If money was no option, which router would you get and why?

[dalearyous]

simple, if money didn't matter which router would you pickup? excluding ones with backup solutions (built in hard drive etc...) which is the best one for features, speed, and dependibility? a usb port on the back is a plus but its for printer not hard drive.

 

[rickeo]

If we are talking soho, then either a Dlink DGL-4500 or a Linksys WRT600N

 

[Pabster]

My 2 favorites are the D-Link DIR-655 and Apple's Airport Extreme. The former doesn't share USB printers or hard disks, but costs about half the Apple and is a terrific 'N' router.

 

[jaqie]

no "option"? do you mean object?

If money was no object, I would get a nice cisco core router and a DS line...DS3 sounds nice.
FYI a huge majority of the internet backbone switches are cisco.

 

[nightowl]

Originally posted by: jaqie
no "option"? do you mean object?

If money was no object, I would get a nice cisco core router and a DS line...DS3 sounds nice.
FYI a huge majority of the internet backbone switches are cisco.

I am going to guess that you meant routers and not switches?

 

[jlazzaro]

Originally posted by: jaqie
FYI a huge majority of the internet backbone switches are cisco.

cisco may rule the enterprise market, but not the ISP one. many major tier1/2 providers prefer juniper, extreme, and other major players over the big bad wolf

 

[NickOlsen8390]

Originally posted by: jaqie
no "option"? do you mean object?

If money was no object, I would get a nice cisco core router and a DS line...DS3 sounds nice.
FYI a huge majority of the internet backbone switches are cisco.

I would use the same router software i use now, Mikrotik
It will do anything with ease. With more options then you can shake a stick at.
Right now i have it on a P4 2.6ghz, with 1gb of ram and its total over kill, Never goes above 10% cpu and uses about 30mb of ram.
Mikrotik can do Anything. If you can find a wireless N card to put in it then you can have wireless N too. Or, you could get a 600mw 802.11G card and a 15db gain omni and there you go, you have an effective 20watt AP that will take out most stuff around you. And if you have a good card in your laptop and LOS with it it will work a long way away.
We have a 3 watt ap on a water tower. And i connected to it 1.25 miles away. Only with LOS that is.

DS3? Are you kidding me?
If money was no object I would have multiple Fiber drops from all the big carriers. Level 3, TimeWarner Telecom, The local cable company so i would ping well to my friends. And most likely more then that. I would peer them all together for redundant failover and BGP Routing. Each line being something like a OC-12 or greater. The main line that the data seems to take most of the time because of BGP would be something like a OC-48. Or possibly GigE lines instead of OC lines. I would then have a new addon to my house, being solid concrete that i would fill with racks of servers. I would rent Game servers to people, and do shared and dedicated hosting for people. And of course have a 42U rack of servers in there just for me.

 

[jlazzaro]

Originally posted by: NickOlsen8390

Originally posted by: jaqie
no "option"? do you mean object?

If money was no object, I would get a nice cisco core router and a DS line...DS3 sounds nice.
FYI a huge majority of the internet backbone switches are cisco.

DS3? Are you kidding me?
If money was no object I would have multiple Fiber drops from all the big carriers. Level 3, TimeWarner Telecom, The local cable company so i would ping well to my friends. And most likely more then that. I would peer them all together for redundant failover and BGP Routing. Each line being something like a OC-12 or greater. The main line that the data seems to take most of the time because of BGP would be something like a OC-48. Or possibly GigE lines instead of OC lines. I would then have a new addon to my house, being solid concrete that i would fill with racks of servers. I would rent Game servers to people, and do shared and dedicated hosting for people. And of course have a 42U rack of servers in there just for me.

sounds like a networking wet dream to me

 

[nightowl]

Originally posted by: jlazzaro

Originally posted by: jaqie
FYI a huge majority of the internet backbone switches are cisco.

cisco may rule the enterprise market, but not the ISP one. many major tier1/2 providers prefer juniper, extreme, and other major players over the big bad wolf

Juniper I would agree with and Extreme, not so much. They do not have real routers. They are just a switch company. Now, for a metro E network I have seen Extreme there, but that is just L2 transport.

 

[JackMDS]

Given the nature of the question, and the above answers, I think this page would describe the issue Best.

http://www.ezlan.net/brouter.html

:shocked: - - :roll:

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: jaqie
no "option"? do you mean object?

If money was no object, I would get a nice cisco core router and a DS line...DS3 sounds nice.
FYI a huge majority of the internet backbone switches are cisco.

FYI - cisco doesn't always hold the majority. Juniper and Cisco trade places for that, it's more

 

[jaqie]

Originally posted by: nightowl
I am going to guess that you meant routers and not switches?

Yep, sorry.

Originally posted by: jlazzaro
cisco may rule the enterprise market, but not the ISP one. many major tier1/2 providers prefer juniper, extreme, and other major players over the big bad wolf

True, but there's that 'last mile' that the ISPs have control over, that's basically what I was referring to. I keep forgetting there are others here that actually know the optical drive is not a cupholder, I am used to oversimplifying and overgeneralizing to technical wrongness for the sake of clarity.

Originally posted by: NickOlsen8390
DS3? Are you kidding me?

I supposed it was meant for home use... if I was able to use it to make money off of, then yes, I would get much more

 

[NickOlsen8390]

jlazzaro: Yes, Indeed it is. I have done much drooling over said ideas.

Jaqie: Agreed, But i would love more then a DS3 in my house. The more the better, Even if i wasn't going to make money off it. But even at 45mbs your going to find that most sites cant push you that much, so at the same time its only going to be good for something with multiple things going. Where only certain things are going to push that line to its full speed.

 

[WildHorse]

Originally posted by: JackMDS
Given the nature of the question, and the above answers, I think this page would describe the issue Best.

http://www.ezlan.net/brouter.html

:shocked: - - :roll:

Ha Ha Ha

Hilarious!

Thank you for the great laugh, I needed that!

 

[Old Hippie]

Originally posted by: JackMDS
Given the nature of the question, and the above answers, I think this page would describe the issue Best.

http://www.ezlan.net/brouter.html

:shocked: - - :roll:

:laugh: :beer: :thumbsup:

I'm keeping a copy!

 

[jaqie]

Originally posted by: NickOlsen8390
even at 45mbs your going to find that most sites cant push you that much, so at the same time its only going to be good for something with multiple things going. Where only certain things are going to push that line to its full speed.

If I had a "free" DS3 at home where I was barred from making money off of it or whatever, I would actually use the entire bandwidth... how? Well, I would run a few game servers and a few non profit servers for open source software...that would basically take the entire bandwidth.

 

[NickOlsen8390]

Originally posted by: jaqie

Originally posted by: NickOlsen8390
even at 45mbs your going to find that most sites cant push you that much, so at the same time its only going to be good for something with multiple things going. Where only certain things are going to push that line to its full speed.

If I had a "free" DS3 at home where I was barred from making money off of it or whatever, I would actually use the entire bandwidth... how? Well, I would run a few game servers and a few non profit servers for open source software...that would basically take the entire bandwidth.

Well yeah, Thats what i meant by running multiple things. But your not going to find to many sites that you can download at 45mbs from. Unless there pretty close tracert wise or directly peered with the provider of said DS3.

 

[jaqie]

I'm talking about uploading. Read what you quoted.

 

[NickOlsen8390]

Originally posted by: jaqie
I'm talking about uploading. Read what you quoted.

Even on upload it holds true, just not as much. I work for a ISP here and most of the time we cant push more then about 10mbs to a offsite FTP server, even when the line is much faster then that. But we can use a lot more if we do multiple instances to different servers. I get what your saying. But what i mean is that, Download or Upload, your not going to max out a line like that unless there close to you. Or your path to them is just remarkable. So to use all of it you have to run multiple things.

 

[jaqie]

Someone explain to this guy the nature of bandwidth usage of open source software mirrors and game servers on high bandwidth backbones.

 

[NickOlsen8390]

Originally posted by: jaqie
Someone explain to this guy the nature of bandwidth usage of open source software mirrors and game servers on high bandwidth backbones.

Ah, My bad, When you said open source software servers i thought something else. If your mirroring for something like a linux distro or something, yeah that will use it all. A mirror for something would use a lot, as for running game servers they don't really use that much. There more dependent on low latency and then bandwidth. I run a few Counter Strike Source servers and a large 50 man server at full load only takes about 6Mb/s up.

 

[0roo0roo]

something gigabit and ridiculous connection/qos handling ability. torrent don't slow me down!

 

[telemachos]

Originally posted by: rickeo
If we are talking soho, then either a Dlink DGL-4500 or a Linksys WRT600N

Rickeo, if one doesn't need 5 Ghz 802.11n capability, would a Dlink DIR-655 be as good as the DGL-4500?

 

[NickOlsen8390]

Doesn't the DIR-655 also have 802.11n on it?

 

[JackMDS]

Originally posted by: NickOlsen8390
Doesn't the DIR-655 also have 802.11n on it?

No device has 802.11n, some devices have Draft-N and the DIR-655 is one of them.