If you get hit up for coin from a bum

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trinketsummoner

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Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Chompman
You haveto remember lot of the bums are professional bums and make a good living off it and don't have to pay any in taxes.

Can make 40k+ easy doing this and even though it's illegal they still let this happen.

Bullsh|t.


There was a program in the UK a few years back that followed some "bums" around in various cities. One guy who looked like he had slept on the streets for years thought no one was looking at the end of the day and went back to his brand new car and drove home to a nice house. Im sure there are genuine needy people out there but certainly in the big cities at the "money making" spots theres professional bums making $$$$$.
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: Chompman
You haveto remember lot of the bums are professional bums and make a good living off it and don't have to pay any in taxes.

Can make 40k+ easy doing this and even though it's illegal they still let this happen.

Bullsh|t.
Ohh, the tried and true "bullsh!t" response. You just owned him, eh? Guess you never saw that 60 minutes (may be a different show) where they exposed several "full-time" panhandlers. One guy was driving a BMW.

Ever see that 60 minutes episode where they exposed several "full-time" con-men. One of them was even the CEO of a large corporation.

...and that relates to Atheus calling BS when Chompman said bums can make a good living off of pandhadling how exactlly?

Reading comprehension is stressed in school for a reason you know.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: DBL
Ever see that 60 minutes episode where they exposed several "full-time" con-men. One of them was even the CEO of a large corporation.

...and that relates to Atheus calling BS when Chompman said bums can make a good living off of pandhadling how exactlly?

Reading comprehension is stressed in school for a reason you know.

I was hoping you figure it out for yourself but I guess I'll have to do the work for you.

Basically, a small minority of homeless make a good living by panhandling just as a small minority of CEO?s commits fraud. Pointing to one example, which happened to make it on to TV BECAUSE IT WAS EXTREME does not prove ones point. Get it?


 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: DBL
Ever see that 60 minutes episode where they exposed several "full-time" con-men. One of them was even the CEO of a large corporation.

...and that relates to Atheus calling BS when Chompman said bums can make a good living off of pandhadling how exactlly?

Reading comprehension is stressed in school for a reason you know.

I was hoping you figure it out for yourself but I guess I'll have to do the work for you.

Basically, a small minority of homeless make a good living by panhandling just as a small minority of CEO?s commits fraud. Pointing to one example, which happened to make it on to TV BECAUSE IT WAS EXTREME does not prove ones point. Get it?
I don't give CEOs $ for being needy, nor do I see them pandhandling, so no I don't get it. It's not a valid comparison.

A: You assume it's a small minority.
B: You neglect the fact you CAN make a living off of it, a VERY nice one.
C: BMW, I don't drive one, and I work full time. Anyone driving those (like your CEOs) doesn't need any extra attention from me. CEOs don't get my pocket change, and neither do bums.
 

tweakmm

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If someone will ask me for money and I have it I will give them some change or a buck. I don't care what they use it for, chances are if they are going to buy drugs I was too.
 

DaShen

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I don't give them a coin. I stop by a gas station and buy them some food or a drink (non-alcoholic).
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: Hammer
i usually don't give anything. i give money to shelters. a couple of weeks ago though, i saw a pregnant woman with a sign that said 'hungry. will work for food'. i gave her $5.


Bad idea. She will probably get smokes and hurt the baby. Get food for her instead. It isn't taht much out of the way. You spend 5-10 min. of your time and therefore guarantee that the baby at least won't be brain damaged because of the charity you give the mother.
 

DaveSimmons

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The Soylent Corporation has a program that could end homelessness almost overnight, but the bleeding heart liberals in America keep threatening to fillibuster the spending bill in congress.

If the Republicans can increase their majority in the senate in '06 we may finally see the program start up in '07.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Nik
What percentage of homeless people are paranoid schizophrenics? A fraction of a percent, I'd bet ya. But, in all honesty, who freakin cares. We're too busy sending BILLIONS of dollars in aid to Africa, enabling Africa to keep on fvcking around, spreading disease, and killing themselves off to bother taking care of our own.

I've read that about 30% are mentally ill. That's a significant % that should not be on the streets.

I read that 90% of them are homeless because they don't want to get a job and somewhere else about most stats being made-up on the spot.
 

Bozono

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
If someone will ask me for money and I have it I will give them some change or a buck. I don't care what they use it for, chances are if they are going to buy drugs I was too.


FTW.
Don't believe the people who say these folks make $200 a day. Not true. They may pull $30-40 on a good day IF the're out there all day, which they aren't. Most call it quits around $20 or so.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: Bozono
Originally posted by: tweakmm
If someone will ask me for money and I have it I will give them some change or a buck. I don't care what they use it for, chances are if they are going to buy drugs I was too.


FTW.
Don't believe the people who say these folks make $200 a day. Not true. They may pull $30-40 on a good day IF the're out there all day, which they aren't. Most call it quits around $20 or so.
What does this have to do with what I said?
 

digiram

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Originally posted by: CTrain
I've actually only gave a handout 1 time ever.
It was dark in a shopping center and I see this Asian guy sitting in a corner and I felt so bad for the guy, I gave him $5.

That guy was me....Thanks. I needed to hit that crack so bad.....OMG...
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Bozono
Originally posted by: tweakmm
If someone will ask me for money and I have it I will give them some change or a buck. I don't care what they use it for, chances are if they are going to buy drugs I was too.


FTW.
Don't believe the people who say these folks make $200 a day. Not true. They may pull $30-40 on a good day IF the're out there all day, which they aren't. Most call it quits around $20 or so.
Because they're lazy bums?
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Nik
What percentage of homeless people are paranoid schizophrenics? A fraction of a percent, I'd bet ya. But, in all honesty, who freakin cares. We're too busy sending BILLIONS of dollars in aid to Africa, enabling Africa to keep on fvcking around, spreading disease, and killing themselves off to bother taking care of our own.

I've read that about 30% are mentally ill. That's a significant % that should not be on the streets.

I read that 90% of them are homeless because they don't want to get a job and somewhere else about most stats being made-up on the spot.

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I waiting for your links to the 90%.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: DBL
I was hoping you figure it out for yourself but I guess I'll have to do the work for you.

Basically, a small minority of homeless make a good living by panhandling just as a small minority of CEO?s commits fraud. Pointing to one example, which happened to make it on to TV BECAUSE IT WAS EXTREME does not prove ones point. Get it?
I don't give CEOs $ for being needy, nor do I see them pandhandling, so no I don't get it. It's not a valid comparison.

A: You assume it's a small minority.
B: You neglect the fact you CAN make a living off of it, a VERY nice one.
C: BMW, I don't drive one, and I work full time. Anyone driving those (like your CEOs) doesn't need any extra attention from me. CEOs don't get my pocket change, and neither do bums.

You're thinking way too hard. I was simply trying to explain that watching a program where a person, who happens to fit into a particular segment of society, is breaking the law does not enable one to make vague generalizations regarding that whole segment of society. Okay?

 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: DBL
I was hoping you figure it out for yourself but I guess I'll have to do the work for you.

Basically, a small minority of homeless make a good living by panhandling just as a small minority of CEO?s commits fraud. Pointing to one example, which happened to make it on to TV BECAUSE IT WAS EXTREME does not prove ones point. Get it?
I don't give CEOs $ for being needy, nor do I see them pandhandling, so no I don't get it. It's not a valid comparison.

A: You assume it's a small minority.
B: You neglect the fact you CAN make a living off of it, a VERY nice one.
C: BMW, I don't drive one, and I work full time. Anyone driving those (like your CEOs) doesn't need any extra attention from me. CEOs don't get my pocket change, and neither do bums.

You're thinking way too hard. I was simply trying to explain that watching a program where a person, who happens to fit into a particular segment of society, is breaking the law does not enable one to make vague generalizations regarding that whole segment of society. Okay?

You are going on and on about something that has nothing to do with the question. OK, assume a large percentage are mentally ill. Even if that's true, how in the fvck is it going to help them to give them money and enable them to continue begging instead of getting help?
 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: Bozono
Originally posted by: tweakmm
If someone will ask me for money and I have it I will give them some change or a buck. I don't care what they use it for, chances are if they are going to buy drugs I was too.


FTW.
Don't believe the people who say these folks make $200 a day. Not true. They may pull $30-40 on a good day IF the're out there all day, which they aren't. Most call it quits around $20 or so.

So you're basically agreeing with those of us who say they are there by choice.
And you have got to be kidding me on those numbers.
There's a stoplight I go through on a regular basis. It's right next to a freeway off ramp where there are almost always panhandlers. In the 1-2 minutes I'm waiting at that light, I almost always see at least 1 person give them a bill. That's $30-$60/hr. If they are only spending an hour there, than they are even lazy at panhandling and it's their own fault.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: DT4K
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: DBL
I was hoping you figure it out for yourself but I guess I'll have to do the work for you.

Basically, a small minority of homeless make a good living by panhandling just as a small minority of CEO?s commits fraud. Pointing to one example, which happened to make it on to TV BECAUSE IT WAS EXTREME does not prove ones point. Get it?
I don't give CEOs $ for being needy, nor do I see them pandhandling, so no I don't get it. It's not a valid comparison.

A: You assume it's a small minority.
B: You neglect the fact you CAN make a living off of it, a VERY nice one.
C: BMW, I don't drive one, and I work full time. Anyone driving those (like your CEOs) doesn't need any extra attention from me. CEOs don't get my pocket change, and neither do bums.

You're thinking way too hard. I was simply trying to explain that watching a program where a person, who happens to fit into a particular segment of society, is breaking the law does not enable one to make vague generalizations regarding that whole segment of society. Okay?

You are going on and on about something that has nothing to do with the question. OK, assume a large percentage are mentally ill. Even if that's true, how in the fvck is it going to help them to give them money and enable them to continue begging instead of getting help?

I was commenting on two very different things in different posts. You combining the two only makes things more confusing.

 
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