Are you seriously raging between permanent sterilization and temporary birth control? I have some apples you can compare to snickers candy if you want while at it.
Are you seriously raging between permanent sterilization and temporary birth control? I have some apples you can compare to snickers candy if you want while at it.Oh whew. Temporary sterlization, thats so much more of a relief!
I was looking through my Dave Ramsey steps for financial freedom and I couldnt find forced sterilization in there....but I peeled back the last page off the cover and found it! There it is, baby step 8. Once you have eliminated all debt, fill out your 10-666 and plead the government to let you have control of your f!&!&ing body again.
Wow, it's not really that hard, no forms to fill out, you stop taking money and you can do whatever the fuck you want. I'm a bit confused, but I can only assume you are OK with queens pumping out kids for the sole purpose of collecting a check. Please correct if I'm misstating your position.
Are you seriously raging between permanent sterilization and temporary birth control? I have some apples you can compare to snickers candy if you want while at it.
You don't have to provide me with an article from someone who has never even seen the inside of a housing plan let alone slept under the steps in cold weather and ate the food the people living there wouldn't. I lived with queens, I slept with them, I grew up with them, I still know some of them still today. You have no idea unless you actually lived it. I spent a little over 5 years living out of dumpsters and sleeping in flop houses and on couches when there was one open. There is not a fucking thing I am going to learn out of a newspaper article, that I didn't live myself. You guys may prefer to believe what some college graduate thinks he knows and writes an article over someone who actually lived it, but that does not change what I witnessed. I would be interested in knowing how many people you guys know who are on welfare and live in public housing, I'm gonna guess somewhere close to zero.Don't mistake fairy tales for factual reality.
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/09/welfare-queen-myth/501470/
Oh again. More relief! Whew I was really worried when I read that last post but NOW im relieved. So when you inject me with hormones that preventy ovaries from developing...its just "temporary". Thank you government from keeping me from doing something so utterly stupid as trying to create a family! Gosh I would be so lost without the government.
Gentlemen lets consider that under the USDA's EBT program it doesn't allow the cardholder to purchase anything they wish at the grocery store limiting them to specific items in authorized categories. How would temporarily prohibiting them from increasing their family size that is being supported by taxpayer funds be detrimental to them? Where is the accountability in all of this? Do you not consider it to be irresponsible to add to your family when you cannot take of what you have on your own?
OK so let's look at this from another direction because I actually agree that the government should not be incontrol of a person's right ( still looking for that line in my pocket constitution) to reproduce. IF you CHOOSE to reproduce you should not be able to collect welfare. How about now? Is it such a bad thing to say we are here to help you but if your gonna actively put yourself into a position where you will need up for the rest of your life, we choose to stop providing the means by which to do that?The point: you're arguing the government should have control over who's allowed to reproduce.
This will always be wrong.
That isn't it at all. If a person has fallen upon demonstrably hard times shouldn't they also bear some part in mitigating their own circumstances?Why not have an IQ test so that we can ensure that only smart people are breeding? The drain on society from stupid people and their actions is a lot greater than poor people having kids. Unfortunately, you and others like would have to be sterilized but no worries, if you study real hard I'm sure you'll pass eventually. In fact, let's also have a mental test while we are at it, I want to be sure mental idiots like you and some of the other posters never breed again and since facts still haven't entered into the conversation from the pro sterilization side, I think your children should be sterilized as well since stupidity is a generational thing.
Finally making America great again!
less poor = better for society overall?
ie: less resources to prop them up and less crime
OK so let's look at this from another direction because I actually agree that the government should not be incontrol of a person's right ( still looking for that line in my pocket constitution) to reproduce. IF you CHOOSE to reproduce you should not be able to collect welfare. How about now? Is it such a bad thing to say we are here to help you but if your gonna actively put yourself into a position where you will need up for the rest of your life, we choose to stop providing the means by which to do that?
Like everything else it’s constituitonal interpretation. Griswold v. Connecticut ruled against the state for outlawing birth control for married couples. The SCOTUS ruled it was a violation of the zone of privacy guaranteed by constitutional freedoms.OK so let's look at this from another direction because I actually agree that the government should not be incontrol of a person's right ( still looking for that line in my pocket constitution) to reproduce. IF you CHOOSE to reproduce you should not be able to collect welfare. How about now? Is it such a bad thing to say we are here to help you but if your gonna actively put yourself into a position where you will need up for the rest of your life, we choose to stop providing the means by which to do that?
That isn't it at all. If a person has fallen upon demonstrably hard times shouldn't they also bear some part in mitigating their own circumstances?
OK so let's look at this from another direction because I actually agree that the government should not be incontrol of a person's right ( still looking for that line in my pocket constitution) to reproduce. IF you CHOOSE to reproduce you should not be able to collect welfare. How about now? Is it such a bad thing to say we are here to help you but if your gonna actively put yourself into a position where you will need up for the rest of your life, we choose to stop providing the means by which to do that?
Try re-reading my post fuckwad (that's what we're doing now when we disagree with someone right, call them names) and try again. So fucking closed minded.The line you are looking for, dumb ass, is "the general welfare of the united states". Can you tell me how a struggling family not getting support to keep their child from starving, or individuals from not starving helps this country? Oh it means your taxes get reduced? Well shit! That's worth the higher crime rates, the increase in health care costs and the decrease in productivity! Shit! That might just be enough to cover your Costco membership!
I never mentioned birth control in the post your responding to. I actually agree that is a bad idea for the government to get involved in that.Like everything else it’s constituitonal interpretation. Griswold v. Connecticut ruled against the state for outlawing birth control for married couples. The SCOTUS ruled it was a violation of the zone of privacy guaranteed by constitutional freedoms.
I think punishing the kids for the actions of the parent is a fantastic idea as well. You are on fire today.OK so let's look at this from another direction because I actually agree that the government should not be incontrol of a person's right ( still looking for that line in my pocket constitution) to reproduce. IF you CHOOSE to reproduce you should not be able to collect welfare. How about now? Is it such a bad thing to say we are here to help you but if your gonna actively put yourself into a position where you will need up for the rest of your life, we choose to stop providing the means by which to do that?
The Nazis got the idea from the Americans. Eugenics seemed to have its American fan base in early 20th century Progressives and early 20th racists trying to control the population of the poors and non-Nordics.amazing how people can think like the same "Nazis" they often want to randomly punch in the face.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics
Dont like what welfare does to people? How about not giving it out!
Try re-reading my post fuckwad (that's what we're doing now when we disagree with someone right, call them names) and try again. So fucking closed minded.
Interesting take. So you are ok for supporting the parents no matter how many they pump out? My life long friend had 24 brother and sisters, pretty much all on welfare today, as are their kids and grandkids. In total there are some 140 +/- people on the take just from his siblings, not a fucking one of them works above the table except for him. Are you saying that you are OK with no limits to the number of kids someone on welfare should be able to have?I think punishing the kids for the actions of the parent is a fantastic idea as well. You are on fire today.
I think in the grand scheme of things you worry about all the wrong things. Just like the wealthy have programmed you to do.Interesting take. So you are ok for supporting the parents no matter how many they pump out? My life long friend had 24 brother and sisters, pretty much all on welfare today, as are their kids and grandkids. In total there are some 140 +/- people on the take just from his siblings, not a fucking one of them works above the table except for him. Are you saying that you are OK with no limits to the number of kids someone on welfare should be able to have?
So when you have nothing more to argue, you attack the messenger, how juvenile, I should not expect much more from the likes of you. Brother, pff. But no you have it wrong, we are both targeting stupid people, we just have a different definition of stupid. You think anyone who does not agree with you is stupid, I think that people that smoke, drive drunk, voted for Trump and those that have children with absolutely no fucking means be which to support them are stupid. Same coin just different sides.Don't get mad at me brother! We want the same thing! I have the same contempt for stupid people like you have contempt for poor people. Like you, I want stupid people to suffer and have a painful existence because then maybe they'll stop being stupid. Its the same thing, the only difference is that your target is poor people and my target is stupid people. Of course under my plan, you'd be the target. That's how life goes though, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Stop being an idiot and you can start winning! Right? That's what you tell poor people right?