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VashHT

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Interesting list, can't say I agree with it very much (way too much U2), even out of the bands they put on there that I listen to I like other songs they did more. For example, American Idiot is not even my favorite song on that album, let alone being the best Green Day song.
 

BudAshes

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If you have free time but are brain-dead (i.e. after work), this is my go-to option:


Note: Holding down the mouse makes you go faster, but eats you length as fuel.

Oh boy, I used to be totally addicted to that game.
 

Iron Woode

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the most important song in rock and roll history is relegated to #158.

 
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nakedfrog

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the most important song in rock and roll history is relegated to #158.

Can you expound on why "Rock Around the Clock" is the most important song in rock and roll history?
 
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Iron Woode

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Can you expound on why "Rock Around the Clock" is the most important song in rock and roll history?
It was not the first rock and roll record, nor was it the first successful record of the genre (Bill Haley had American chart success with "Crazy Man, Crazy" in 1953, and in 1954, "Shake, Rattle and Roll" sung by Big Joe Turner reached No. 1 on the Billboard R&B chart). Haley's recording nevertheless became an anthem for rebellious 1950s youth[6] particularly after it was included in the 1955 film Blackboard Jungle. It was Number 1 on the pop charts for two months and went to Number 3 on the R&B chart.[7]

The recording is widely considered to be the song that, more than any other, brought rock and roll into mainstream culture around the world. The song is ranked No. 158 on the Rolling Stone magazine's list of The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time.

On July 9, 1955 "Rock Around the Clock" became the first rock and roll recording to hit the top of Billboard's Pop charts, a feat it repeated on charts around the world.

"Rock Around the Clock" is often cited as the biggest-selling vinyl rock and roll single of all time. The exact number of copies sold has never been audited; however, a figure of at least 25 million was cited by the Guinness Book of World Records in its category "Phonograph records: Biggest Sellers" from the early 1970s until the 1990s, when the advent of compact discs led to Guinness discontinuing the category. Guinness consistently listed "Rock Around the Clock" as having the highest claim of any pop music recording, coming second in sales only to Bing Crosby's 1942 recording of "White Christmas", which was also listed as having sold 25 million copies. Haley's version alone is estimated to have sold 15 million copies, with a total of 30 million copies counting all versions.[26][27] A frequently used piece of promotion regarding the song is that it is said to be playing somewhere in the world every minute of the day.
 

nakedfrog

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Yeah, I'm not going to agree with that making it the "most important", and it doesn't need to be any higher on the list than it is.
 

BudAshes

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i don't really listen to hippie music

My advice to you would be to take more recreational drugs.

Really though I don't even think Bob Dylan is a very good singer. I do like his style of telling a story through song though and think he is a talented song writer.
 

UsandThem

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I looked briefly through their top 150 song choices, and that was enough to satisfy my curiosity of what they picked.

All I can say Rolling Stone isn't what it used to be.
 

VashHT

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Yeah I don't know anyone who likes Dylan who thinks he's a good singer, just that he's an amazing songwriter. That's why a lot of people like the Jimi Hendrix version of All Along the Watchtower more (that was on the list too I think while the Dylan version isn't).
 

DigDog

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Subterranean Homesick Blues
good call, but just slightly off the mark. I (in my infinite wisdom) would have gone for Motorpsycho Nitemare, also off of Another Side Of Bob Dylan. Or maybe It Ain't Me. I don't know, my wisdom is not that infinite.

..anyway, Rolling Stone .. you know, the maganize named after the band, rolling stones? is always been about "the X most-well known commercial songs". The whole "best song" thing is too much based on what your idea of "best" is. Most influential ? Most well loved? Most known? Best today ? Best when it was released? Most complex? Best lyrics? Best solo ?
MADE THE MOST MONY ?
 
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DigDog

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answering my own question, i would say that

1. the song everyone loves and nobody hates: We Will Rock You.
i cannot think of any human being that can *not* like this song. Somebody To Love is a better song in the sense that it's more moving, but nobody, no-one does not like We Will Rock You.

2. the most influential: Drive My Car.
i know you're probably thinking "wut?" right now; but when Rubber Soul came out, the N.1 music act in america, The Beach Boys, were ready to release Pet Sounds, they listened to Rubber Soul and said "oh my god, we are shit" and proceeded to re-record the entire album.
Anyway, the Beatles were one of those bands that changed way things *other* bands did. But so did Elvis. You can argue that Elvis was just Blues music, but Rock is a product based on image as much as it is on music; nothing shocking here, films are the same, theater too, almost all art is multi-media. We're not gonna have Arnold Schoenberg here because, while his work may be highly advanced from a purely technical point of view, it fails miserably at being the type of consumable product that Rock is.
3. the most popular: White Christmas by Bing Cosby.
Not really a point of argument; 50 million copies sold.

i should probably point of that, while i have liked, briefly, Bob Dylan, i've since lost a lot of respect for the man (whom i also saw live in the worst concert performance i have ever attended). He gained notoriety mostly for being a turncoat, from folk artist to rock artist, when rock was looking for legitimacy (being branded "degenerate" otherwise) and folk represented the fight between crass commercialism and good, honest values. We all know who won that fight.
And he's also a piece of shit, but that's just him being who he is.
As for Dylan being a poet, so is Arlo Guthrie. Or Tom Petty. or any of the Travelling Wilburys.

4. the most musically important: Little Wing.
Or you could say Johnny B Goode. Or any other song that changed the way other musicians wrote their own songs. The difference with Little Wing is how much it raised the bar. If you look at all rock music of the 50s, 60s and 70, *including* Johnny B Goode, the level of technical skill is pretty darn low. Little Wing - which is today a standard of guitar technique - is unparalleled at the time of release with how much more complex it is compared to anything that preceded it. Two similar examples that will come along later on are Eruption and the guitar work on Master Of Puppets.

5. the guitar solo on Deep Purple's 1972 Machine Head song Highway Star.
I have never felt that Led Zeppelin were important. Ok ok calm your tits.
Sure they were famous. Zeppelin were well known as a great "live band", because they had a great crew and they lugged around a whole bunch of really big amplifiers and they sounded loud and clear.
Keep in mind that until 1968's Altamont's Rolling Stones concert, there were no barriers between the artists and the crowd. Some concerts did not even have proper podiums. Outdoors amplification was not great because a lot of the artists of the time were not cruel businessmen are didn't really think in such terms as image or profitability - they just, you know, did their thing, man, for freedom.
Deep Purple were a *much* better rock band than Zeppelin ever were. Ian Gillian's voice is waaaay better than Plant's (did robert plant get to sing Jesus Christ Superstar? i think not)
They just were shit at promoting themselves and keeping the band together. Also, Blackmore sucks balls live (that's a technical term, look it up).

So if you really want to look at where Rock stopped being Rock & Roll and perfected itself into "Rock", it's probably here.



i think, at some point in the future, when i am old, or dead, y'all finally come around and realize of how great, musically, The Pixies were. I can think of no "better band" than The Pixies. The songs written by Frank Black are those of a man who has learned all the rules of music, and is breaking them.
 

nakedfrog

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Yeah I don't know anyone who likes Dylan who thinks he's a good singer, just that he's an amazing songwriter. That's why a lot of people like the Jimi Hendrix version of All Along the Watchtower more (that was on the list too I think while the Dylan version isn't).
Hendrix did a pretty good Like A Rolling Stone too.
i think, at some point in the future, when i am old, or dead, y'all finally come around and realize of how great, musically, The Pixies were. I can think of no "better band" than The Pixies. The songs written by Frank Black are those of a man who has learned all the rules of music, and is breaking them.
I fucking love the Pixies, but the Beatles are still a better band.
 

lxskllr

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Dylan's voice is actually pretty expressive if you really listen. It isn't pretty, but it's expressive.
 
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