Then I'd use less than deadly means to subdue him. I carry a jo in my car, and would put him down, but still alive.
He is naked, unarmed.
So how is he trying to steal my car? How am I supposed to be intimidated by a naked unarmed man? Like I said, I don't think you have any grasp on what the fuck you're talking about. You think you're smart, but really you just come off more and more like an idiot.
Then I'd use less than deadly means to subdue him. I carry a jo in my car, and would put him down, but still alive.
I'm talking about insurance replacing it.
Put HAL9000 on your ignore list.
a thief's life is worth 2 cents.
I'd be more disappointed I have to spend money on another bullet than I would the guys life ending.
For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul? For what will a man give in exchange for his soul?
Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed; for not even when one has an abundance does his life consist of his possessions.
That costs me money, which costs me time, as well. So again I'm still giving up part of my life for the vehicle, just a smaller part. Someone who disrespects me and my life as much as this hypothetical thief doesn't deserve one second of my life. Like I said, I'd be more disappointed I have to spend money on another bullet than I would the guys life ending.
btw, this is coming from someone who goes out of his way to pick snails up off the ground and move them to the grass/brush because accidentally stepping on them and killing them makes me feel bad.
what if...what if he steals your car seat while you are sitting in it and then a midget comes up and steals your pants while a donkey eats your shoe?
This thread makes no fucking sense.
He is naked, unarmed.
Sorry, it became convoluted, I thought the whole "He has no gun, and is no threat to you" was quite cut and dry, but people didn't like it.
HAL9000, it's time to give it up. You're arguing with people who are looking at things from a pragmatic, but materialistic view.
The quote below means nothing to most people:
He punches you in the face, the worst you will get from it is a black eye or broken nose. He will not, kill you, he tells you this.
You have to understand that the car itself becomes a weapon and you can use deadly force to stop him.Here's what the castle doctrine in pennsylvania say's.
SB 273 would permit law-abiding citizens to use force, including deadly force, against an attacker in their home and any place outside of their home where they have a legal right to be. If enacted, this law would also protect individuals from civil lawsuits by the attacker or the attacker's family when force is used.
Just because they do not have a gun doesn't mean they are not a threat. They could have a knife or another weapon. I'd rather just nail them with a slug and not worry about it altogether.
And I'm supposed to believe the man who is hitting me in the face and stealing my car? Riiiiight...
Nope. Sorry HAL. That doesn't work for me. If I'm armed and someone starts hitting me in an attempt to steal my car I will NEVER assume that he won't kill me. At that point he's dead and I'll have to buy a new shirt.
:thumbsup:Dunno, but riddle me this: If someone tries to steal your guns, should you have the right to run them over in your car?
I know, I wasn't making the argument he has no gun and therefore is no threat, I was making two separate points. 1) He has no gun. 2) he is no threat
Your setting up a scenario that makes no sense. A car thief should be viewed as a threat. There is NO way of knowing they will not harm you.
Even if I did know for sure, I'd rather blow him away than pay an insurance deductible.
The person doesn't have a deadly weapon he poses no threat to you, this you know. This is fact, this was in the OP.
So were back to your time and your money is more valuable than a human life?
Sorry, it became convoluted, I thought the whole "He has no gun, and is no threat to you" was quite cut and dry, but people didn't like it.
I'm trying to remove the potential for people to argue based on paranoia. Based on the idea of "well if he'd steal my car, then he'd happily massacre a small village" ... I want this argument based on reason not delusion.
IF he has no gun AND he is NO THREAT, he IS NOT stealing my car.I understand that, but I'm not asking what the law is where you live, I'm asking what you think it should be.
I know, I wasn't making the argument he has no gun and therefore is no threat, I was making two separate points. 1) He has no gun. 2) he is no threat
what if...what if he steals your car seat while you are sitting in it and then a midget comes up and steals your pants while a donkey eats your shoe?
This thread makes no fucking sense.
neckbeard, this is not a real situation. it is, in fact, an impossible situation. it is not worth discussing.
How is he going to get your car if he poses no threat to you? Do you honestly think you should just let him take it out of the kindness of your heart?
I understand that, but I'm not asking what the law is where you live, I'm asking what you think it should be.
I know, I wasn't making the argument he has no gun and therefore is no threat, I was making two separate points. 1) He has no gun. 2) he is no threat