If Newsome does get kicked out of his govenor seat in CA, who do you think would win the upcoming election? Do you think it would be a Democrat, Republican, or Independent? Who would it be exactly? Names of users who polled are not shown.
Gray Davis was pretty straightforward: dude wanted to increase vehicle registration fees and people got upset (nevermind the fees went up under the Governator anyway).
Newsom's recall will be messier: people's opinions and the misinfo about Covid is everywhere. He has definitely taken some hits sending his kids to Private school while simultaneously putting little to no pressure on public school reopenings (teacher's unions here are going full retard, refusing to even come back and work in person after being vaccinated), as well as his now infamous lobbyist dinner.
CA's Covid response has been... schizophrenic at best...to the point where large swaths of the population appear to just be ignoring whatever lockdown orders are in place at any given time. CA still does remarkably well in the per capital Covid cases because Californians still practice the basic safety Covid guidelines (masking and distancing,even in many deep red areas) and the weather likely helps as TONS of people have taken to the beautiful outdoors here as other venues of entertainment remain closed which naturally reduces Covid transmission.
While I do not think he will actually be recalled, it will be a real nutkick to his ego.
I seem to remember the electricity crisis being another major factor in the Davis recall. I didn't pay as much attention to politics back then but I recall distinctly a missive amount of anti Davis radio ads bashing him over the electricity crisis.Gray Davis was pretty straightforward: dude wanted to increase vehicle registration fees and people got upset (nevermind the fees went up under the Governator anyway).
Newsom's recall will be messier: people's opinions and the misinfo about Covid is everywhere. He has definitely taken some hits sending his kids to Private school while simultaneously putting little to no pressure on public school reopenings (teacher's unions here are going full retard, refusing to even come back and work in person after being vaccinated), as well as his now infamous lobbyist dinner.
CA's Covid response has been... schizophrenic at best...to the point where large swaths of the population appear to just be ignoring whatever lockdown orders are in place at any given time. CA still does remarkably well in the per capital Covid cases because Californians still practice the basic safety Covid guidelines (masking and distancing,even in many deep red areas) and the weather likely helps as TONS of people have taken to the beautiful outdoors here as other venues of entertainment remain closed which naturally reduces Covid transmission.
While I do not think he will actually be recalled, it will be a real nutkick to his ego.
In the unlikely event that Newsom is recalled, the chances are also remote that he's replaced by a leading GOP candidate. Arnold had movie star power, and he was very much a RINO. People tend to have forgotten, but Arnold was an awful governor. His successor Jerry Brown did amazing work to put California back on solid fiscal grounding.Very low chance. The GOP here succeeded with Grey Davis only because he had low approvals. Newsom has approvals a little over 50 as of last week. This is also a more partisan time meaning the state democratic majority will see this as a GOP coup - which it is - and show up to keep him in office.
LOL you think entertainment production was a major vector of Covid-19 transmission?Stain of a recall would probably hurt his future Presidential prospects though. I’m curious to know who people think “deserves” to be recalled more—Newsome or Cuomo? I think Newsome and Garcetti bent over backwards for the film industry, which definitely led to higher infection rates as production picked up but the economic damage would’ve been far worse had Hollywood stayed shut down.
I seem to remember the electricity crisis being another major factor in the Davis recall. I didn't pay as much attention to politics back then but I recall distinctly a missive amount of anti Davis radio ads bashing him over the electricity crisis.
I not a Newsom fan but don't think he should be recalled. Hopefully you are right and we don't waste resources on a pointless recall in the middle of a pandemic.
People tend to have forgotten, but Arnold was an awful governor.
- I think the election is going to happen, we've crossed the million signature threshold and I'm sure even after the dust settles and names are struck off the list we'll still be headed into a wasteful election.
Regardless, I think Newsom stays, but in my ideal reality he wins it by the skin of his balls and has to shake off a bit of that "loves the smell of his own farts" thing he has going on.
Newsom reminds me (I have no actual basis for anything in this) of Governor Moonbeam round 1. I think he's definitely got the smarts and the sleaze to run a place like Cali, but he needs some humbling and kicking around before a more truly productive second term. Jerry Brown might have really been out in left field during his first term, but he was a pretty honest and even-keel guy the second time around that wasn't about to pull any punches that had to be thrown for political expediency or anything else (I await the deluge of responses explaining to me why I am wrong).
That's not the reason Davis was recalled.Gray Davis was pretty straightforward: dude wanted to increase vehicle registration fees and people got upset (nevermind the fees went up under the Governator anyway).
Newsom's recall will be messier: people's opinions and the misinfo about Covid is everywhere. He has definitely taken some hits sending his kids to Private school while simultaneously putting little to no pressure on public school reopenings (teacher's unions here are going full retard, refusing to even come back and work in person after being vaccinated), as well as his now infamous lobbyist dinner.
CA's Covid response has been... schizophrenic at best...to the point where large swaths of the population appear to just be ignoring whatever lockdown orders are in place at any given time. CA still does remarkably well in the per capital Covid cases because Californians still practice the basic safety Covid guidelines (masking and distancing,even in many deep red areas) and the weather likely helps as TONS of people have taken to the beautiful outdoors here as other venues of entertainment remain closed which naturally reduces Covid transmission.
While I do not think he will actually be recalled, it will be a real nutkick to his ego.
I seem to remember the electricity crisis being another major factor in the Davis recall. I didn't pay as much attention to politics back then but I recall distinctly a missive amount of anti Davis radio ads bashing him over the electricity crisis.
I'm not a Newsom fan but don't think he should be recalled. Hopefully you are right and we don't waste resources on a pointless recall in the middle of a pandemic.
Yeah I wasn't insinuating it was his fault just that it seemed to be a a major part of the recall. I was in my early 20s at that time and listening to a little talk radio was the extent of my political awareness so just going off anti Davis commercials. I knew 100X more about commuter components and upcoming video games then politics back then.That electricity crisis back then was caused by the previous governor, Pete Wilson and his buddies at San Diego Gas & Electric as well as the other big-name players in the energy biz.
"De-regulate, you can buy your power from whatever company you want...green power, wind power, nuclear energy, cow-fart methane produced...you sign up for whatever company you want, your local utility will deliver it for a small wheeling charge."
Only...once it happened...and people were actually signing up for power elsewhere...the energy companies cried foul...and got Pete to cancel that part of it. Then, also because of the deregulation laws he pushed through, the energy companies outside California were free to rape the state for purchased power. Enron and Duke were just two of the big names who held Davis's feet to the fire to stop the rolling blackouts they were causing by refusing to sell cheap electricity to the state.
I was working for an electrical utility in the early 90's when all this shit started...the public utility I worked for was shitting themselves over the prospect of people in the district buying cheaper power elsewhere...in the end, it cost me my job as they cut jobs to cut costs. I COULD have bid into a different job and stayed...but I've been a crane operator all my life. The idea of starting in some kind of apprenticeship at my age (then) seemed stupid to me..so I did something that was unheard of...I quit and went back to construction.
Whatever slim odds republicans faced in CA before, I'd say they've worsened exponentially after 4 years of spineless republican traitors indulging a mentally ill wannabe dictator. The fires in particular, where republicans sat mum when Trump said it's the Dems fault, I shouldn't have to send anything. Oh hey Putin, I see you have some fires in Siberia, need some help? Yikes.
This country, especially it's famed rule of law, is a worldwide joke thanks to republicans. The GOP is the party of treason, I wouldn't expect to see it make gains outside the dixie waving parts of the South.
Just stop, seriously.But what about Republican Swazenager??? If he were allowed to run again, why would CA vote him back, or why does everyone want him, if you claim to say CA hates Republicans?
But what about Republican Swazenager??? If he were allowed to run again, why would CA vote him back, or why does everyone want him, if you claim to say CA hates Republicans?
I don't know, what? If you're going to be a clown acting like your retarded hypothetical means anything, you can do that on your own. I have no interest in arguing against a point you don't have, though you flailing away at straw does amuse.
People wanting Arnold in office would be news to me. You, acting like a bullshit or a n0body or a pcgeek, this I've seen before. *yawn*
I'm so shocked. /sRep. Darrell Issa put down 2 million dollars to bankroll the petition drive to recall Gray Davis because he wanted to run for governor.
From the Archives: How the 2003 gubernatorial recall changed California
Ten years after the Gray Davis recall, California was changed -- but not the way proponents hoped -- by the seismic election that propelled Arnold Schwarzenegger into the governor's office.www.google.com
He literally cried when Schwarznegger got into the recall race and spoiled his plans. This is yet another Republican ploy to try and get elected when they have little chance besides a recall.