Yeah a hundred K is a lot. I think his ideas in general are good, though. A person spending a good bunch of their free time working on apps, trying to get something in the apple store, or a browser extension or anything they can throw on a resume and say look this many people use this app I invented, it makes for an interesting story.
Don't have kids, problem solved.
Responsible parents?Disgusting.
We're too good to have kids now? We deserve to die out then.
My kids will get loans, like I did. All this "save for your kid's college" is laughable. What moron actually does this?
The roots of Idiocracy being planted...The lower class will continue to to breed like rabbits no matter what while more the responsible (and more than likely, more educated) ones will not....
this can definitely work, but the vast majority people who try it are going to fail at it. more power to them if they can do it.
as for 100$k per year, i know thats what everyone makes here on atot, but its very region dependent. there are relatively few jobs, software or otherwise, that make that much money in most of the regions of US. in my region software dev averages about 70$k-80$k. though you can keep your cost of living low (20$k-30$k is doable around here), so it makes for a very good amount of savable/disposable income.
Responsible parents?
So because you are a fuck-up, all other children must be?Nope.
Assisting children with college is one thing. Giving children a free ride through college is doing them a disservice.
I had a free ride via scholarships when I first went to college. I pissed it away by partying and not appreciating the incredible opportunity I had.
Years later when I had a child of my own on the way and went back to school on my own dime I had a much greater appreciation and understanding of the investment I was making in my future.
So because you are a fuck-up, all other children must be?
So you believe the ONLY way to teach the lesson I bolded above is to not pay for their college? I've asked this question already in this thread.Nope.
All human beings intrinsically value something less when given to them for free. It's in our nature. Because of the choices I made and the lessons I learned, the education I got and the success I enjoy today holds a greater value to me than if it were handed to me. I worked hard for it and I earned it.
I'm not saying once my children are out of high school it's "fuck you, kids! You're on your own!" I'll support them while they go to school, offer SOME financial assistance, and give them a place to live in my home so long as they're passing their classes. If I simply cut checks to pay 100% for their tuition and living expenses while going to school they wouldn't learn the value of sacrifice and working hard to earn something on your own. It's more likely they'd be self entitled jack asses who wouldn't be prepared for the stark reality that life doesn't owe you anything and no one is going to give you what you want just because you exist. You have to work for it.
lol @ me being a fuck up. That almost hurts. Given the hardships I endured yet still emerged a success makes me feel more proud of what I went through rather than my mommy and daddy serving success to me on a silver platter.
So you believe the ONLY way to teach the lesson I bolded above is to not pay for their college? I've asked this question already in this thread.
So you believe the ONLY way to teach the lesson I bolded above is to not pay for their college? I've asked this question already in this thread.
I love how you equate giving your child the best possible education you can with putting a silver spoon in their mouth.I'm not going to teach them to be self sufficient yet simultaneously pay their way through college 100%. That's like telling a child "don't you ever fucking swear."
Again, I'm going to offer reasonable assistance to my children so long as they take their education seriously and are passing their classes. I will not, however, as some parents do, send them off to college with a shiny new car, cut a check every semester to completely pay for their tuition and housing, and continually pump money into their checking account to do whatever they please with.
Putting a silver spoon in a child's mouth is NOT parenting.
You're missing his point, which is that just throwing a lot of money at your child is NOT necessarily giving her the best possible education, depending on the child of course.I love how you equate giving your child the best possible education you can with putting a silver spoon in their mouth.
LOLWhy put away $500k for your children's college fund? Just buy them a nice home outright for $300k and give them $200k in an investment portfolio. That will put them ahead of 95% of people with a college degree.
This is probably the dumbest thread I've ever read.
I love how you equate giving your child the best possible education you can with putting a silver spoon in their mouth.
I love how you equate giving your child the best possible education you can with putting a silver spoon in their mouth.
No, I'm not. The point, currently, is that paying for college is not paying for everything.You're completely missing the point.
No shit.Educating children is more than school or college.
I agree with the bolded but do not consider paying for my children's education to be "throwing money at them." There will be restrictions. They will need to study a field that they will be able to get a real job and they will need to get excellent grades. I will talk to them about their courses and show genuine interest in what they are learning in order to help reinforce that knowledge.Throwing money at your kids is not parenting and may actually be doing them a disservice by setting unreal expectations on how life will operate once they're out of the nest.
The only way you can justify your position is by equating "paying for college" with "paying for everything." There are plenty of ways to teach self-reliance long before they get to college.Even if I was a millionaire I still would not pay 100% of my kids' college expenses nor buy them new cars, etc. They need to learn to be self reliant and how can I expect them to do that if I'm paying for everything?
America really is doomed when enough people think about higher education this way.actually paying 100% of your kids higher education is the epitome of the silver spoon.
Good for you. I'd be happier with kids that went to an actual good school and concentrated on their studies rather than half paying attention to their community college courses because they need to work a double shift at Micky D's after class.my deal with my kids is this. Tuition and getting to your classes is on you. I will help by buying your books.
No, I'm not. The point, currently, is that paying for college is not paying for everything.
No shit.
I agree with the bolded but do not consider paying for my children's education to be "throwing money at them." There will be restrictions. They will need to study a field that they will be able to get a real job and they will need to get excellent grades. I will talk to them about their courses and show genuine interest in what they are learning in order to help reinforce that knowledge.
The only way you can justify your position is by equating "paying for college" with "paying for everything." There are plenty of ways to teach self-reliance long before they get to college.
Why put away $500k for your children's college fund? Just buy them a nice home outright for $300k and give them $200k in an investment portfolio. That will put them ahead of 95% of people with a college degree.
This is probably the dumbest thread I've ever read.
I don't know how many times I can say no. Are you going to make them reimburse you for property taxes that go to pay for their public school? Is sending your kid to private school to avoid a shitty public school also considered silver spoon treatment? Do you make your kids buy their own food and clothing? Why aren't these things contradictions if you think paying for college is?Wouldn't paying for college 100% be a direct contradiction to a lifetime of teaching children self-reliance?
I don't know how many times I can say no. Are you going to make them reimburse you for property taxes that go to pay for their public school? Is sending your kid to private school to avoid a shitty public school also considered silver spoon treatment? Do you make your kids buy their own food and clothing? Why aren't these things contradictions if you think paying for college is?
Probably a better course is just for parents to pay for results. If your child is making good grades in a sensible program in a good university, and you have the means, by all means pay. If your child is taking mindless drivel classes to just have a place to party, it's time they pulled their own weight. There's a huge difference in time required to degree in engineering or physics or mathematics at MIT compared to education or communications or liberal arts at a party school, and there's little point in demanding menial and ill-paid work if it damages the whole purpose of being in college.America really is doomed when enough people think about higher education this way.
Good for you. I'd be happier with kids that went to an actual good school and concentrated on their studies rather than half paying attention to their community college courses because they need to work a double shift at Micky D's after class.
Yea man i agree. I doubt the people who went to Yale, Harvard and the like paid their own way at Mcdonalds.America really is doomed when enough people think about higher education this way.
Good for you. I'd be happier with kids that went to an actual good school and concentrated on their studies rather than half paying attention to their community college courses because they need to work a double shift at Micky D's after class.