If you discovered your unborn baby would have Down syndrome

[Dracos]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: hdeck
anyone that would abort a baby for that reason should not plan to have children.

Think for a second: having a child with Down's means you get an adult-sized person (with adult hormones...which is a whole other "fun" issue) who's more or less permanently 8 years old and will require full-time care from you and your spouse for what may be the rest of your lives. Not everyone is willing or able to commit to that.

Actually where I stay there are programs for Down syndrome adult that allow them to integrate into the society, teaches them to take care of themselves by getting jobs and living on their own.

 

[lokiju]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I would abort. But, that's easier to say when not actually facing the situation.

Same thought here.

 

[bobbybe01]

Hey, if you don't want the child why not place it up for adoption? There are many couples that are unable to have children on their own that would welcome such a child into their lives.

 

[Asharus]

Good idea.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: cchen

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: bobbybe01

Nice choice of words, Mr Whitman.

I know, I know. I just wanted to make a point.

Your eloquence is boundless.

As is your lack of compassion

WTF are you talking about? I never stated that I would opt for abortion of a child who would be born with Downs, I merely pointed out why some would give it serious consideration.

BTW, do you have kids?

 

[ThePresence]

This thread is starting to remind me of some of the pre P&N flamefests.

 

[WobbleWobble]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I would abort. But, that's easier to say when not actually facing the situation.

That and I'm not the woman who's actually carrying the baby.

 

[Ranger X]

Abort.

 

[rh71]

those who've worked with / lived with down syndrome children/adults... have you ever heard their opinion on what they think of life ? (serious question... wondering about the "personally I wouldn't want to go through life with down syndrome" comment).

 

[Dracos]

My daughter isn't old enough to ask that question....she is just 7 and enjoying life...

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
This thread is starting to remind me of some of the pre P&N flamefests.

Well what'd you expect?

Fausto's Flaming Threadcakes

Ingredients

[*]One controversial topic
[*]uninformed, yet rabidly defended opinions
[*]internet anonymity


Bake at 350 degrees for 4-8 pages or until Moderatorial intervention declares doneness.

 

[cchen]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: cchen

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: bobbybe01

Nice choice of words, Mr Whitman.

I know, I know. I just wanted to make a point.

Your eloquence is boundless.

As is your lack of compassion

WTF are you talking about? I never stated that I would opt for abortion of a child who would be born with Downs, I merely pointed out why some would give it serious consideration.

BTW, do you have kids?

Actually I don't but I've basically raised my youngest brother who has down syndrome

 

[JulesMaximus]

Honestly, I couldn't say for sure what I would do unless I was in that situation. It would be a very difficult decision to make.

 

[Haps]

Down Syndrome make sit a much more complicated question because aborting the baby would be for the convenience of the parents. That child will in their mind live a perfectly happy life.

However if the child was going to be born wioth other complications would you abort knowing that if you don't your child will live their life facing pain & hardship due to disease or being crippled.

 

[nageov3t]

in the most objective sense, I would. unless we're talking like 3rd trimester or something, I don't see anything wrong with abortion.

but since I've never been in the situation, have no kids, and can never know what it's like to be pregnant, it's more of a hypothetical yes than anything. without being in the situation, there's no way to know.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: cchen

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: cchen

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: bobbybe01

Nice choice of words, Mr Whitman.

I know, I know. I just wanted to make a point.

Your eloquence is boundless.

As is your lack of compassion

WTF are you talking about? I never stated that I would opt for abortion of a child who would be born with Downs, I merely pointed out why some would give it serious consideration.

BTW, do you have kids?

Actually I don't but I've basically raised my youngest brother who has down syndrome

"Basically raised" and "raised" aren't the same thing. You could always hand him off to mom/dad if he was too much for you to deal with at some point. Imagine not having that option and then imagine not having that option forever. That's where I'm coming from. Again, this isn't necessarily my personal opinion, just an observation.

 

[DannyLove]

in a heart beat

 

[Gurck]

I have no beliefs, religious or otherwise, that abortion is in any way bad (isn't masturbating for men or menstruating for women the same thing? You're wasting/killing all that sperm & all those eggs either way... well, whatever) and so for me it's easy to vote abort. Further, people with downs syndrome don't go blithely through life while only their families feel stress; they're generally well aware of the fact that there's something amiss. I agree that they're most often very sweet people, but my vote remains; in the long run, abortion is less painful for everyone involved. Final decision wouldn't be mine though, of course - I'm male.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: CPA
True story.


My wife's third pregnancy - The doc thought there was something unusual about the ultrasound. Sent my wife to a specialist. Specialist says it looks like there is a shunt forming in the womb (this is not good - leads to mental and physical deficiencies). My wife was in tears, was shaken for days. Didn't know what to do or to expect. Specialist did other tests and couldn't come to a definite conclusion. Few weeks later, go back to specialist. WHOOPS, they made a mistake. Not a shunt, just how the baby was laying at the time. Baby girl came out fine. At no time, though, did I EVER think about aborting her.

that's little different than know for sure that your unborn has down syndrome...

Sure it is, but my point is that even if the evidence came back that is was a shunt, I would not have changed my mind.

When my wife was 7 months pregnant with our son the doctors told us that they detected an irregular heartbeat and had us go to a special unit at Scripps hospital to have a level 2 ultrasound done (they do a detailed scan, measuring internal organs and such-takes like 2 hours). Apparently, his heart was skipping a beat about every 4 beats and they thought his heart wasn't forming properly and that he may have had a heart defect.

We were told this on a Wednesday and couldn't have the procedure done until Friday. We went through almost 2 days of hell waiting and it turned out that everything was fine and this is fairly common.

My son is almost 2 now and he's perfectly healthy.

 

[cchen]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: cchen

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: cchen

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: bobbybe01

Nice choice of words, Mr Whitman.

I know, I know. I just wanted to make a point.

Your eloquence is boundless.

As is your lack of compassion

WTF are you talking about? I never stated that I would opt for abortion of a child who would be born with Downs, I merely pointed out why some would give it serious consideration.

BTW, do you have kids?

Actually I don't but I've basically raised my youngest brother who has down syndrome

"Basically raised" and "raised" aren't the same thing. You could always hand him off to mom/dad if he was too much for you to deal with at some point. Imagine not having that option and then imagine not having that option forever. That's where I'm coming from. Again, this isn't necessarily my personal opinion, just an observation.

Yes, I can imagine that option, and imo, you have to deal with what life gives you instead of running away. I've already decided (actually decided in HS) that I would take care of my brother his entire life because he means that much to me.

 

[azazyel]

never mind

 

[Mill]

I cannot answer the question. I do not have sufficient experience, so I can only rely on my emotion.

 

[Twista]

I would abort. Def.

 

[Spamela]

absolutely NOT.
every life is worthwhile.

 

[skace]

Ok first off, anyone making this choice has to realize something. There are only A FEW PEOPLE in this world who have the patience and understanding to take care of a Down Syndrom patient. Seriously. This isn't a fvcking joke. It isn't like picking the color of your socks. Like someone else said, it would be like taking care of an 8 year old FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVES. Even more so since some 8 year olds are pretty smart.

And not only that, you cannot trust your child to the same level of care as other kids. You will have trouble taking time off, you will not have a life outside of home life.

You have to think about that and dwell on it for awhile before you can even think about making a choice.

Now, I've got to wonder. Tomato, are you pregnant?