If Mass Effect 3 requires origin...

[frozentundra123456]

i dont understand what the big problem is? its not like Steam is some altruistic platform, they're in it to make money too and they control 70% of digital sales. Full prices for games despite no shipping, packaging, or physical costs. Ridiculous regional pricing which makes absolutely no sense. They have there own share of problems which are easy to fix but they've grown complacent. eg: games disconnecting all of a sudden due to "steam maintenance" and i lose my ranking (DoW2), if i lose internet i can't play my games offline... i have to first choose OFFLINE mode BEFORE disconnecting from the internet, but how on earth am i supposed to know when my internet is gonna be out? Sometimes the cable company cuts it off for maintenance and i lose access to it for a few hours, ALL my games are no longer available to me. Its been out for almost 7 years and i can't even choose which hard drive to install to! how easy are these things to fix? They're just lazy.

I installed Origin for BF3 and no problems at all. AND if my internet disconnects i can play my games offline without having to FIRST choose offline mode WHEN im online. Stop touting Steam as if its a charity. I dont understand the point of these threads, do you get commission for pimping Steam?

I totally agree with you about Steam. I just dont understand the total and unreserved support for Steam on these forums. I have had my share of problems with them and not recieved good customer support at all. And they arent some altrustic organization set up to help PC gaming, they are a business set up to make money. And I agree that offline mode is great, but it is the mother of all catch 22s to have to be online to set up offline mode.

I cant comment on Origin, because I have not used it yet, but certainly I would not refrain from ordering a game that I wanted because it was on Origin or was not on Steam.

 

[Rifter]

i refuse to use steam and origin and any other drm-infested digital distribution platform for pc. if indeed confirmed (as that post above hinted at), then i'll have to get my fix on x360.

You do realize consols are the most DRM'ed devices in the world right? Wow what a statement.

 

[zerogear]

You do realize consols are the most DRM'ed devices in the world right? Wow what a statement.

TBH, DRM isn't much of an issue if it doesn't hamper the user's gaming experience. When you get stuff like "can't play game, server down" (a la Ubisoft), that's when you boycott.

Though Steamworks as well as Console DRM are pretty transparent in my eyes.. at least until you try to copy it.

 

[airdata]

I've never had any game publisher type bias before the BF3 debacle. I want to play BF3.

It's an awesome game, but origin and the whole website game launcher thing was the worst idea ever. When I was looking at SW : TOR and saw it was origin I immediately said Hellll no.


I'll be looking for it on sale as the date creeps up.. definitely a release date purchase.

 

[Rifter]

TBH, DRM isn't much of an issue if it doesn't hamper the user's gaming experience. When you get stuff like "can't play game, server down" (a la Ubisoft), that's when you boycott.

Though Steamworks as well as Console DRM are pretty transparent in my eyes.. at least until you try to copy it.

I know, and i agree 100% with your statement.

But saying you arnt going to use steam/origin/whatever DD site but will use a console because of DRM is a retarded statement to make.

 

[Golgatha]

I don't buy BMWs because they only sell them at BMW dealerships. Uncompetitive bastards...

I'd say this is more like BMW not letting a reputable rental car company buy their cars, and if you want to rent a BMW you must utilize a sub-par POS rental car company.

 

[QuantumPion]

I don't like Origin as much as Steam so far (mainly due to lack of convenient backup function) but there is no functional difference as far as the games are concerned. There may be an issue if Origin imposes some sort of download limit, revokes/limits access, falls apart in 5 years, etc. Basically all the same worries people had about steam when it was new. But I see having competing services as a good thing. How many people here bitching about Origin are the same type of people that cry when AMD does poorly because "someone has to keep Intel on their toes for the consumer", etc.

 

[Golgatha]

None of the choices really fit my feelings. The worst case in my opinion is if a game requires two platform, such as GFWL and Steam. But since Steam and EA dont seem to get along this is not likely.

That would be a trifecta if I've ever seen it. Steam launches game, which launches Origin, which then requires a GFWL login.

 

[Red Storm]

That would be a trifecta if I've ever seen it. Steam launches game, which launches Origin, which then requires a GFWL login.

That could spawn an entire generation of new pirates on its own. D:

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

I totally agree with you about Steam. I just dont understand the total and unreserved support for Steam on these forums. I have had my share of problems with them and not recieved good customer support at all. And they arent some altrustic organization set up to help PC gaming, they are a business set up to make money. And I agree that offline mode is great, but it is the mother of all catch 22s to have to be online to set up offline mode.

I cant comment on Origin, because I have not used it yet, but certainly I would not refrain from ordering a game that I wanted because it was on Origin or was not on Steam.

..Wait, when did that get changed? Because I recall several occasions where my internet was out, and steam offered to let me change to offline mode when I tried to start it.

 

[byteman99]

I can't stop now at the end. I will wait for the price to go down just like I did with the other Mass Effect titles. Steam or Origin it wont make that much of a big difference.

 

[you2]

Well historically steam (and valve in general) have been troubled free for me (can't speak for others).

Historically EA has been crap - that's why i'm reluctant to be forced to use origin. I mean look at this crap where a forum ban on EA results in no access to your games (yea yea they post pr crap that it is not suppose to work that way; but have they fixed it ?). Then there was the crap in merging accounts when they purchased bioware (I'm told they still can't do it correctly; and each time I try to merge my accounts they tell me it won't work).
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So now you want me to suffer further with origin ? EA has a bad reputation for a reason. yea they can change; but I rather see it before I commit.
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Instead I keep reading more crap EA has done; anyways if ME3 turns out to be really good I might bite even if it requires origin; but unlike previous bioware games I definitely won't buy it early until I see that (a) iti s a very good game and (b) origin doesn't cause folks too much grief in playing the game - both short term and long term (hence a long wait for this game).
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I suspect this move by EA is all about $$$$ not customer experience and the fact that they put out PR about customer experience just makes me more reluctant to bite.
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Btw has anyone ever noted that EA is a company about good customer experience ?

 

[frozentundra123456]

That would be a trifecta if I've ever seen it. Steam launches game, which launches Origin, which then requires a GFWL login.

BTW, this is off topic, but does Fallout 3 require or tie into GFWL now?? When I launch FO 3 from steam it automatically logs me into GFWL. (I have a stored password from when a friend was playing Batman on my comp via Steam.)

Is this a bug or something? Skyrim doesnt do this when I launch it. If it is correct, when did Bethesda ally with Microsoft? Sure glad Skyrim doesnt do this.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

I don't pre-order single player games. There's been a sale every season at pretty much every digital distribution site so it's highly likely a game will be discounted within 3-6 months.

Origin sits in my tray like Steam. Uses pretty much the same resources and does the same things. Their Cloud saving and friends feature is a little buggy though. Not a big deal because I remember when Steam had Friends disabled for months at a time while they were tweaking it. I would prefer it if they used an open im standard like jabber or something. Then I could just hop on meebo or something and talk to people from my tablet/mobile.

 

[shortylickens]

Fallout 3 can use GFWL, but doesnt need it. In fact I removed GFWL and a lot of games ran better.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Fallout 3 can use GFWL, but doesnt need it. In fact I removed GFWL and a lot of games ran better.

yea, I closed out GFWL and FO3 still launched. I was just surprised because I have played before a few months back, and this didnt happen.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

All of the times I played Fallout3 from the retail boxed copy it required GFWL, but I've not played in a while...

 

[Borealis7]

so if it requires Origin, then it means it requires an internet connection in order to start the game? that's bull****! what if my electricity is out?? how will i play then???

 

[poohbear]

ok i'll bite, who here has actually had a problem using Origin vs using Steam? or are we just all talking out of parania here? i've had no problem at all with them & bf3.

..Wait, when did that get changed? Because I recall several occasions where my internet was out, and steam offered to let me change to offline mode when I tried to start it.

no clue when they started implementing it, but its been like that for months now. Its really nonsensical considering i'm offline because i have NO internet, i got cut off, how on earth do they expect me to reconnect to enable offline mode? its ridiculous.

 

[shortylickens]

yea, I closed out GFWL and FO3 still launched. I was just surprised because I have played before a few months back, and this didnt happen.

If you have GFWL installed and Fallout 3 know it then you got problems. It will try to look for it at startup every time, and if its not running already the game immediately starts bugging you.
Dawn of War 2 is even worse.

 

[Maximilian]

Not buying if it requires origin.

 

[frozentundra123456]

ok i'll bite, who here has actually had a problem using Origin vs using Steam? or are we just all talking out of parania here? i've had no problem at all with them & bf3.



no clue when they started implementing it, but its been like that for months now. Its really nonsensical considering i'm offline because i have NO internet, i got cut off, how on earth do they expect me to reconnect to enable offline mode? its ridiculous.

Yea, the system is borked as I said. It seems to me to work this way. If you are online and say "go offline" then you are in offline mode. You will stay in offline mode until you say "go online" when you are connected to Steam. If you lose internet then you will automatically start in offline mode, no problem.

Perversely, if you are playing online and exit steam, then lose your connection, on next start up, offline mode does not seem to work. You have to be online to tell it to go offline!!

Since I play only singe player and dont really care about friends lists or achievements, I basically play in offline mode all the time.

 

[Mem]

I installed the Origin launcher few days ago,don't see the big issue to be honest,yes I could of used Steam for the KAO demo but wanted to see what all the fuss was about,had 0 issues.


Btw they could put ME3 with Starforce copy protection and I would still buy it, there's nothing I'm afraid of.