If you had a son or daughter what would be the minimal age for them to start dating?

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Lifer
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I keep hoping my daughter will turn lesbian before dating age.

j/k... she's 12 now. 16 is minimum dating age for her and I will intentionally frighten any boyfried....
 

slycat

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Originally posted by: Eli
It would totally depend on them as a person.

I don't think I would ever restrict something like that though.. Unless they were like 12 and "dating" people that were 17. Other than that, who cares?

My girlfriend is 18, I'm 22. I met her when she was 16, I was 20. Whats the big deal?

u craddle snatcher!
 

guapo337

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some of you guys are neurotic. my first date (other than school dances) was like.. what.. 13 or so.. it was three of us. my friend, and my "gf" and myself. after that, i dunno.. i hang out with girls, etc. my parents never really put a limit on when i could date. i couldnt go to dances until i was in junior high though, and i think thats when i started "dating". i'm 16 now. i have yet to have sex, and my life is good. dating has not corrupted me, and i have not really corrupted anybody yet..

i would let my kids date when they wanted to, and i would trust that my judgement and their judgement would keep the environment safe. these restrictions you guys all want are total bullsh!t. it does nothing.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: slycat
Originally posted by: Eli
It would totally depend on them as a person.

I don't think I would ever restrict something like that though.. Unless they were like 12 and "dating" people that were 17. Other than that, who cares?

My girlfriend is 18, I'm 22. I met her when she was 16, I was 20. Whats the big deal?

u craddle snatcher!


She was less than a month from turning 17..

Honestly, her dad wasn't too thrilled with the whole idea until he got to know me a little. A few beers and a nice bowl broke the tension quite nicely.
 

DT4K

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Son - 18
Daughters - 25, but even then my wife and I have to meet the guy first and show him the overly possesive psycho killer side of our personalities.
 

TimidOCer

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Honestly I think that you should not limit them.. Now this is assuming at least that they are both the same age. If 11 year olds want to date they dont do much of anything and it will give them more confidence and IMHO make it easier to deal with the opposite sex. Now say your daugher is 13 or 14 and she wants to date like a 17 year old.. The mind state between a 13 year old and a 17 year old is very big. I wouldnt let that date happen because the 13 year old could be forced into some things that they dont want/they arent ready for.

Pretty much I think it should be their decision, but closely monitor it and everything will be ok. If you put some rediculous limit like 17 years old, first off the girl by the time she is 15 may resent it and start screwing every guy in sight.. Same with a guy. There should be no double standards for girls, guys. IMHO Its best to let nature take its own course , but monitored closely



Of course this may vary with every person but in general this is what I will plan on doing.
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: narzy
son 13
daughter 13

son w/ condom in pocket.
daugther w/ condom in pocket and on the pill.

they will both know about sex, and safe sex, and it will be reinforced every time they walk out the door on a date. The safest sex is no sex, the second safest is w/ a condom and the girl on BCP.

You would send your 13 year old daughter out with condoms & on the pill?



Give R Kelly a call, maybe he can make it worth your while.

Viper GTS
 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: TimidOCer
Honestly I think that you should not limit them.. Now this is assuming at least that they are both the same age. If 11 year olds want to date they dont do much of anything and it will give them more confidence and IMHO make it easier to deal with the opposite sex. Now say your daugher is 13 or 14 and she wants to date like a 17 year old.. The mind state between a 13 year old and a 17 year old is very big. I wouldnt let that date happen because the 13 year old could be forced into some things that they dont want/they arent ready for.

Pretty much I think it should be their decision, but closely monitor it and everything will be ok. If you put some rediculous limit like 17 years old, first off the girl by the time she is 15 may resent it and start screwing every guy in sight.. Same with a guy. There should be no double standards for girls, guys. IMHO Its best to let nature take its own course , but monitored closely

Of course this may vary with every person but in general this is what I will plan on doing.
That would be all well and good if they couldn't get pregnant or get deadly diseases.
And plenty of 11 year olds nowadays are doing things they wouldn't have even thought of when I was that age.
 

BD2003

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I'm not even going to bother giving any ages, because I know as well as anyone here that theyre going to date as soon as they want to, regardless of what parents have to say about it. Whats the point? You couldnt stop them from dating short of locking them in their room and throwing away the key. All that that will accomplish is having them date behind your back, resent you, and probably ending up worse than if you had just let them be.
 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: BD2003
You couldnt stop them from dating short of locking them in their room and throwing away the key.
Sounds good to me.

Out of curiosity, do you have daughters?

 

DT4K

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Originally posted by: nick1985
my gf is 15, im 18. kinda young, but hse turns 16 in like a month
And you are announcing your felony on a public forum?
Are you an idiot?

 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Shanti
Originally posted by: nick1985
my gf is 15, im 18. kinda young, but hse turns 16 in like a month
And you are announcing your felony on a public forum?
Are you an idiot?
It very well may not be illegal in his state.

As I said, my gal and I got together when she was 16 and I was 20, we were 3.8 years apart.. which is legal in Washington State, where she was living at the time. The cutoff was 4 years difference, or 14 or under.

When she moved to Oregon to be with me, we were illegal for about 6 months, cause here it's 18 and over, period.

 

TimidOCer

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Originally posted by: Shanti
Originally posted by: TimidOCer
Honestly I think that you should not limit them.. Now this is assuming at least that they are both the same age. If 11 year olds want to date they dont do much of anything and it will give them more confidence and IMHO make it easier to deal with the opposite sex. Now say your daugher is 13 or 14 and she wants to date like a 17 year old.. The mind state between a 13 year old and a 17 year old is very big. I wouldnt let that date happen because the 13 year old could be forced into some things that they dont want/they arent ready for.

Pretty much I think it should be their decision, but closely monitor it and everything will be ok. If you put some rediculous limit like 17 years old, first off the girl by the time she is 15 may resent it and start screwing every guy in sight.. Same with a guy. There should be no double standards for girls, guys. IMHO Its best to let nature take its own course , but monitored closely

Of course this may vary with every person but in general this is what I will plan on doing.
That would be all well and good if they couldn't get pregnant or get deadly diseases.
And plenty of 11 year olds nowadays are doing things they wouldn't have even thought of when I was that age.

I realize that but thats where the monitoring comes in.. Most dates when they are 11 happen with a parent or gaurdian of some sort.. Since they dont really have a ride it makes it kind of easy to monitor dates. This also falls into the category of it may vary for each person, while there are alot of 11 year olds doing that kind of thing the majority are NOT. Basically just keep a watchful eye on your kids... that would be the main thing I would say.

I was in no means saying that if your kid is 11 its no problem , but IMHO they shouldnt ever get that kind of chance to, where they will be alone really for long enough for that to even happen... Anyway its a very touchy subject and it should be dealt with common sense and good judgement.
 

DT4K

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lol,
I've lived in Oregon since I was 2. When I started dating my wife, she was 16 and I was almost 19. But I wouldn't announce it publicly.
 

ProviaFan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Shanti
lol,
I've lived in Oregon since I was 2. When I started dating my wife, she was 16 and I was almost 19. But I wouldn't announce it publicly.
Posting it on a public internet message board does not constitute "announcing it publicly"? That's news to me.

FWIW (from a 16 years old male POV), I think the whole double standard BS that so many are suggesting is not really going to help a whole lot. After all, about the only way to justify that is "just because," and that's not going to fly with your average teen (they'll just do it anyway, and to a greater and "worse" extent than what they'd do if you just set reasonable limits and monitored reasonably).

Edit: The only way that the idiotic double-standard strategy would work is if you turned your daughters into geeks, so they'd rather be interested in writing programs and tweaking computer hardware than be interested in having a boyfriend (or girlfriend in my case).
 

DT4K

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Do any of you who are criticizing the double-standard actually have daughters?
If not, just wait until you do. Boys and girls are not the same.
I was a teenage guy. I know how they think. And that scares me to death when I look at my 3 and 5 year old daughters.

Of course I don't want my son doing something stupid and getting some girl pregnant or getting some disease.

And I try to treat them equally and not be sexist. But every parent with both sons and daughters will tell you that they worry far more about their daughters dating. The bottom line is that there are more bad things that can happen to girls.
 

ProviaFan

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Shanti
Do any of you who are criticizing the double-standard actually have daughters?
Uh no, and I don't have any sons, either, so that pretty much makes my opinion about as useful as crap. But, from a purely logical point of view, the double standard makes no sense at all; look at it this way: if everyone didn't let their daughters date until 35 (as some have suggested in this thread, but that seems totally rediculous - I mean, how many of you ladies had to wait until that late to date?), then there would be no one for the 16 year old sons to date; ergo, the rule might as well be that the sons can't date until they're 35 also (at least then it won't be a double-standard). Unless, of course, you consider it ok for gay males to date earlier than straight couples.
 

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I agree.

It doesn't matter whether boy or girl. Boys will be no exception, and I do suspect that I'll likely have boys.

I'll also agree with the maturity statement made by FFMCobalt. However, maturity doesn't mean they'll get to start dating at an earlier age. What it does mean is if they'll have as much privileges at age 16 as I would ideally give to them.

And please, those of you screaming that's so strict, spare me. You can't conclude until the moment. The most important thing is their association. The kind of friends you keep will tell what direction you go or are going. It doesn't mean I'll be holding them back from making any steps at all on their own. It just means I won't act like a single mum at work to get bread for the children or with an ineffective father, unable to discipline them and never knowing where they are, what they do, their friends and associations, etc.
 

alkemyst

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well I think it's funny when people say 18 to be allowed to date, 1) you have no choice at that point 2) they are now an adult and are going to be throw into the lion pit just as if they were 13 being approached by a 17yo, only this time you probably won't have them in your house and that 17yo has his own place too....smart move, way to prepare 'baby' for the real world.

When you have 10-12yo girls wearing hoochy mamma clothes and talking about giving a bj to some cute guy in school and how on most high school dates the girl has been conditioned to think oral sex is expected of her....and in some cases STD free and not even sex.

As a peer counselor, and also someone who dated a few christian school girls, including one I married (and divorced), I can tell you everyone of the parents that bragged about having such a good little girl or boy was so in the dark, I'd alway hear the same stories of how they were pregnant, got someone pregnant, had an abortion, got a STD and it would kill their mother and father if they found out. I got my wife pregnant before we were married.

The days on summer break no one was allowed over and she was to stay inside I'd just come over (her two brothers and sister liked me and I kept them bribed enough to keep the secret) and leave early (sometimes her parents would try to surprise her by calling and then immediately coming home, but I'd always dart out the back and I never parked in front of the house...her brothers and sister would deny I was ever there). For our dates, she'd get details on the movie we were supposed to see (her parents always had to see it first so they could question her) and then we'd go to my house. Basically about every possible hour we were having sex...even after she got pregnant they thought it was the only time. They also thought her sister was innocent and even my ex wife was surprised when one day she called from the road saying she was on her own now with some biker guy she had been seeing. These were both girls that had tons of activities and crap that was thought to take up all their time, but any kid will find a way around it. A lot of these kids immediately moved out at 18 and did excess things just out of spite.

When in college, I remember all the guys going after the 'virgins' and totally screwing them over the first week they hit campus, one girl left school over it...totally unprepared for real life. I didn't agree with this crap at all, it was just a game to the guys...they'd pose as 'virgins' too and claim all sorts of Prince Charming junk.

Also it's not a double standard any more at all, guys are more accepting of the sexual girls and girls are just as aggressive as the guys.

Statutory rape is also really misunderstood. If the girl and guy are brought in to court not even close in age and the girl insists she nothing happened and there is no pregnancy and the judge believes she was not coerced into that statement usually it is thrown out of court...in florida the law is if you are 16-24 anything is fair game within the 'group', under 16 even by another under 16 it is a crime....but again this law is very hard to enforce unless the girl is proven pregnant or there is somehow video tape taken by the kids themselves (one mother here was arrested for making child pornography by hiding a video camera in her son's room in an attempt to ruin the older girl who was still underage). Also there are no laws against anyone dating/seeing anyone else...parents have a right over who can come onto their property though, but if the say 13yo girl sees the 40yo guy in a public place there is no crime, even kissing will pass probably if it's the non-make out style, however groping of any kind to INNER thigh, buttocks, breasts, or contact of any part of her body with a sexual organ is statutory rape, if it can be proven. Also if the girl has already married, or has been given nonage (sp?) or the ability to be independent from the parents statutory rape does not apply. You get into some real screwy areas like 16 and a 15 is illegal but 16 and a 24 year old is ok...I know this well as my ex and I were 4 years apart in age and I was 20 at the time I met her and was told she was 17 or almost 18 (it was easy for the lie as she started school a year early, her friends set me up with her and technically I never asked her her age directly, even so at 16 I was totally legal), her parents always played the rape angle and when she was pregnant attempted to have me arrested and we were all advised of the law and that although they could tell me what I was permitted to do on their property if we were to be in a hotel, another residence, or even public place they would not be able to arrest me for statutory rape or tresspassing (they claimed children were property), however, other laws would still apply as lewd behavior, indecent exposure, etc.

For the record, the christian school my ex came from was expensive and popular...out of the senior class there was 1 virgin (this was from 1990) and in the junior class 3 and almost all were on their second to third sexual relationship by graduation....none of the parents knew about any sex happening until one 'hussy would get herself pregnant'.

I recommend letting your kids explore themselves no matter how hard it is for you to do so. Advise them on STDS, pregnancy, etc...keep predators from them with the laws allowed, but know they like sex just as much as their parents do and really there is nothing wrong with that (only americans seem to think so, other nations actually have mothers/daughters talking about sex together and totally naturally) and it is actually a good sign of a healthy young adult. However, I will guarantee you try and clamp down and tell them they WILL NOT do some/anything no matter how trivial, they will do all of that and more out of spite...no one likes being told they cannot do something, they know they can especially kids who think with their feelings and not their heads. Also know sometimes things you think they will figure out later on in life that you were exaggerating/lying about now sometimes doesn't happen and gets them in a lot of trouble. In peer counseling, I heard tons of things that normally no one would even think were true, but here was some guy or girl crying about being pregnant, or having an STD when they were told something by their parents that made them believe it would not be possible. Santa Clause is a perfect example, if a kid is never told he is fake and the secret is kept good enough...why would they think otherwise? Sure after you hear from your friends/TV that Santa is fake or catch your parents leaving gifts from Santa under the tree you realize it was stupid, but it was very real until then. Same with the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, etc....kids and adults alike believe their parents.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Cyberian
I never potty trained my daughter. She is 32 now and really doesn't date.

LOL

I am curious why would you not let your kids date? I would think the earlier the better. This way they get to spend time with other people and learn important social and interpersonal skills.

 
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