If someone tries to steal your car should you have the right to shoot and kill them?

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thraashman

Lifer
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So the armed guards at Las Vegas casinos or the Louvre shouldn't be armed to protect the extremely valuable property there?

Generally they don't shoot unless they absolutely have to. If I grabbed a handful of chips at a Vegas casino and ran, they wouldn't open fire on me. Actual human beings are generally against the taking of the life of another. People who are able to devalue human life, aren't themselves human in my opinion. They're monsters.
 

HAL9000

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Generally they don't shoot unless they absolutely have to. If I grabbed a handful of chips at a Vegas casino and ran, they wouldn't open fire on me. Actual human beings are generally against the taking of the life of another. People who are able to devalue human life, aren't themselves human in my opinion. They're monsters.

Or sociopaths.
 

HAL9000

Lifer
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What if, by taking your property, they are sentencing you to certain death?

MotionMan

Like taking your life support machine which you are connected to? I'd kill them, if they are KILLING YOU then I'd kill them first all else I wouldn't.

I'd rather be a sociopath than a pussy

Why is not wanting to kill someone over something like a car being a pussy?
 

sadffffff

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Jan 6, 2006
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And you would just sit there as someone broke into your home and stole your things.

pussy

well obviously id try to stop people from taking my things. i just dont believe i have the right to take their life, and woudlnt shoot them over a car or my wallet.
 

nick1985

Lifer
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well obviously id try to stop people from taking my things. i just dont believe i have the right to take their life, and woudlnt shoot them over a car or my wallet.

And what if they have guns or knives? What if there are a few of them? What the hell would you do to "try and stop them"? Yeah, exactly what I thought. You would sit there like a ***** and let them do whatever they wanted.
 

HAL9000

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Because you are willing to let criminals walk all over you.

No... Not killing them isn't letting them walk all over you. For example if someone broke into my house, i'd quite happily beat the shit out them, I wouldn't kill them though, that's not letting them walk all over me.
 

nick1985

Lifer
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No... Not killing them isn't letting them walk all over you. For example if someone broke into my house, i'd quite happily beat the shit out them, I wouldn't kill them though, that's not letting them walk all over me.

What if they are armed? You would beat the shit out of them? lol

What if 3 or 4 guys broke in? You would just beat them all up?
 

nick1985

Lifer
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So now you are changing it from they are stealing to trying to kill me? In that case I'd kill them.

No, you just cant follow.

Lets say 3 guys broke into your house with knives. They are not trying to kill you, they just want to take everything of value from your home. Since you are a passive *****, you sit there and let them do it.
 

HAL9000

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No, you just cant follow.

Lets say 3 guys broke into your house with knives. They are not trying to kill you, they just want to take everything of value from your home. Since you are a passive *****, you sit there and let them do it.

I'd fight, possibly also with knives, would I kill them? no.
 

Sunny129

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i voted "else"...

...if i know for a fact that the thief is unarmed (including any car-jacking equipment that can double as a weapon), then i would have to say that i do not have the right to shoot AND kill him. i do reserve the right to shoot him though :biggrin:...say, in the knee cap so he knows what pain is, AND it'll keep him immobile long enough for the cops to arrive and take it from there. BUT, i would have to be absolutely 100% sure that the thief is unarmed...and without super human powers like X-ray vision or psychic powers, it stands to reason that i could never be 100% positive that the thief is unarmed. therefore a bullet in the head is perfectly reasonable...especially if you care about your car as much as i do

...no i didn't read through this thread...so no, i did not consider all the possible scenarios. suffice it to say that i'll respectfully agree to disagree with anyone who would handle the situation otherwise...
 
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sadffffff

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No, you just cant follow.

Lets say 3 guys broke into your house with knives. They are not trying to kill you, they just want to take everything of value from your home. Since you are a passive *****, you sit there and let them do it.

you should start your own thread, crazy. this one doenst have multiple assailants with weapons. and since it doesnt, physically fighting back against the unarmed car jacker isnt really letting him walk all over you.
 
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