If you had a maximum of $30,000 to spend on car, what would you get?

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Ryan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Seems like a lot of people here are jealous that this kid is going to get a $30k car...

I'm not jealous, I'm disgusted.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Krk3561
Oh, and where did I say that I was getting $30,000 to spend on a car? I asked what people would get with $30,000.

Then why would you ask? Why start a debate? Your post implied it although you never explicitly stated it.
 

Mill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Seems like a lot of people here are jealous that this kid is going to get a $30k car...

I'm not jealous, I'm disgusted.

It is all for naught. Do you remember how stubborn and hardheaded you were when you were 16?
 

Ryan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Krk3561
Oh, and where did I say that I was getting $30,000 to spend on a car? I asked what people would get with $30,000.

Oh, stop with the technicalities. We're not stupid. Your first clearly implies that you are looking for cars around 30k, and because you said you parents won't let you drive a manual, it means that the car is coming on their dime.
 

Ryan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose Seems like a lot of people here are jealous that this kid is going to get a $30k car...
I'm not jealous, I'm disgusted.
It is all for naught. Do you remember how stubborn and hardheaded you were when you were 16?

Yea, but I wasn't this way with my first car. I knew I was going to wreck that biatch (or at least get in an accident)
 

DanFungus

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(I was in the same situation you were in, even with automatic, this car is SO much fun to drive )

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Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Krk3561
I've been taking driving lessons too, I have at least 20 hrs driving experience just from them
Not to nag or anything, but 20 hours isn't worth jack sh!t. How many hours at night? In the city? In rural areas? In snow? Rain? Fog? Rain/snow at night? Do you know to do if you have a blowout at 65 mph? Do you know what to do if you lose the rear end of the car? If you hit black ice in the middle of a corner?

20 hours isn't even out of the typical engine break-in period. And that's if the whole 20 hours were at 60 mph.

ZV

Good Gawd, black ice is awful. /shiver
 
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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Seems like a lot of people here are jealous that this kid is going to get a $30k car...

No, it sounds like a lot of us here KNOW better. Some of us are adults and have experiences that we could share about when we had a nice/fast car and were young.

Krk3561- My insurance on my Mustang is INSANE and I am 20 with a good many discounts and on my parents policy. That is why it is listed as an infrequently driven care right now.

While I wouldn't say 20 is much of an experienced adult (and I'm older than you), I agree with you that it would be stupid to blow that money on a $30k car. However, people saying that they're 'disgusted' with him, saying that he's leeching off of 'mommy and daddy', and how he'll have no respect are probably jealous.

Anyways, he's young...very young. The amount of fun he'll have in a nice car at 16 will probably outweigh any fun he'll have when he's older when spending the invested money.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Krk3561
I'm very respectful, and plus you dont know anything about me so how can you talk about me? My insurance will be lower too because I've taken the required hours of lessons for a discount and I have a 4.0 GPA (unweighted) which is another discount.
I have those same discounts. And I'm 21. With a clean record. Guess what insurance is. $1400/year for a car that's 16 years old and only has 147 horsepower. Discounts or no it's still damn expensive.

ZV
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Anyways, he's young...very young. The amount of fun he'll have in a nice car at 16 will probably outweigh any fun he'll have when he's older when spending the invested money.
$30,000 today will be a LOT of money in 50 years when he retires. Pretend for a minute that he earns about 6% (very conservative estimate) over that time - It will be over $500K. I don't know about you, but $500K can buy a fast car and a WHOLE lot of fast girls.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Anyways, he's young...very young. The amount of fun he'll have in a nice car at 16 will probably outweigh any fun he'll have when he's older when spending the invested money.
$30,000 today will be a LOT of money in 50 years when he retires. Pretend for a minute that he earns about 6% (very conservative estimate) over that time - It will be over $500K. I don't know about you, but $500K can buy a fast car and a WHOLE lot of fast girls.
$552,604.63 to be precise.

ZV
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Seems like a lot of people here are jealous that this kid is going to get a $30k car...

No, it sounds like a lot of us here KNOW better. Some of us are adults and have experiences that we could share about when we had a nice/fast car and were young.

Krk3561- My insurance on my Mustang is INSANE and I am 20 with a good many discounts and on my parents policy. That is why it is listed as an infrequently driven care right now.

While I wouldn't say 20 is much of an experienced adult (and I'm older than you), I agree with you that it would be stupid to blow that money on a $30k car. However, people saying that they're 'disgusted' with him, saying that he's leeching off of 'mommy and daddy', and how he'll have no respect are probably jealous.

Anyways, he's young...very young. The amount of fun he'll have in a nice car at 16 will probably outweigh any fun he'll have when he's older when spending the invested money.

And I am telling you and him from personal experience it is a waste of money when you are that young and inexperienced.

 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
WRX STi

For a person who just got his license?!? The insurance rates for that car would be insane, and he would probably end up wrapping it around a tree within a year.

He should get something sporty but SENSABLE, like a used Passat or a 2 door Accord.

 

Krk3561

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Krk3561
I've been taking driving lessons too, I have at least 20 hrs driving experience just from them
Not to nag or anything, but 20 hours isn't worth jack sh!t. How many hours at night? In the city? In rural areas? In snow? Rain? Fog? Rain/snow at night? Do you know to do if you have a blowout at 65 mph? Do you know what to do if you lose the rear end of the car? If you hit black ice in the middle of a corner?

20 hours isn't even out of the typical engine break-in period. And that's if the whole 20 hours were at 60 mph.

ZV

Good Gawd, black ice is awful. /shiver

I dont have to worry about ice, I live in South Florida . And can you still get blow outs with run-flats?
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Krk3561
I've been taking driving lessons too, I have at least 20 hrs driving experience just from them
Not to nag or anything, but 20 hours isn't worth jack sh!t. How many hours at night? In the city? In rural areas? In snow? Rain? Fog? Rain/snow at night? Do you know to do if you have a blowout at 65 mph? Do you know what to do if you lose the rear end of the car? If you hit black ice in the middle of a corner?

20 hours isn't even out of the typical engine break-in period. And that's if the whole 20 hours were at 60 mph.

ZV

Good Gawd, black ice is awful. /shiver

I dont have to worry about ice, I live in South Florida . And can you still get blow outs with run-flats?

Yes.
 

Imported

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If I had $30k to spend on a car.. I'd probably go with a 350Z.

For you, get yourself a mid 90s Accord, Altima, Civic, Sentra, Corolla, Camry.. whatever and learn to drive, and put the rest in the bank or some investment.

A friend of mine (17) got a brand new BMW 330Ci, in two weeks that car was totaled. There was this girl who went to my HS who wrecked 4 brand new cars in 4 months.. and her stupid parents kept buying her new cars..

Young drivers in new cars tend to act like they own the road.. :disgust:
 

weezergirl

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I don't really get why everyone is bashing him...his parents worked hard to make a lot of money...at least enough to afford their first kid's car to be so nice! maybe it's chump change to them...and in that case he doens't have to worry about insurance..and maybe he doesn't have to worry about his future either if they make enough. sure, he may be spoiled but he's living the american dream. who here doesn't want to make enough money so they never have to worry about it. or worry about investing it for the future.

just cuz u didn't get the easy life don't hate on the people who do
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Krk3561
I've been taking driving lessons too, I have at least 20 hrs driving experience just from them
Not to nag or anything, but 20 hours isn't worth jack sh!t. How many hours at night? In the city? In rural areas? In snow? Rain? Fog? Rain/snow at night? Do you know to do if you have a blowout at 65 mph? Do you know what to do if you lose the rear end of the car? If you hit black ice in the middle of a corner?

20 hours isn't even out of the typical engine break-in period. And that's if the whole 20 hours were at 60 mph.

ZV
Good Gawd, black ice is awful. /shiver
I dont have to worry about ice, I live in South Florida . And can you still get blow outs with run-flats?
Uh, yes. You're aware of the difference between a blowout and a tire losing pressure, right? A blowout is a catastrophic tire failure. Either the tire disintigrates, or you hit something and tear a huge gash in the sidewall resulting in a sudden and total loss of pressure. Run flat tires are ONLY effective is there is NO sidewall damage. Just keep thinking the way you are though. You'll get your arse handed to you by fate in good time.

ZV
 

Shockwave

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HAHA! What to do if you hit black ice in a corner.
Nothing. Your screwed. Unless of course you have bribed God himself.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: weezergirl
I don't really get why everyone is bashing him...his parents worked hard to make a lot of money...at least enough to afford their first kid's car to be so nice! maybe it's chump change to them...and in that case he doens't have to worry about insurance..and maybe he doesn't have to worry about his future either if they make enough. sure, he may be spoiled but he's living the american dream. who here doesn't want to make enough money so they never have to worry about it. or worry about investing it for the future.

just cuz u didn't get the easy life don't hate on the people who do
I've had an easy life too. My main issue is his conviction that he's "a good driver" despite the fact that he has practically zero experience and his inability to conceive of potential problems that will occur while he's driving. The kid thinks he's invincible.

ZV
 

Krk3561

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Krk3561
I've been taking driving lessons too, I have at least 20 hrs driving experience just from them
Not to nag or anything, but 20 hours isn't worth jack sh!t. How many hours at night? In the city? In rural areas? In snow? Rain? Fog? Rain/snow at night? Do you know to do if you have a blowout at 65 mph? Do you know what to do if you lose the rear end of the car? If you hit black ice in the middle of a corner?

20 hours isn't even out of the typical engine break-in period. And that's if the whole 20 hours were at 60 mph.

ZV
Good Gawd, black ice is awful. /shiver
I dont have to worry about ice, I live in South Florida . And can you still get blow outs with run-flats?
Uh, yes. You're aware of the difference between a blowout and a tire losing pressure, right? A blowout is a catastrophic tire failure. Either the tire disintigrates, or you hit something and tear a huge gash in the sidewall resulting in a sudden and total loss of pressure. Run flat tires are ONLY effective is there is NO sidewall damage. Just keep thinking the way you are though. You'll get your arse handed to you by fate in good time.

ZV

Wow, I never knew asking a simple question could result in so much agression.
 
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