "ok" to possess and use marijuana. I don't make that distinction though, to me the law is the law and if we want to change the law, great, lets change it - but in the mean time it must be followed. I don't view marijuana possession or use in "right and wrong" terms.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: wade3
Factory manufactured doobies would be awesome

Coconut Groves baby...pre-rolled packages of 20.

You could buy those in many shops in Vietnam back in the day...

Not that I ever did of course...:roll:


Even though I've been an advocate of legalizing marijuana for over 30 years, I do not indulge...and legalizing it would not change that.

 

[PrinceofWands]

I've went 37 years without doing a drug (other than alcohol, if you so define it), see no reason it would change in the future.