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Paladin3

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Largely great post. I do have a couple of nitpicks though. Are you saying peanut butter is a carb? Put on some good whole grain bread, its actually a great healthy snack. Expecting people used to our flavor overloaded modern foods to be able to go to eating skinless chicken breast is, in my opinion, absurd and showing a serious lack of understanding why its so damn hard to make such a transition (yes, it is big enough that an average person would say they'd rather die than to switch to that level of healthy eating; something I've heard a lot of people say). I have actually done that myself, at one point I ate incredibly healthy - basically no sweets, no fast foods, baked fish fillets, straight tuna out of cans after workout, lean ham (underrated for healthy food I think, but I find chicken and turkey to be less palatable), plain potatoes, measured out my cereal, etc but I was goddamn miserable and outright hated thinking about food (and you realize how integral food is to social gatherings, making those miserable as well - to this day I'm a loner when it comes to eating). I'm also not sure that going on such a crash diet change is healthy either. It might be warranted in the OP's case, but I'd rather leave that up to a doctor (that yes he needs to be going to ASAP).

But I agree, make changes. Get off your but, get moving. Eat better. Replace chips and fries with baked potatoes (with toppings, and gradually reduce the toppings over time). Replace candy with some fruit (seriously, bananas are pretty damn cheap, as are other fruits in season, and you can buy frozen, and put in little containers and let thaw out over night in the fridge). Cut back on the pop any way you can (go cold turkey if that works). Load up on veggies. Get peanuts (they're cheap and filling, and if you have to crack shells it'll help limit how quickly you eat while also burning some calories). Drink lots of water. Prepare meals instead of eating conveniently. Find some good hearty whole gran bread, put some honey on it for a snack.

Another good tip is catalogue all the food you eat. It'll help you realize how much you're eating, how bad you're eating, and it'll take effort and time (that you might otherwise be mindlessly eating).
Find distractions (but don't just substitute one unhealthy thing for another; gaming is good but you need to be active some).
Call up Rossman (just not for 8 hours a day )
Seek support groups. I don't give a shit if you're a furry that likes being rode like a horse, there are people out there that wouldn't put you down for that.

Peanut Butter is about 3g of carbs per tbsp. Bread and jelly just make it worse. Subbing out fries for a baked potato is the lesser of two evils since there are almost 40g of carbs in a baked potato before you even add anything to it. Peanuts have 24g of carbs per cup.

The OP needs to hate food, or at least sugar and carbs. It's like heroin to him. It's his drug that he abuses to make himself feel temporarily better and ignore his problems, if he is anything like me. He probably eats when he doesn't even feel hungry. To the point that he sometimes makes himself sick. I do.

When you create large amounts of sugar in your blood by overeating the body responds by producing crazy amounts of insulin to compensate. Do it once in awhile and you are fine. Do it daily, combine it with lack of exercise, and you get type 2 diabetes where the body stops responding to the insulin and the cells can't absorb any of the glucose for energy. This compounds over time and results in crazy high blood sugar levels that make you feel tired and struggle to stay awake. It also triggers your body's craving for more food, specifically carbs.

Sure, a small change in diet is good, but the OP is drowning. He needs drastic diet changes and to see a doctor now. Eating a baked potato is not the answer. Fuck breads, whole grain and otherwise. Any drink with more than zero calories is also absolutely out.

Yesterday I skipped breakfast and had a single hot dog with mustard for lunch. Not three hot dogs, or a giant sausage dog with chili and cheese with a side of fries and 64oz of soda. When I got home I made Cajun style dirty rice with beans and ground beef. But I stopped myself at one normal sized bowl, not the three bowls I would have had in the past. This is plenty of food and calories for me. Then I had to distract myself or I knew I would continue to eat. I went down to the lake and fished for a few hours before bed. Anything to ignore my heroin (food) habit.

We're not talking about shaving a few pounds off of the OP, we're talking about life vs losing limbs and/or stroking out and eventual death. He's not pre-diabetic. From what he describes it's the same thing I went through in 2000 when I was diagnosed: he's been diabetic for some time and the 2L of soda per day, plus food, has his blood glucose levels off the chart.

His body can no longer even handle the normal levels of sugar/carbs that a healthy person might. Even something like the sugar in carrots could spike him if he eats enough. A summertime peach is out. A bagel and cream cheese is out. At least for now.

Once he gets treatment and a doctor puts him on meds, and if he is getting enough exercise, then he MAY be able to reintroduce some of these foods to his diet, but he's damaged his body to the point he can no longer eat whatever he wants to. PB&J is definitely out for now.

If you don't have health insurance that will cover the supplies, here is a meter and 50 strips at Walmart for less than $20: https://www.walmart.com/ip/ReliOn-Prime-Blood-Glucose-Monitoring-System-Blue/20752266
https://www.walmart.com/ip/ReliOn-Prime-Blood-Glucose-Test-strips-50-ct/20752265

Go. Now. Get thee to a doctor. All the pity, advice and well-wishes in the world won't save you if you do nothing. Good luck.
 

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Diabetes doesn't kill you outright. It's blinds you first, or causes peripheral nephropathy and you won't be able to walk because of the pain in your feet and legs. You might loose feeling in your fingers and hands. You might get sores that won't heal on your legs and lower body. Your penis will stop being your friend and can actually start to rot. Eventually you lose a limb or have a stroke and live partially paralyzed. Then it might kill you.

Your "brain tumor" and falling asleep is probably caused by sleep apnea where you stop breathing in your sleep. It keeps you from entering the really restful REM sleep as you describe and makes you tired so you fall asleep during the day. It makes you irritable and unable to think clearly.

Please do not give medical advice. Diabetes can be diagnosed first with the onset of hyperosmolar coma or diabetic ketoacidosis which indeed can be fatal or cause permanent disability.

Additionally, sleep apnea or even diabetes are reasonable considerations, but there are many many other things which may be causing his symptoms. You nor I can or should attempt to diagnose based on the things said here.

To OP: seek medical attention

<-- actual doctor
 

BurnItDwn

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Please do not give medical advice. Diabetes can be diagnosed first with the onset of hyperosmolar coma or diabetic ketoacidosis which indeed can be fatal or cause permanent disability.

Additionally, sleep apnea or even diabetes are reasonable considerations, but there are many many other things which may be causing his symptoms. You nor I can or should attempt to diagnose based on the things said here.

To OP: seek medical attention

<-- actual doctor

My father lost his girlfriend to diabetes. They had been together for 10+ years after both of them had their 2nd divorces. She was never diagnosed as diabetic, though she should have gone to a doctor but kept procrastinating due to fear and anxiety. One morning, she didn't wake up. She had died due to diabetic coma in her sleep. Terrible loss, she was a great lady, only in her early 60s. Her 2 grown sons from her 1st marriage are starting families of their own. Their kids will never get to know their grandmother. Really truly sad and awful in every way.
 

Paladin3

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Please do not give medical advice. Diabetes can be diagnosed first with the onset of hyperosmolar coma or diabetic ketoacidosis which indeed can be fatal or cause permanent disability.

Additionally, sleep apnea or even diabetes are reasonable considerations, but there are many many other things which may be causing his symptoms. You nor I can or should attempt to diagnose based on the things said here.

To OP: seek medical attention

<-- actual doctor
Yes, none of us are doctors and nothing posted here should be taken as medical advice, which can only come from an actual doctor. I'll stand by what I posted because it's my personal experience, but I made a lot of assumptions in what I said. I'm not a doctor and have no way of knowing what is actually wrong with the OP.

OP MUST SEE A DOCTOR ASAP. Those are classic symptoms of type 2 diabetes and sleep apnea, but it's impossible to know for sure without seeing a doctor.

If OP refuses or doesn't understand how serious his symptoms could be, I hope something I shared about what has happened to me scares him into doing so. It's your life we are talking about, and we can be pretty cavalier about our health until it's too late. Don't let that happen to you.
 
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BoomerD

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I second this. I haven't been laid in two years and no women will give me sex. Am going lightweight insane and im not quite sure how much longer ill be able to post meme pics due to consitent lack of bloodflow to my brain over my constant raging boners.

Health issues are imminent, if i die thank you all for my computer knowhow and witty banter.




This is a serious thread. WTF is wrong with you?


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I have a hard time taking posts like this seriously. If the OP really thinks there's something wrong...why the fuck isn't he seeing a doctor and trying to fix the problem?

I ALWAYS suspect trolls.

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I have a hard time taking posts like this seriously. If the OP really thinks there's something wrong...why the fuck isn't he seeing a doctor and trying to fix the problem?

I ALWAYS suspect trolls.

Read @BurnItDwn post above. Plenty often when people are afraid of potentially serious medical problems they are scared to seek appropriate attention. This still may be trolling, but there's good reason to take it seriously regardless.
 

VirtualLarry

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I'm still here. No this thread wasn't a troll, I really am experiencing symptoms. I don't really want to go to the ER though. My local ER tends to send me to their psych ward when I show up. (Can't really risk that right now.)

The sleep apnea may well explain things. I was hospitalized in, I think, April, and my A1C was "normal" (not diabetic). They did notice some issues with my heart, though. Which might have something to do with all of this.

What I am experiencing, is much like a computer with a flaky power supply. You can be using it, then it suddenly reboots, and then you're back where you were at the desktop.
 

Red Squirrel

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If you choose not to see a doctor, at very least lay off the sugar.

I had a scare about a year ago where I thought I was maybe getting prediabetes. It was not that, doctor never figured out what my issue was and it went away on it's own, but it did open up my eyes to the fact that I need to start watching what I eat more. My biggest thing was to slow down on empty calories, pop is the biggest culprit.

Next step is to try to stop eating processed stuff. That's pretty bad too.
 

BoomerD

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I'm still here. No this thread wasn't a troll, I really am experiencing symptoms. I don't really want to go to the ER though. My local ER tends to send me to their psych ward when I show up. (Can't really risk that right now.)

The sleep apnea may well explain things. I was hospitalized in, I think, April, and my A1C was "normal" (not diabetic). They did notice some issues with my heart, though. Which might have something to do with all of this.

What I am experiencing, is much like a computer with a flaky power supply. You can be using it, then it suddenly reboots, and then you're back where you were at the desktop.

Then, by all means, find a good doctor. Not an ER, not an urgent care, find a good primary care physician. Let him/her set the tests for you to get...and give you the results. If they don't find anything...keep looking...and, could it possibly be anxiety? "Panic attacks" can be hella debilitating for some people. Many people think it's a heart attack and staunchly deny it could be a panic attack. (Tony Soprano is just one exaggerated example)

FWIW, I DO understand the reluctance to see a doctor about things. I had what I still think was a mild heart attack about 7 years ago, but with money being VERY tight...and no insurance, I just toughed it out without seeing a doctor...not smart, but you couldn't have drug me to a hospital for tests...fuck that. Smart? Nope...not at all.

My current doctor makes me get an exam every 6 months and blood work done once a year when I refill my blood pressure meds. I think they see me and other patients as sources of revenue for the medical group. The last time, my blood sugar was slightly elevated. They wanted me in for a battery of tests. I said "NO. I'm not going to do that. I'll see you in 6 months for my next visit."
 
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shortylickens

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If you choose not to see a doctor, at very least lay off the sugar.

I had a scare about a year ago where I thought I was maybe getting prediabetes. It was not that, doctor never figured out what my issue was and it went away on it's own, but it did open up my eyes to the fact that I need to start watching what I eat more. My biggest thing was to slow down on empty calories, pop is the biggest culprit.

Next step is to try to stop eating processed stuff. That's pretty bad too.

I finally got diabetes from not taking care of myself. It was a wake up call. Somewhat frightening. But fear can make you turn your life around.

The problem with cancer is that you can be doing everything right and still get it.
The number one factor is a genetic predisposition to cancer, not your lifestyle. But of course science knows there are also risk factors.

Mom has cancer. She's doing fine but its terrifying for both of us. She never did anything unhealthy. Its not her fault and she couldnt have prevented it. Just the way life is. We are coping, and also I am learning to be a little more compassionate to humans in general.
 

PowerEngineer

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What I am experiencing, is much like a computer with a flaky power supply. You can be using it, then it suddenly reboots, and then you're back where you were at the desktop.

Larry, you should not be taking comfort in this analogy you've drawn between computer hardware and the human body. Your body parts are not easily replaced (if replaceable at all); you really need to make the ones you have last. And when a human body shuts down, successful reboots are rare. You need to face your physical problems and do something about them. The first step is get yourself in to see your doctor.
 

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"373 lbs. . . hospitalized in, I think, April, and my A1C was "normal" (not diabetic)."

You are EXTREMELY fortunate!
 
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ibex333

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I've either died due to a brain tumor, or my mother is / has been poisoning me. Or I've developed diabeetus, and I don't know.

Something's definitely not right with my brain, and I've been having mini-blackouts for the last few months, and today, my consciousness feels like it's slipping away. I "wake" a few seconds / minutes later, and wonder whether this is going to be my last.

If I do pass, then I'd just like to say, "Thanks for all the posts". This has been my online home for the last 10+ years. Hopefully I haven't pissed too many of you off. That is all.

PS. I know that Jen wasn't feeling well either, and I haven't heard from her for a while now, I'm fearing the worst in her case as well.


Larry, don't say that. IF it's some kind of a joke, it's not funny.

Your symptoms could be nervous system/blood vessels related. I developed horrific headaches when I was about 14 years old after playing too much video games and living a hermit lifestyle. Panic attacks and all kinds of other weird symptoms followed. I finally developed agoraphobia, dropped out for school, and couldn't be outside by myself at all. I suffered non stop for 11 years, and no one really figured out what was wrong with me. I was literally losing my mind. What eventually helped were lifestyle changes, getting older, a change of diet, exercise and large doses of vitamin B complex.

I still fight bouts of this stuff every now and then, and unfortunately I got diabetes. But there's light in the end of every tunnel. Even if a person dies. Nothing ever is the ultimate end, but if you want to stay in this life, stop all the sugar, especially Mt. Dew which is pure poison. Stop the pasta, rice, potatoes and white bread. Spend some time walking outside every single day or at least few times a week for now. Don't spend more than 6 hours per day with the computer.

If you cant afford it, take up yoga or tai-chi.
 

VirtualLarry

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Well, I pretty-much stopped the Mt. Dew proper, although I've had a "Mt. Dew Spiked" or two thus far. (not nearly as bad for you, but I can't confirm that it is "Good" for you either.)

Ate a salad, had some chicken breasts, had some P&P loaf sandwiches on wheat bread.

Also got better sleep the last few days.

So, I seem to be "healing", as I haven't felt much pressure in the back of my head lately, nor have I had bouts of spontaneous dreaming and snapping back to consciousness.

Still, I'm going to see my primary-care doctor after the long weekend is over, or at least, I'm going to make an appt. Probably also a sleep doctor, as I think that the sleep apnea angle has some merit.
 
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lxskllr

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Good start. Keep it up. Guy I work with is an alcoholic and smokes too much. He got a scare awhile ago at the doctor's, and made some changes. Those changes are a lost memory. Don't be like him.
 

TeeJay1952

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Dude, You give some of the most common sense,simple deduction computer fixes and neglect the human ones? Be careful or you will have to reboot.
 

Zanovar

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I've either died due to a brain tumor, or my mother is / has been poisoning me. Or I've developed diabeetus, and I don't know.

Something's definitely not right with my brain, and I've been having mini-blackouts for the last few months, and today, my consciousness feels like it's slipping away. I "wake" a few seconds / minutes later, and wonder whether this is going to be my last.

If I do pass, then I'd just like to say, "Thanks for all the posts". This has been my online home for the last 10+ years. Hopefully I haven't pissed too many of you off. That is all.

PS. I know that Jen wasn't feeling well either, and I haven't heard from her for a while now, I'm fearing the worst in her case as well.

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slayer202

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Well, I pretty-much stopped the Mt. Dew proper, although I've had a "Mt. Dew Spiked" or two thus far. (not nearly as bad for you, but I can't confirm that it is "Good" for you either.)

Ate a salad, had some chicken breasts, had some P&P loaf sandwiches on wheat bread.

Also got better sleep the last few days.

So, I seem to be "healing", as I haven't felt much pressure in the back of my head lately, nor have I had bouts of spontaneous dreaming and snapping back to consciousness.

Still, I'm going to see my primary-care doctor after the long weekend is over, or at least, I'm going to make an appt. Probably also a sleep doctor, as I think that the sleep apnea angle has some merit.

make and keep the appointment. all the stress beforehand will be worth it.

glad to hear the diet changes. it's hard, bad food is awfully addictive but if you get into a habit of eating cleaner that will become second nature. and avoiding the feeling of oncoming death will hopefully be enough to keep you on that path
 

VirtualLarry

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Well, I tried calling my primary doc at 9:02AM, but they don't answer their direct number until 9:30AM, apparently.

So I went outside, and took a walk around the parking lot. Although, I've had a few Mt. Dew White/Black/Green Label drinks in the mornings to wake me up. Stopped drinking (well, except for like one, maybe two swigs, to empty a bottle) Mt. Dew proper.

Found out that the heart condition that my mother heard about from my last hospital stay, was in actuality not a diagnosed condition at all, but only something that the doctor offered as a possible explanation for the symptoms my mother described. Meaning, that I may not have it at all. I try to tell my mother that "facts are important", but she seems to navigate by "the feels". And if it "feels" to her like I have a condition, then I have a condition, regardless of whether I've actually been diagnosed by a medical professional or not. Because my mother "feels" like a medical professional, "because she's read books". (Not to mention, "statements by doctors", over the internet (internet ads), pushing their own brand of supplement, that she takes as gospel, "because they're doctors". Yeah, Doctors used to recommend smoking, too. Follow the money, mom, don't be stupid by "feels".)

Edit: Yeah, ate a second salad last night too. Tasted really good. I need to pick up a few more, either at the new local grocery store, or the convenience store I go to.
 
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