If Sanders is Hillary's VP...

SP33Demon

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I know some of you Dems are taking hardline stances against Hillary. For those who voting for Sanders over Hillary, if Sanders becomes her VP are you changing your stance on her? Curious.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Have you been smoking some of what the GOP is handing out? There is no way Sanders would be Hillary's vp.
 

SP33Demon

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Have you been smoking some of what the GOP is handing out? There is no way Sanders would be Hillary's vp.
Sanders' top aide must be smoking something too:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ump-as-bernie-sanders-brushes-off-vp-chatter/
Already, however, cracks are beginning to show. One of Sanders's top aides on Monday floated the idea of a Clinton-Sanders ticket -- with Sanders as the vice presidential half.

“Maybe they’re going to put him on the ticket then,” Sanders adviser Tad Devine told Politico's Glenn Thrush.

and the actual source article

“Maybe they’re going to put him on the ticket then,” Devine tells me during a wide-ranging 45-minute interview for POLITICO’s “Off Message” podcast. He isn’t joking, as far as I can tell.

This was a few hours before Devine headed off to Michigan to help his boss prepare for the debate — and he expressed hope that his untamable candidate would keep whacking her on all those paid Goldman Sachs speeches (Bernie obliged). But the veep idea clearly tickled the 60-year-old D.C.-based consultant, a former strategist to the Carter, Mondale, Gore and Kerry campaigns whom Sanders views as his bridge to a party establishment he detests (in a genial, nothing-personal way).

“I’m sure, of course, anyone would,” Devine says when I ask if he could see a scenario where Sanders would actually say yes. They haven’t talked about the possibility, Devine adds, and he says Sanders would never, ever consider it “unless you know, it was done in the right and proper way.” That’s a far cry from last year, when Sanders and Co. rebuffed the second-banana suggestion by countering with an offer to give Clinton the vice presidential slot on his ticket.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/tad-devine-inside-bernie-sanders-campaign-220357

With talk like this, how can we be sure that Sanders isn't cozy with Hillary?
 

Jaskalas

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Place Sanders below a Neocon?
He'd serve the people better in the Senate.
 

Hugo Drax

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I know some of you Dems are taking hardline stances against Hillary. For those who voting for Sanders over Hillary, if Sanders becomes her VP are you changing your stance on her? Curious.

That will never happen. Hillary is going to chose from the pool of Establishment VP options.
 

SP33Demon

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That will never happen. Hillary is going to chose from the pool of Establishment VP options.
But the Sanders camp is hoping he's put on the ticket. Strange isn't it? For an allegedly "non-establishment" candidate?
 

Bitek

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Why would Hillary want Sanders as a VP? He offers nothing.

I don't think she needs Bern to lock up the crucial Prius driver block from voting Trump
 

Jhhnn

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I know some of you Dems are taking hardline stances against Hillary. For those who voting for Sanders over Hillary, if Sanders becomes her VP are you changing your stance on her? Curious.

Very few actual Dems take a hard line stance against Hillary, certainly not in view of the alternatives on the other side. That doesn't apply to the Bernie Bro concern trolls, of course.

I suspect that Sanders' adviser spoke out of turn. I doubt Hillary would offer or that he'd accept but only time will tell.
 

Exophase

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Frank Underwood would disagree.

Put another way, the VP can have a lot of power if the president lets them and if they're popular enough to get the party's easy backing 8 years later.

Hillary wouldn't let Bernie do anything and Bernie's age is already a major hindrance to his election now, there's no way he'd run again next time.
 

ivwshane

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A hillary/sanders ticket would be good, a hillary/warren ticket would be yuuuge!
 

Exophase

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A hillary/sanders ticket would be good, a hillary/warren ticket would be yuuuge!

That won't happen. There's a reason Warren is the only Democratic woman in the senate who has not endorsed Hillary. Despite rumors of being pressured to do so.

Her joining a Bernie ticket seems more likely.
 

ctark

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Bernie could convince her to stop taking money from wall street. In return Bernie joins her and leads the call for a change in campaign finance reform, and he brings her a lot of donor money from the American People.

Long shot, but if it were to happen that would be the one caveat that Sanders would require to join her ticket.
 

ivwshane

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That won't happen. There's a reason Warren is the only Democratic woman in the senate who has not endorsed Hillary. Despite rumors of being pressured to do so.

Her joining a Bernie ticket seems more likely.

She hasn't endorsed bernie either I'm sure she'll endorse whoever wins the nomination.
 

sportage

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Picking Sanders as her VP would be a blatant stunt of all stunts.
Typical of Hillary, but not of Sanders to accept.
Bernie has a lot of funds remaining. He doesn't need to sell his soul to the devil. Just yet....
I can just hear Bernie's response if he were offered the position by Hillary, "WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR DAMN VP SLOT".
 

Jaepheth

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That won't happen. There's a reason Warren is the only Democratic woman in the senate who has not endorsed Hillary. Despite rumors of being pressured to do so.

Her joining a Bernie ticket seems more likely.

I thought Warren was sitting this race out because she doesn't want to hurt her own run in 4-8 years?
 

MongGrel

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Drumpf still has supporters, so stranger things are happening in the world.
 

Exophase

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She hasn't endorsed bernie either I'm sure she'll endorse whoever wins the nomination.

Given her position a lack of endorsement for Hillary speaks a lot more strongly than a lack of endorsement for Bernie. She has much more political incentive to hesitate in openly supporting Bernie than Hillary.

Not saying her joining Bernie is likely overall. Just more likely than her joining Hillary.

I doubt Hillary would want her anyway. They're perceived as clashing in some areas and as superficial as it may be (and unimportant as it should be) a two-woman ticket would be viewed as overreaching by some and weak to others (as in, projecting that she can't handle a male VP being subordinate to her). I'm sure Hillary and her advisors know this.
 
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zinfamous

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Frank Underwood would disagree.

well, you don't really have to go into fiction here, you could actually mention Cheney.

...but that worked the way it did because Dubya was so horribly incompetent. Clinton has far more fortitude and brains (like her or not) to allow a VP to run all over her.
 

LPCTech

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Would much rather have Warren for pres than Hillary.

This. but we have to wait for that.


Sanders/Warren would be good.

And Clinton/Sanders might be ok from a perspective of placating bernie supporters and having them vote for her.

but

I think it would be very unlikely that she would pick him and more unlikely that he would accept.

A 2 women ticket would crash them and a bunch of guys would vote for Trump. So Clinton/Warren is not happening.

Im not really sure who she would pick.

Possibly
Wesley Clark
Sherrod Brown
Tim Kaine
Cory Booker?

not really sure but it will be important.
 

hal2kilo

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This. but we have to wait for that.


Sanders/Warren would be good.

And Clinton/Sanders might be ok from a perspective of placating bernie supporters and having them vote for her.

but

I think it would be very unlikely that she would pick him and more unlikely that he would accept.

A 2 women ticket would crash them and a bunch of guys would vote for Trump. So Clinton/Warren is not happening.

Im not really sure who she would pick.

Possibly
Wesley Clark
Sherrod Brown
Tim Kaine
Cory Booker?

not really sure but it will be important.

Would not have to hold my nose to vote for a Hilary/Brown ticket. Wesley Clark has issues let's say.
 
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