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urvile

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Rum. Try a single cask rum from an indie bottler. Guaranteed not to have any colouring or sugar added. Chances are it won't have been chill filtered either. If you want to try something interesting get a jamaican rum with a high ester count the rum that comes from the hampden estate is my favourite.

If you want something sweet (added sugar) and refined try diplomatico, ron zacapa etc. If not pusser's and goslings are also worth a look.

Oh and there is no mixing quality rum. You shouldn't even add ice to it.
 

gorcorps

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Oh and there is no mixing quality rum. You shouldn't even add ice to it.

It's my drink and I'll do what I want to it.

I wish I was rich so I could start a youtube channel of me making mixed drinks with incredibly expensive spirits just to make folks like you twitch. Maybe go to Japan, get some Kobe beef and whip out a bottle of A1 to see how many people stroke out. My god that'd be fun... how high is the powerball now?
 
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Scarpozzi

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I can drink liquor straight, but don't like to do it (unless it's whiskey, tequila shots (as a sidecar), or really good scotch).

Alcohol purchasing 101:
NEVER BUY BOTTOM SHELF LIQUOR. Bottom shelf stuff is usually flavored vodka and can be really nasty. It's like throwing money away...much better to go middle of the road at least. I tend to go middle of the road if I'm using it as a mixor. For tequila, I always look for 100% Agave, but often will buy mid-lower grade because the price of that stuff keeps rising. Look for liquor stores that offer 1.75 liter bottles for a discount in the middle of the week. Around here, I can save 10-20% buying on Wednesdays...it really adds up on $20-50 bottles. Go to stores that have staff you can ask questions. Look for shelves that may have only a few bottles left of a particular brand. That will help you figure out what's good...look for what sells.

Summer drinks, I tend to stick to Mai Tais and Margaritas. Margs are very particular, but it's tough to mix one using pre-made mixes that doesn't taste too sweet. Most mixed drinks are WAY too sweet to enjoy the alcohol. I'll share a few tricks and recipes with you:

If you're drinking rum, I'd make my 3 ingredient mai tais... Get a bottle of Cruzan Aged rum because it's cheap and has a nice subtle coconut essence that's not advertised on the bottle. Bacardi would work too... Buy some Dole Pinapple Orange Juice and a jar of maraschino cherries. You'll have about $15 in the rum, $3 in the juice, and another $2.50 in the cherries....so $20 for probably 15 drinks. CHEAP. I make this on vacation because it's beachy... How to mix: Take 2 pint glasses....fill one with ice cubes. Pour rum to about 1/4th of the glass over the ice....then fill up with the juice and leave a little room in the top. Take a teaspoon and get about a teaspon of the cherry juice and mix by pouring it into the other glass and back again. Done...drink. If it's too sweet or strong, just wait. The ice will melt and at some point, the drink will be more to your liking. If it's too weak, next time....fill it to the 1/3 mark. If it's been a rough day, go to 1/2....just be careful. Rum will sneak up on you in these drinks.

Margaritas are similar....I get 100% Agave Tequila, but never use topshelf because it's a waste. For margarita mix, I usually just grab Finest Call or Jose Cuervo brand margarita mix. If I had a choice, I'd be using Ocean Spray Sweet & Sour mix and lime juice. I typically fill a pint glass with ice, pour 1/3 of the glass with tequila....do another 1/3 with mixer, a splash of OJ (or mixed juice above), and a splash of water....maybe a lime slice if I happen to have them. I do the water because I don't like margaritas too sweet. I also don't like salt on my margaritas. Play around until you find a recipe you like and don't overthink it. Don't be afraid to water drinks down and just drink more of them. I sometimes even put a splash of miller light in margaritas....the carbonation makes them pretty good.

Whiskey:
To learn to drink whiskey, I recommend you start by paying a professional to mix them.
Canadian whiskeys tend to be lighter and smoother as a result of it. Crown Royal is marketed this way and Canadian Club is a similar balance, but not quite as expensive. When I first started drinking whiskey, I knew a lot of guys that were drinking Crown Royal and Ginger Ale because it was so smooth. These taste better in bars for some reason. Anyhow....drink those until you like them....then order a Maker's Mark and Coke on your 2nd or 3rd visit of drinking just the Crown and Ginger mix. Once you get to where you like Maker's and Coke, get brave one night and try drinking Makers on the rocks...maybe at home. =D It takes a while, but let the ice melt to water down the bite. Eventually, you may or may not get a taste for whiskey straight up. For me, it's a temperature thing. I only drink hot coffee....everything else over ice....but I like whiskey straight too. Heck...using the above strategy, I taught my wife to drink whiskey...in the winter, especially, she asks me to mix Maker's for her on occasion.
 

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Ginger beer + cheap bourbon
Ginger beer + cheap vodka

Trader Joe's branded ginger beer is one of the best. And their $15 bottle of bourbon ain't terrible for mixing either.
 

Sho'Nuff

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Ginger beer + cheap bourbon
Ginger beer + cheap vodka

Trader Joe's branded ginger beer is one of the best. And their $15 bottle of bourbon ain't terrible for mixing either.

I have become a ginger beer snob this year, as I have been drinking a ton of moscow mules. I can't speak to the quality of trader joe's ginger beer, but I can HIGHLY recommend the ginger beer sold under the Q drinks and Fever Tree brands. They are not cheap, but man are they worth it. Very few ginger beers capture the raw spiciness of ginger, and many ginger beers are loaded with an excessive amount of sugar. Q drinks and fever tree contain less sugar and so have more of that "ginger snap" taste. Q drinks is also quite hot (at least as far as soft drinks go).
 

Sho'Nuff

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Get some Dr. McGillicuddis, mentholmint.

Nein. The OP asked for hard liquor. Not a liqueur that ladies and hairless boys drink.


Edit - the irony of this post and my recommendation has occurred to me. Yet I stand by my words concerning Dr. M's.
 

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I have become a ginger beer snob this year, as I have been drinking a ton of moscow mules. I can't speak to the quality of trader joe's ginger beer, but I can HIGHLY recommend the ginger beer sold under the Q drinks and Fever Tree brands. They are not cheap, but man are they worth it. Very few ginger beers capture the raw spiciness of ginger, and many ginger beers are loaded with an excessive amount of sugar. Q drinks and fever tree contain less sugar and so have more of that "ginger snap" taste. Q drinks is also quite hot (at least as far as soft drinks go).

This stuff. It's 140 calories per 12oz. It's not that far off from what Fever Tree is per ml. They use cane sugar and it's also got a nice citrus zip to it that most others don't have. It works great for (Insert Nationality Here) Mules.

 
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urvile

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It's my drink and I'll do what I want to it.

I wish I was rich so I could start a youtube channel of me making mixed drinks with incredibly expensive spirits just to make folks like you twitch. Maybe go to Japan, get some Kobe beef and whip out a bottle of A1 to see how many people stroke out. My god that'd be fun... how high is the powerball now?

I would actually watch that. So I could swear at the screen and throw things.
 

Iron Woode

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It's my drink and I'll do what I want to it.

I wish I was rich so I could start a youtube channel of me making mixed drinks with incredibly expensive spirits just to make folks like you twitch. Maybe go to Japan, get some Kobe beef and whip out a bottle of A1 to see how many people stroke out. My god that'd be fun... how high is the powerball now?
substitute Ketchup for the A1 and then the shit will hit the fan.
 

Sho'Nuff

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have you had bundaberg? their ginger beer is top notch

i love how it gets more gingery the more i drink

I have! Actually bought a 4 pack the other day. Its better than most, but I still prefer Q drinks and Fever tree as Bundaberg is still a bit too sweet for my taste.
 

Sho'Nuff

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This stuff. It's 140 calories per 12oz. It's not that far off from what Fever Tree is per ml. They use cane sugar and it's also got a nice citrus zip to it that most others don't have. It works great for (Insert Nationality Here) Mules.



Will definitely try it sometime.

You should give Q drinks ginger beer a try. 120 cals per 12 oz and sweetened with agave nectar. Gingery and spicy. Yum.
 

lehtv

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Yeah... Probably too much peat in an islay for someone trying to develop a taste for the stuff.
Peat is not a problem for a newbie whisky drinker. The taste of ethanol is - which you'll find in many spirits (wines and beers too), and it can easily put you off from developing a taste for the finer products, so you have to be extra careful as a newbie.

Also the sharpness and rawness of less matured whiskies can be difficult to approach. The thing with Lagavulin 16yo is it masks the alcohol perfectly and the peaty, full flavor is like candy even for inexperienced drinkers. At least in my experience.
 

Scarpozzi

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Peat is not a problem for a newbie whisky drinker. The taste of ethanol is - which you'll find in many spirits (wines and beers too), and it can easily put you off from developing a taste for the finer products, so you have to be extra careful as a newbie.

Also the sharpness and rawness of less matured whiskies can be difficult to approach. The thing with Lagavulin 16yo is it masks the alcohol perfectly and the peaty, full flavor is like candy even for inexperienced drinkers. At least in my experience.
It's the peat that most people complain about when they drink it with me.

In any case, that's the kind of drink you should try with friends or in a bar (by the drink) until you decide if it's for you. To each his/her own... I want to say it goes for around $5/ounce when you buy it by the bottle here. There are far less expensive options to ease into scotch.
 

Smoblikat

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Nein. The OP asked for hard liquor. Not a liqueur that ladies and hairless boys drink.


Edit - the irony of this post and my recommendation has occurred to me. Yet I stand by my words concerning Dr. M's.

Your words are hurtful sir, you may now consider me hurt

Is it possible that some hairy men drink Dr. M?
 

Viper GTS

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Can confirm that Trader Joes ginger beer is pretty good. Also their tonic is the best readily available reasonably priced stuff around. It's cheap enough that I don't care about opening a can for the last oz I need to top off a gin & tonic and then dumping the rest, but quite a bit better than the grocery store stuff. Q and Fever Tree are both good but availability is spotty and they're far more expensive than the Trader Joe's stuff.

In my house summers are basically moscow mules and gin & tonic. Many limes to sacrifice.

Viper GTS
 

Sho'Nuff

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Ginger beer + cheap bourbon
Ginger beer + cheap vodka

Trader Joe's branded ginger beer is one of the best. And their $15 bottle of bourbon ain't terrible for mixing either.

Finally got around to trying trader joe's ginger beer. I know tastes vary but . . . gah man. I don't know how you can drink that stuff.
 

Thebobo

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Everclear or Bacardi 151 smooth as a cat's tongue. Chugging that will make a man out of you!
 
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