If you are black in an open carry state and someone just THINKS you have a gun

HomerJS

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Ohio. The state that gave us, Tamir Rice Jordon Crawford III. Open carry state but if you are black police come and kill you or put you in custody.

Darren Cooper was sitting in his car on his phone, drinking tea. Woman calls the police "black man with a gun and this happens.



Meanwhile, Kyle Rittenhouse kills 2 protestors while people on the streets yell it to the cops and they allow him to skip right on by.



 

shortylickens

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Well, we already know a good chunk of white Americans are blind ignorant racists. we already know that the majority of police come from that same group of people and carry the mindset with them to work. This really isnt new.
What we need is a solution, and people keep claiming the federal government needs to step up and do something. But right now the federal government is run by either racists, or cowards who would much rather appeal to their racist voting block than do whats right for America as a whole.
My only shining light is maybe with Donald out of office there will be a culture shift in D.C. and maybe something positive might eventually come around. There is no guarantee of that. Honestly I dont know what to do about it. I really dont see solutions to many of our problems.
 

ivwshane

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Ohio. The state that gave us, Tamir Rice Jordon Crawford III. Open carry state but if you are black police come and kill you or put you in custody.

Darren Cooper was sitting in his car on his phone, drinking tea. Woman calls the police "black man with a gun and this happens.
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Meanwhile, Kyle Rittenhouse kills 2 protestors while people on the streets yell it to the cops and they allow him to skip right on by.





He looks scary! I bet he had a hoody on too!
 
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He looks scary! I bet he had a hoody on too!

Zero context. Zero backstory. But OP declares conclusion... except for some reason his conclusion is in the exact opposite of Kyle's.... Oh the irony!


"HE'S FUCKING GUILTY!!!!!"

Immediately Becomes

"HE'S FUCKING INNOCENT!!!!"



lolol
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Well, we already know a good chunk of white Americans are blind ignorant racists. we already know that the majority of police come from that same group of people and carry the mindset with them to work. This really isnt new.
What we need is a solution, and people keep claiming the federal government needs to step up and do something. But right now the federal government is run by either racists, or cowards who would much rather appeal to their racist voting block than do whats right for America as a whole.
My only shining light is maybe with Donald out of office there will be a culture shift in D.C. and maybe something positive might eventually come around. There is no guarantee of that. Honestly I dont know what to do about it. I really dont see solutions to many of our problems.


Some things that can be done in terms of police reform: a federal standard for training along with yearly testing/retesting. Training includes bias awareness training, de-escalation training, and situational response training.

A federal watch dog specifically for reporting bad cops who also keeps a national database of police interactions/infractions/discipline with a three strikes you are out rule and public reporting of findings. That same database is used as part of background checks.

End to qualified immunity.

Federal requirement for body and mics with benefit of the doubt laws siding with suspects when they aren't used or there is a malfunction.

A separate trained personnel for domestic or mental calls and wellness checks.

This last one is controversial but necessary; the ending of police unions. Their compensation should be directly tied to what the people in their community think.
 

shortylickens

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Some things that can be done in terms of police reform: a federal standard for training along with yearly testing/retesting. Training includes bias awareness training, de-escalation training, and situational response training.

A federal watch dog specifically for reporting bad cops who also keeps a national database of police interactions/infractions/discipline with a three strikes you are out rule and public reporting of findings. That same database is used as part of background checks.

End to qualified immunity.

Federal requirement for body and mics with benefit of the doubt laws siding with suspects when they aren't used or there is a malfunction.

A separate trained personnel for domestic or mental calls and wellness checks.

This last one is controversial but necessary; the ending of police unions. Their compensation should be directly tied to what the people in their community think.
OK.

And exactly how do you plan to GET all that?
 

HomerJS

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Zero context. Zero backstory. But OP declares conclusion... except for some reason his conclusion is in the exact opposite of Kyle's.... Oh the irony!


"HE'S FUCKING GUILTY!!!!!"

Immediately Becomes

"HE'S FUCKING INNOCENT!!!!"



lolol
Black man drinking tea in his car and using his phone. Woman calls cops claims gun. Police arrest.

What more context would you like? I list out how this guy was treated compared to Kyle Rittenhouse. Were you expecting me to make shit up to promote an agenda like you.? Sorry to disappoint.
 

conehead433

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At least they didn't shoot him. The woman should be charged for making a false police report.
 

Fourth Planet

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I’m pro second amendment but I generally disagree with open carry, it’s extremely intimidating and unnecessary and does nothing but raise tensions which leads to violence.

Edit: I hope I didn’t sound like I thought what happened to the guy in the OP was ok because it’s not. I just wanted to give my thoughts on open carry
 

nickqt

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Black man drinking tea in his car and using his phone. Woman calls cops claims gun. Police arrest.

What more context would you like? I list out how this guy was treated compared to Kyle Rittenhouse. Were you expecting me to make shit up to promote an agenda like you.? Sorry to disappoint.
Nobody is busy screaming at mirrors. He's not concerned with reality.
 
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shortylickens

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I’m pro second amendment but I generally disagree with open carry, it’s extremely intimidating and unnecessary and does nothing but raise tensions which leads to violence.

Edit: I hope I didn’t sound like I thought what happened to the guy in the OP was ok because it’s not. I just wanted to give my thoughts on open carry
thats nice but not the point here.

all across America white men are marching with rifles and screaming at cops and civilians.
nothing ever happens to them.
a black man with no gun gets harassed just for walking around.
 

alien42

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I’m pro second amendment but I generally disagree with open carry, it’s extremely intimidating and unnecessary and does nothing but raise tensions which leads to violence.

Edit: I hope I didn’t sound like I thought what happened to the guy in the OP was ok because it’s not. I just wanted to give my thoughts on open carry

do you believe race played a role here?
 

Fourth Planet

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do you believe race played a role here?

From what I read yeah I do, not by the police but by the woman that called the police. If it was a white guy she wouldn’t paid any attention to them I suspect but we have no way of knowing that. But what I don’t understand is why did the cops even bother responding, is it illegal to have guns there?
 

HomerJS

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Cuffing someone has zero indications of being arrested lol.

Try again dr. oppression.
Legal definition, stupid. Also even if he had a gun, it's a legal carry state. Police had no right to even question him. However Kyle Rittenhouse was allowed to walk right past cops after killing people while open carrying.
Arrest is the apprehending or detaining of a person in order to answer for an alleged or suspected crime.
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nickqt

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Legal definition, stupid. Also even if he had a gun, it's a legal carry state. Police had no right to even question him. However Kyle Rittenhouse was allowed to walk right past cops after killing people while open carrying.

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Nobody thinks he's very clever, punches himself in the face, then runs away.

He'll be showing up to deftly punch himself in the face soon, I'm sure.
 
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