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highland145

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I remember calling Dell tech support once and they guy on the other end was clearly not American yet he had a name like Bob or something like that. Dude, you aren't fooling anyone.
Had a telemarketer do the same a while back. I laughed and told him his name wasn't Fred. He insisted it was and I kept calling him on it/laughing until he hung up.
 

Perknose

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It's kind of a joke thread...

It's also "kind of" a xenophobic and even low-level racist thread.

As has been pointed out more than once:

1) Such names do exist in India. Imagine that!

2) Elsewise, these CSR's are instructed to assume an easily digested White Man Name.

Show some class. Show some empathy for these (low) wage drones. Please put a semi-mature check on your reactive intolerance. You're a much better man than that.
 

7window

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I tell them my name is raju patel and they ask me if I am indian. I tell them I am chinese. LOL They tell me to fuck off
 
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Carson Dyle

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Why would someone from India be calling me?

If it's a telemarketer, I don't care if it's Kanchan (the actual name of an Indian friend of mine) from Delhi or if it's Karl from Dallas, I'm hanging up after a few choice words.
 

Perknose

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I tell them my name is raju patel and they ask me if I am indian. I tell them I am chinese. LOL They tell me to fuck off

When a telemarketer tells you to fuck off, you've reached rock bottom, that special place that ferries fecal waste to the treatment plant, the sewer.

Try not to get any on 'ya, k?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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1) Such names do exist in India. Imagine that!

Which I mentioned more than once.

2) Elsewise, these CSR's are instructed to assume an easily digested White Man Name.

Did you bother to read the subsequent posts? Requiring the White Man Name as you call it is racism. How would you justify (as previously mentioned) Apple requiring Anand to change to Jimmy? I'll tell you what I did not do and that is give this guy a tough time, but yes I did hang up and while the name thing does annoy, I would have done it in the same length if he was from the John Birch Society, an you should know by now I would. Dell or whoever should bear the brunt of criticism for that, but then I knew that already.

Now if anyone who is from Indian extraction is offended by this thread they can PM me and I will apologize to them for wording things as I have and that is frankly more than I've seen others do, specious accusations notwithstanding. As far as intent, I know what I meant and I won't lie and plead guilty to racism when none was meant.
 

DesiPower

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I think the best course of action at this point would be to just STFU and let it die off...
 

Perknose

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...specious accusations notwithstanding.

In the six months before this thread, how many threads have you been moved to start? The answer is 3.

And yet, today, you have chosen to make this thread, complaining about Indian CSRs assuming middle class American names on the phone.

I know you meant it as a joke but if you don't see the underlying intolerant xenophobia that permeates and suffuses your "joke" like the ugly taste left throughout a big pot of just burnt homemade soup, I don't know what else to say.
 

Carson Dyle

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In the six months before this thread, how many threads have you been moved to start? The answer is 3.

And yet, today, you have chosen to make this thread, complaining about Indian CSRs assuming middle class American names on the phone.

I know you meant it as a joke but if you don't see the underlying intolerant xenophobia that permeates and suffuses your "joke" like the ugly taste left throughout a big pot of just burnt homemade soup, I don't know what else to say.(

Your opinion. I don't see it.
 

7window

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When a telemarketer tells you to fuck off, you've reached rock bottom, that special place that ferries fecal waste to the treatment plant, the sewer.

Try not to get any on 'ya, k?


Just be patient, dont feel bad and no need to rush. You will get that call too. LOL
 

Perknose

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Your opinion. I don't see it.

Yeah, I know. I get that. This is one of those divides, like so many in P&N, that seem impossible to breach.

I have to add, because it might look like otherwise, that I hold Haya in pretty high esteem, personally. It's probably why I go at him hard in cases like this . . . I tend to hold him to a pretty high standard.

And yet, around this general issue, he and I seem to be miles apart. Sucks, really.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Yeah, I know. I get that. This is one of those divides, like so many in P&N, that seem impossible to breach.

I have to add, because it might look like otherwise, that I hold Haya in pretty high esteem, personally. It's probably why I go at him hard in cases like this . . . I tend to hold him to a pretty high standard.

And yet, around this general issue, he and I seem to be miles apart. Sucks, really.

The joke may have been in poor taste, but you need to say one way or the other if you believe I was being racist. I've already said I would give a personal apology if I gave the impression to those who are affected by this issue.

If this is a stone you feel you can toss, then please do it now, and I will act accordingly.
 

Perknose

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The joke may have been in poor taste, but you need to say one way or the other if you believe I was being racist. I've already said I would give a personal apology if I gave the impression to those who are affected by this issue.

If this is a stone you feel you can toss, then please do it now, and I will act accordingly.

If you don't see that your joke (it sounded more like a testy complaint) was grounded in an unfortunate undertone of clumsy, culturally clueless xenophobia, so be it. I've already stated my opinion on the matter, as best I could.

I've made my feelings known. I haven't held back, but I'm not about to make any demands or ultimatums.

It wouldn't be me you'd be apologizing to, anyway.
 

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If you don't see that your joke (it sounded more like a testy complaint) was grounded in an unfortunate undertone of clumsy, culturally clueless xenophobia, so be it. I've already stated my opinion on the matter, as best I could.

I've made my feelings known. I haven't held back, but I'm not about to make any demands or ultimatums.

It wouldn't be me you'd be apologizing to, anyway.

Well you have and that's fair enough. I have appreciated the support you've shown me especially with my health issues, and it's been a good run. I want to thank those who I've interacted with over the years, and that of the other administrators, moderators, and members. I'll post my email so those who wish to keep in contact may do so. I'm not angry in the least and I'm not going to blame you or anyone else, but my presence on this world is tenuous and I have been considering moving on anyway.

No one should hold Perk responsible, as this is my choice. He has personally contacted me to check on my health and I will not say a word against him, but all good things must come to an end, and I want it known he nor anyone else has pressured me into this decision. I might look in occasionally, but I think I have outlasted my stay.

I wish the new owners, the staff and the members all the best in the world.

Those who wish may keep in touch by email

winstonsmith@gmail.com

It's been a hoot guys
 

pcgeek11

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Firstly, how the F do you know that they are Indian?
Secondly, its not of their choosing, the American company that hired then (directly/indirectly) wants some friendly names that they can pronounce or say easily, not because they want to disguise.
Thirdly, only cheap people who do business with cheap companies get calls from Indian call centers, or maybe you are Indian or doing business directly with Indian companies, mainly financial organization. So its your fault in the first place that you are getting calls from India. Myself, or anyone I know never get calls from Indian call center.

So... final word, get a life bigot.

A nerve was touched!
 

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Had a telemarketer do the same a while back. I laughed and told him his name wasn't Fred. He insisted it was and I kept calling him on it/laughing until he hung up.

Oh man that is cold hearted! You made him hang up?

What if his employer insisted he call himself Fred or he would get fired? What if his employer has a rule that he is not to hang up on a customer and he ends up getting canned? Then he goes and weeps quietly at his desk as he is packing his stuff into a cardboard box to take home with him where his wife and 2 children are waiting.

It was only his 3rd day on the job so he hasn't even had a chance to make 1 paycheck yet but at least he got his severance check right? Which he is planning to take straight to the bank and cash it to then go straight to the pharmacy to buy some medication because one of his kids has been sick lately. He'll also need to remember to pick up that loaf of bread so his wife and he and the other child have something to eat that night.

His tears drip down off of his face and onto that cardboard box containing his stuff now staining the cardboard with little dark tear spots. Inside the cardboard box are just a few things that don't matter much to you, but mean the world to him. A picture of his wife and children smiling taken last holiday. He is so proud of them and what his children could accomplish if he can just work hard enough to provide for them. He'd give his life for them in a heartbeat if it meant they would have a better life.

Now security will escort him out of the building and he notices that it is raining outside. He's glad for that so that if he runs into anyone on the way to the bank he is not ashamed as the rain drops mask the tears on that cardboard box and on his face. He just hopes that the rain doesn't soak through his thin jacket and soak the severance check he has in his jacket pocket. Things will be alright he says to himself. Get it together. Must be strong for the family, and the little one who will be helpless against the illness he suffers from without his medication. I will be strong, and so will my son. I will one day be proud of him after he makes it through this tough time. No one will notice the tears I shed with all this rain soaking my face and the cardboard box. Almost there, my feet ache...Can't wait till this day is over. I hope that man that gave me a hard time on the phone instead of just accepting my nickname and accepting my help has a better life than this. I have no hate toward him he says to himself. How could he have known?

How do you feel now? That hollow feeling in your chest does not mean you are heartless, it means quite the opposite in fact. If you feel that then I'm glad I could give you that gift.:'(
 
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Experience, not ignorance. I have worked in greater Atlanta area, greater Boston area and now in TX, I NEVER heard from anyone that they got a call from Indian tele marketer or call center after registering in do not call list. Bigots are ignorant, not me
I've been on the DNC list for many years. The telemarketers I get all sound like they come from a variety of places. I get the a-holes from other countries not caring about the violation, but the American-sounding a-holes advertising American small businesses doing it is just unacceptable.

For instance, Unlimited A-holes calls me. They are a local company. The first time and every time thereafter I've informed them a) we've never done business before, b) they are not a political group, non-profit group or religious group, and c) they are in violation of state and federal DNC statutes.

They all play the dumb (ahem, ignorant) card, but they continue to call. I'm at the point I am about to start recoding the dumb local companies that identify themselves so I can turn them into the Feds.
 

highland145

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Oh man that is cold hearted! You made him hang up?

What if his employer insisted he call himself Fred or he would get fired? What if his employer has a rule that he is not to hang up on a customer and he ends up getting canned? Then he goes and weeps quietly at his desk as he is packing his stuff into a cardboard box to take home with him where his wife and 2 children are waiting.

It was only his 3rd day on the job so he hasn't even had a chance to make 1 paycheck yet but at least he got his severance check right? Which he is planning to take straight to the bank and cash it to then go straight to the pharmacy to buy some medication because one of his kids has been sick lately. He'll also need to remember to pick up that loaf of bread so his wife and he and the other child have something to eat that night.

His tears drip down off of his face and onto that cardboard box containing his stuff now staining the cardboard with little dark tear spots. Inside the cardboard box are just a few things that don't matter much to you, but mean the world to him. A picture of his wife and children smiling taken last holiday. He is so proud of them and what his children could accomplish if he can just work hard enough to provide for them. He'd give his life for them in a heartbeat if it meant they would have a better life.

Now security will escort him out of the building and he notices that it is raining outside. He's glad for that so that if he runs into anyone on the way to the bank he is not ashamed as the rain drops mask the tears on that cardboard box and on his face. He just hopes that the rain doesn't soak through his thin jacket and soak the severance check he has in his jacket pocket. Things will be alright he says to himself. Get it together. Must be strong for the family, and the little one who will be helpless against the illness he suffers from without his medication. I will be strong, and so will my son. I will one day be proud of him after he makes it through this tough time. No one will notice the tears I shed with all this rain soaking my face and the cardboard box. Almost there, my feet ache...Can't wait till this day is over. I hope that man that gave me a hard time on the phone instead of just accepting my nickname and accepting my help has a better life than this. I have no hate toward him he says to himself. How could he have known?

How do you feel now? That hollow feeling in your chest does not mean you are heartless, it means quite the opposite in fact. If you feel that then I'm glad I could give you that gift.:'(
tldr;

but it looked good. You should write a book.




Did something similar to a nice young American lady...AT&T...at the end, "It wasn't me, it wasn't me." click
 

OBLAMA2009

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...don't tell me you name is Stanley. I don't believe you. I'm going to assume you are a telemarketer and hang up.

Ted, Sandra? Come on. Does everyone in India have middle class American name? What if they call the hood? "Hi, I'm Latresha"?

Calling wales? "High, this is Rhys". BS.

Just tell me the name you were frigging born with. If I can't say it then I don't care.

/rant

do you really want them to tell you their name is "jadgesh" or "rajinder". r u gonna remember that name if you have to complain to their supervisor?
 
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