...typical.so many leftwing ragers in this thread...
The cartoon is not a fair analogy. Those opposed to civil rights sought to attribute violence to a non-violence movement, with MLK being a huge proponent of non-violence.
There are elements of antifa literally using and advocating violence. Take Boston for example. There was a very effective non-violent demonstration in Boston against fascism, largely because the police successfully suppressed any violent antifa elements.
In Germany, where they have zero tolerance for Nazis, the government also has zero tolerance for antifas.
You didn't read the article I posted, it is worth your time.
There's been adequate media coverage.
The organizations that watch and monitor hate groups continue to remain effective and functional. Which ones specifically are being disabled?
I've witnessed the results and human tragedy of what true fascism and nationalism is capable of. We have a very rational society, and I just don't see fascism expanding in America.
What is happening in America is the death throes of a movement, not the rise of one.
Do you condone their attacking journalists, yes or no answer.You really have no idea, huh? Germany-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazi_marches_in_Dresden
Fascism in various guises has been on the upswing in too many places. Witness Turkey. Witness LePen in France & Geert Wilders in the Netherlands. ISIS is just the Islamic version of fascism & Putin the Russian version.
Normalizing Nazis & White Supremacists as just another POV worthy of free speech is dangerously naive. Pandering to them from the Bully Pulpit is pure insanity & anybody with a shred of human decency needs to step up & say so. Some people will just put it in stronger violent terms.
This whole Oh-oh-oh! Antifa! So violent! routine is pure bullshit. Are they death camp violent? Are they lynching black people violent? The people they march against sure as Hell are, make no mistake about that.
Do you condone their attacking journalists, yes or no answer.
Journalistic street cred is irrelevant. I find it curious that you choose to rationalize attacking the person with the cell phone. Sucker punching anyone is the tactic of cowards.I don't condone anybody attacking journalists. I don't condone this, either, but would point out that he doesn't get any journo street cred filming with his cellphone-
http://wtvr.com/2017/08/14/cbs-6-journalist-attack-richmond-protest/
Journalistic street cred is irrelevant. I find it curious that you choose to rationalize attacking the person with the cell phone. Sucker punching anyone is the tactic of cowards.
You are starting to sound dangerously like the people you so despise.
But his cell phone...
LOL at Flussh Godwin Lawing himself every post.
There's a Nazi under every leftloon's bed these days.
But you felt the need to add a caveat.Gawd. I said I don't condone it.
But you felt the need to add a caveat.
LOL at Flussh Godwin Lawing himself every post.
There's a Nazi under every leftloon's bed these days.
Godwin's law doesn't apply when literally comparing Nazis to Nazis.Godwin's law basically states that comparisons of any group to Nazis & Hitler are absurd because Nazis are the worst, incomparable to any other group. That doesn't hold when you're talking about Nazis & their white supremacy co-religionists in the first place. They *are* the worst humanity has to offer.
Dunno. sounds a bit like nonsense, imo. One can't reflexively oppose antifa, and one can't really be said to be rational or irrational. I'm actually disgusted by that first article. I dare not click on the second.
None of the bullshit you flail against are actually Nazis. You may disagree with the politicians you listed, but they aren't nazis nor are you doing jack shit agaisnt any of them. (And certainly nothing against any real nazi, whoever that actually is. A couple of nutbags off in some compound somewhere. Your chances of getting struck by lightning is greater than ever actually running into one in everyday life.)Godwin's law basically states that comparisons of any group to Nazis & Hitler are absurd because Nazis are the worst, incomparable to any other group. That doesn't hold when you're talking about Nazis & their white supremacy co-religionists in the first place. They *are* the worst humanity has to offer.
None of you idiot pricks is engaged in any real fight againt nazis.
None of the bullshit you flail against are actually Nazis. You may disagree with the politicians you listed, but they aren't nazis nor are you doing jack shit agaisnt any of them. (And certainly nothing against any real nazi, whoever that actually is. A couple of nutbags off in some compound somewhere. Your chances of getting struck by lightning is greater of ever actually running into one in everyday life.)
Quite the opposite in some cases- you list ISIS of all things. Half the time someone kills a bunch of people under the banner of ISIS and many like you not only aren't fighting against them, you actively make excuses for them! (Oh they're just poor and picked on by the west, boo hoo!)
None of you idiot pricks is engaged in any real fight againt nazis.
And as far as totalitarianism... so long as it's totalitarianism spouting leftist drivel and 'get even with those who don't deserve what they have!!!' you can't get enough of authoritarian big government.
If any of you pricks was actually fighting (you're not lifting a finger in any case) against totalitarianism you might have someone ... you're merely pining away for the 'correct' form of it, and (mostly falsely) accusing anyone that's not it of being a 'nazi'.
It's your usually silly delusions, just you've taken up different slogans following the media by the ass, as always. "Hey today we're gonba fight Nazis!! How brave! Now go forth and label everything that!'
No. The professor's point was that if you do not support Antifa because they resort to violence, then you would not have supported the civil rights activists because they too have resorted to violence. What is astounding is that is not the argument made at all. What people say is that they like non-violent forms of protest and Antifa does not use those methods thus people do not generally like Antifa.The professor is trying to link Antifa and the Civil Rights activists as a way of guilting them into supporting Antifa. People are generally concerned about the methods used to gain the result. Antifa methods are generally violent, and not sometimes violent Civil Rights was mainly a product of non-violence with a generally agreed beneficial result. Antifa are generally violent with a stated goal of fighting fascism, but a reality of using fascist tools.
When someone disagrees with Antifa beliefs, they want to use the state to take away the freedoms of that person. If that does meet their wishes, they have no problem taking matters into their own hands to take away someones personal freedom. This is far from being generally true of Civil Rights activists.
Again, the professor used one type of non-violent method to encapsulate the entire movement. Civil Rights activists were the ones doing sit-ins, and that was not the only non-violent method they used. The professor knows this, but its easily one of the biggest things when people think of the movement. So he creates the link to the method and then says that the movement itself was also violent, just like Antifa so by not supporting people whom are "sometimes" violent like Antifa, you would also not likely support the Civil Rights activists as they were also sometimes violent. Where it gets even darker is when pushed and someone says violence is not the answer to the problem, he disagrees and literally defends using violence as if they are equitable when they are clearly not.
And those people are dumb and do not live in reality. There comes a time when violence is absolutely justified ergo WWII. When the situation stops being about spreading ideas, and people taking action violence may be needed to stop those actions. Debating, rallies, protests ect are only useful for stopping ideas. They do very little if anything when it comes to stopping actors from taking action beyond a certain point. Only a fool would say that Germany could have been stopped through any other means than total destruction, or that Japan would have surrendered had we not dropped two bombs on them.
Well I sure am glad that you have a clearer of understanding of the professors interactions with other people than even he does himself so that you can clarify to everyone what his motives and intentions are and that he is addressing something that he never encountered. You must be his best friend or stalker to have that kind of insight that you start by assuming everything he is saying is a lie.
Next time you can't think of any coherent reply, trying mouthing off like svnla or the various other trailer trash here.
LOL at Flussh Godwin Lawing himself every post.
There's a Nazi under every leftloon's bed these days.
You really have no idea, huh? Germany-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazi_marches_in_Dresden
Fascism in various guises has been on the upswing in too many places. Witness Turkey. Witness LePen in France & Geert Wilders in the Netherlands. ISIS is just the Islamic version of fascism & Putin the Russian version.
Normalizing Nazis & White Supremacists as just another POV worthy of free speech is dangerously naive. Pandering to them from the Bully Pulpit is pure insanity & anybody with a shred of human decency needs to step up & say so. Some people will just put it in stronger violent terms.
This whole Oh-oh-oh! Antifa! So violent! routine is pure bullshit. Are they death camp violent? Are they lynching black people violent? The people they march against sure as Hell are, make no mistake about that.
Oh yeah? Which death camps have been set up and which black people are being lynched? Go ahead and post it right here ------------->
The time to kick Nazi ass is before the camps are set up.Oh yeah? Which death camps have been set up and which black people are being lynched? Go ahead and post it right here ------------->
So do they ask you how your day has been or not?
No. The issue is that people are not understanding what he is saying. He is not disagreeing with me, its that others are. Its really surprising that you think I am understanding him differently than what he said. What makes you think he disagrees with what I have said?
Of course, these guys chanting "Jews will not replace us," doing Nazi salutes, holding signs and flags with swastikas, heavily armed and accommodated alongside and fully supported by a former KKK wizard weren't Nazis. They were peaceful conservatives who killed and injured the protestors who you called "idiot pricks" who just thought they were protesting against Nazis.
As aredneck cousin fucker and Nazi apologistguy of your intelligence you might need to be in the know before spouting this like a clueless idiot:
You're fighting alongside the Nazis, while spouting crap like that. Ironic.
As for the rest of your mindless and unrelated ramblings, take your meds, inbred.
They're usually pretending to be smart just like you. Eg:
If you had good reading comprehension you wouldn't still be one of those old guys in community college.
Oh yeah? Which death camps have been set up and which black people are being lynched? Go ahead and post it right here ------------->