If you buy illegal drugs you're supporting terrorism?

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jobberd

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<< anyone that buys drugs supports terrorism, plain and simple. Its a known fact. Over 90% of all drugs come from outside of US borders, so where all the money goes is beyond any of us. Is it that hard to believe that maybe Bin Laden sees some? Not really.

Drug users, yes even pot users, drain society. Have respect for your body.
>>

You're joking, right?
 

Red Dawn

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<< Drug users, yes even pot users, drain society. Have respect for your body. >>

You tell em Boy!! Of course don't forget to include Obese people, people who drink too much and people who smoke. Also people who are chronically ill drain society as do Metally Retarded people. Personally I can't stand people who fart to much. There's an air about them that bothers me.
 

kami

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The point is moot to me. Taking illegal substances like that is idiotic anyway!
 

AndrewR

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His statement is more true then the drugs one.
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the drug lords do have a lot of money from the drug trade, but that doesn't mean they are all terrorists.
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First of all, when has any "Columbian drug-load" ever committed an act of terrorism? The people committing the violence in Columbia, and other South ans Central American nations are the para-military groups supported by our tax dollars. For instance, the death squads that killed those Catholic priests and nuns a few years back.

Well, here are three examples of absolutely amazing ignorance, such that is RARELY seen even on AT. That might give some people an idea of the immensity of the problem you're seeing above.

Why don't you hop-headed drug-lovers do some research into FARC and ELN from Colombia. There are comparable groups in the other coca-producing countries, but those two, in particular FARC, are responsible for THOUSANDS of deaths in and beyond Colombia. The deaths of countless police officers, soldiers, judges, government officials, and innocent civilians. They are funded by drug money -- that's a FACT. No amount of hair splitting can maneuver around those facts. Drug money funds terrorism -- simple. The idiocy is that people see terrorism and only think of the Middle East.

Of course the same people that expound on the joys of drug use probably also decry the activities of groups like Los Pepes.

Even if you do think of the Middle East, Afghanistan has been one of the biggest producers of opium for some years now. Guess where a lot of that money wound up? India and Pakistan both have sizeable opium production also (some of which is legal in India, for medicinal production -- that's relatively minor though), a good portion of which is used to fund Islamic fundamentalists in the Kashmir and in the Punjab. Guess what -- those are terrorists, too.

Colombia drug cartels aren't involved with terrorism?!? That's about the most ignorant statement I have seen on here since I joined AT in 1999.
 

Red Dawn

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<< The point is moot to me. Taking illegal substances like that is idiotic anyway! >>

That's true but being idiotic doesn't mean you are supporting Terrorism. AndrewR is in the Armed Services but he doesn't support terrorism. Yet there are times the the American Armed Forces have commited terrorism. To support terrorism it has to be a conscientious effort, I don't givce a fsck what that bible thumping csckscker John Ashcrowt says
 

UltraQuiet

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<< Yet there are times the the American Armed Forces have commited terrorism. >>


We have? I've busted up a few bars overseas, maybe been with a girl I shouldn't have been with, but I wouldn't call it terrorism.


<< I don't givce a fsck what that bible thumping csckscker John Ashcrowt says >>


Tell us how you really feel.

Howya doin' Red?
 

Red Dawn

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Well they terrorized our enemies so it was ok Columbia, Nicaugra, El Salvador, Iraq and Iran to name a couple. The blames on our Politicians not our Military
 

UDT89

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basically everyone from this thread, with the exception of a few people, should just go buy a hut in afghanistan. Please do me a favor and the rest of the country, and leave.

If you really are having a rough time dealing with the US, i doubt you could live in any of the drug dealing countries for a day. Enjoy what you have, ex. freedom of speech, and deal with what i have to say. If you dont like it, like the rest of the drug users, BOUNCE OUTTA HERE.

I LOVE THE USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Kerouactivist

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I think the problem is that some of the freedoms that we are supposed to fully have become very limited through conservative(right wing) interpretation of the constitution.
 

her209

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So does this mean we are supporting communism as well since we buy stuff from China?
 

Red Dawn

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UDT89

<< basically everyone from this thread, with the exception of a few people, should just go buy a hut in afghanistan. Please do me a favor and the rest of the country, and leave. >>

Is it true they were able to see your head from outer space UDT89?
 

Merky2

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first of all, I agree with andrewR on the point that terrorism... isn't only a local phenomenon of the Middle East. Terrorism, by it's current definition, can be anywhere. But how do you define terrorism? As unpatriotic as this sounds... put yourself in the other person's shoes. Is the United States attack on that Afghan convoy who was loyal to the new interim president... Couldn't that be interpreted as terrorism? I mean... If it were the Afghans who accidentally blew up an American or an American soldier... There would be flaming sheeeeeeeeets to pay... no doubt about it... But when the Americans kill Afghans, it can always be overlooked. =(

Put yourself in other people's shoes... but I guess with the current turn of events... Too many people have their heads stuck in the dirt and are too overwhelmed by the incredible volume of propoganda we are exposed to.

I understand that drugs such as cocaine... supports terrorism originating from Southern America. And opium... supporting terrorism from the Middle East and SouthEast Asia....etc. The list can go on forever. But seriously... How does me going out to buy a little bit of ganja support terrorism?!?! I mean... the cheeba was grown in the guy's closet...

*scratch head* I'm merely trying to point out... that as usual... the system has found a way to exploit a sensitive topic... and intertwine it with a bit of anti-drug propoganda... to play out the image that "If you do any drugs... you're supporting terrorists".

Another thing... this thread has become a big drug-bashing fest. I mean... seriously... The majority of the people down a beer every now and then to relax... I do too, but my body isn't well-known to be able to handle alcohol. So I hit up a little vitamin T, H and C.

Just my 2 cents =)
 

MaxDepth

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That's why I keep stressing, "Buy American!!!"

See, if you buy the finest American pot (Kentucky Bluegrass, by the way) the only people you are supporting is Bubba, who's putting an brick addition to his double-wide, and Mary-Lou (Bubba's wife and sister), who'll be getting a bigger set of boobs. Hmm, maybe it all goes to Bubba in one way or another...

The one reason Grace Slick (of Jefferson Airplane - song, "White Rabbit") quit doing LSD is that she no longer knew who made the stuff. I heard her say in an interview that she could always bang on the door of neighbor and tell him that he sold her a bad trip. Nowadays, she doesn't know who to complain to...
 

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<< If you buy illegal drugs you're supporting terrorism? >>


Given the history of anti-drug efforts, are you surprised?

 
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they dont say what drugs support terrorism, herion maybe, cocaine maybe. weed not at all, most weed comes from mexico, canada or domestic. are these "terrorist" nations???
no its the fact that they bring this out after 9-11. what these guys werent "Terrorists" before now?
no one seemed to mind then.
yet another example of our government using a tragedy to further their cause or to try to justify a meaningless and vindictive drug "war".
 

AndrewR

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Given the history of anti-drug efforts, are you surprised?

Because the thought of another country wishing to be free of a bloody insurgency which has killed tens of thousands of people over many years is just a ridiculous notion, eh?
 

Brutuskend

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<< Just thought I'd add more fuel to the flame by posting this well informed and insightful article. >>



Nice find jobberd!

I wish everyone posting in this thread would READ that interview. (but of course few people will!)

They will continue to "tote the party line" so to speak.

If the Government say's something is true, then it MUST to true!

I have always thought just the opposite. But then I guess that's because I'm a child of the 60's.

PEOPLE! Question things! That's what protects your rights and freedoms in the long run!!

It may be a poor analogy, but look what happened to Germany in the 30's when people started believing the rhetoric that the "Government" feed them!
 

walrus

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This shows who is supporting terrorism;




In one of a pair of provocative anti-drug ads that debuted on the Super Bowl broadcast, a young drug user declares, ?I helped murder families in Colombia.?
Indeed he did. And still does. But not because ?Drug money supports terror,? so ?if you buy drugs you might too? -- the reason given in capital letters at the end of the Office of National Drug Control Policy message.

No, he is an accomplice in the murder of families by Colombian terrorists because he is a U.S. taxpayer. Our government lavishly funds a Colombian army that harbors, protects and conspires with an array of right-wing paramilitary death squads, known collectively as the AUC, that are responsible in recent years for approximately 75 percent of Colombia?s politically motivated killings. What the Taliban was to al-Qaida, the Colombian army is to the AUC.

Our State Department is well aware of the AUC?s depridations. The day before terrorists struck the Pentagon and the World Trade Center, Secretary of State Colin Powell designated the AUC a ?foreign terrorist organization,? or FTO. But that doesn?t mean Powell is out of step with the vast majority of Bush administration officials who couldn?t care less that the U.S.-sponsored Colombian army facilitates AUC massacres. Powell?s carefully crafted statement branding the AUC an FTO

The heroin trade has financed Afghanistan?s murderous Northern Alliance as well as the murderous Taliban. The Taliban, as awful as it was, apparently honored a U.N. request last year to suppress opium cultivation. Today, in areas where the Northern Alliance has regained control, planting is widespread and a bumper crop is anticipated. That wasn?t an intended outcome of the ?War on Terror,? but it certainly was predictable.

The illegal drugs most favored by American teens are alcohol (illegal until 21), tobacco (illegal until 18) and -- to a much lesser extent -- marijuana (illegal at any age). All three are produced domestically, yet even imported varieties bear scant relation to terrorism. Colombia?s big exports are cocaine and heroin. Fortunately, teen use of those dangerous drugs is miniscule.

Alcohol doesn?t finance terrorism, but it is the drug most likely to kill the teenagers



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