If you put in 8 hours/day every week, should you receive a wage you can live upon?

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schmuckley

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Liberals are just as bad as conservatives on wages.

They pander to a bunch of low-skill 3rd world immigrants(many illegally here) and pushed women into the workforce.

Do those seem like ways to boost wages?
No.We need to boot them back where they came from and put Americans to work.
As for Wal-Mart..they should be looked into for monopolizing practices.
Where's the "trust-busters" nowadays?
 
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Vic

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If there were no social programs such as medicaid, food stamps and public housing, would the working poor demand a higher wage?

No matter what happens, every working person will always demand a higher wage. From janitor to CEO.
 

spidey07

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You're so naive and entitled. It's amazing. Meanwhile, I'll be sleeping comfortably at my house while you're reenacting the Alamo at yours. Money well spent.

As you said, I'll cut off their aid, arm them and send them to your home. As I recall you're living in a major metropolitan area. And your state forbids you from being armed. What are your chances with all those poor savages surrounding you vs. mine?

You'll be dead and burned inside 300 seconds.

You are so totally dependent on others just to live you may as well be on welfare. Great fuck will be upon you.
 

Vic

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I'd be fine with that option as well

The police do not protect. They don't stop me from being robbed.

So the title to your property is not vested in your name and recorded at the county office? Along with the platting or a metes and bounds legal description?
 

feralkid

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As you said, I'll cut off their aid, arm them and send them to your home. As I recall you're living in a major metropolitan area. And your state forbids you from being armed. What are your chances with all those poor savages surrounding you vs. mine?

You'll be dead and burned inside 300 seconds.

You are so totally dependent on others just to live you may as well be on welfare. Great fuck will be upon you.


After you finally get to kill someone, are you going to post your rantings from prison?
 

Lithium381

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Only the one's that are not married to the baby daddy. Do you have problems with the English language?

married or not so long as he's in the child's life and supporting them i think that's fine. current law makes getting married hairy sometimes..
 

Vic

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As you said, I'll cut off their aid, arm them and send them to your home. As I recall you're living in a major metropolitan area. And your state forbids you from being armed. What are your chances with all those poor savages surrounding you vs. mine?

You'll be dead and burned inside 300 seconds.

You are so totally dependent on others just to live you may as well be on welfare. Great fuck will be upon you.

My state of Oregon forbids me from being armed? Seriously?

And unless you're growing all your own food and living entirely off the grid, you're totally dependent on others just to live as well. Wake up and get a clue. Freedom requires accountability. It's not infringement on your liberties to pay for services actually rendered.
And I know that there are countless government services that you like and are willing to pay for. Some of which I probably don't like and would prefer not to have to pay for (or at least not so much). Should I wish great fuck upon you for that as well?
 
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Texashiker

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Welfare and foodstamps aren't going anywhere. In fact, now that even working class relies on food stamps, welfare, and Medicaid, it's going to make social programs much more entrenched.

Welfare is not going anywhere, corporate nor for the public, but the working middle class can no longer afford to support the programs.

When facebook and a welfare family both get a big tax return, who is left to pay the bill?
 

Vic

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Only the one's that are not married to the baby daddy. Do you have problems with the English language?

The 47% are just as likely to be Republican as they are Democratic. It's a myth that they are all welfare moms. Far more are elderly and on Social Security and Medicare.
That's why that backfired on Romney.
 

sandorski

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If you are worried about being made a slave worry about all the communist drivel being bandied about lately. Once the state owns you and all you own or produce what are you then?

You seem to make the assumption that the Company owning you is any better.

Protip: Government and Business exist at the Will of the People.
 

Vic

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Yeah, but spidey, who will come 20 minutes after the break in/murder of your whole family and fill out all of that annoying paperwork?

Ok bad analogy. . How's this one? If he doesn't want to pay his taxes, and he gets in car accident, then the medics can just leave him lying in the road.
 

spidey07

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After you finally get to kill someone, are you going to post your rantings from prison?

Look. I have no desire other than providing for my family and what is mine. Once you have something to protect you'll understand.
 

spidey07

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Ok bad analogy. . How's this one? If he doesn't want to pay his taxes, and he gets in car accident, then the medics can just leave him lying in the road.

I'm fine with that as well as I have other insurance means. Self insurance and cash.

You think I need some one to save me? I just drove from Indy to ky through this shit. I need saving?

If I go then I go. But it will be by my hand

If you rely on something so simple. Boy, you don't know man.
 
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nehalem256

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The 47% are just as likely to be Republican as they are Democratic. It's a myth that they are all welfare moms. Far more are elderly and on Social Security and Medicare.
That's why that backfired on Romney.

myth?



married or not so long as he's in the child's life and supporting them i think that's fine. current law makes getting married hairy sometimes..

Technically you are correct. However, society has found it useful, if not necessary, to formalize reproductive pairings since the dawn of civilization. I don't think this is accidental.

The fact that current laws may make such formal pairings "hairy sometimes" is just proof of how destructive liberalism is.
 
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Vic

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I'm fine with that as well as I have other insurance means. Self insurance and cash.

You think I need some one to save me? I just drove from Indy to ky through this shit. I need saving?

If I go then I go. But it will be by my hand

If you rely on something so simple. Boy, you don't know man.

And did you make sure to drive on privately owned toll roads the whole way?
 
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Average wage is for the whole US. So lets find out how the cost of living in Minneapolis compares to the average in the US.

http://www.infoplease.com/business/economy/cost-living-index-us-cities.html

Gives Minneapolis as having a cost of living of 111.0.

So up the average Walmart wage by 11% = $9.78/hr or above the living wage for a single person :thumbsup:

Also, remember the Walmart skews rural which will tend to have a lower cost of living than say New York City.


Ok, you made the claim that Walmart provides a living wage. I showed you from your own charts that in at least a few areas of the US this is not the case. Add in the fact that Walmart is moving more and more to part time 'associates' and the above is just blah, blah, blah.
 
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yeah, that's for a bottom of the barrel job. walmart does have FTE positions available that pay better than your $12/hr mark. . . assistant store managers, managers, corporate positions etc...

No, the wage ($8.81/hour) quoted is what the average 'associate' is paid per hour. We're not talking about managers or corporate positions who obviously are paid more. Not to mention that Walmart is increasingly moving to part time 'associates' as opposed to offering full time positions.
 
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Technically you are correct. However, society has found it useful, if not necessary, to formalize reproductive pairings since the dawn of civilization. I don't think this is accidental.

The fact that current laws may make such formal pairings "hairy sometimes" is just proof of how destructive liberalism is.

That reminds me, do you believe that heterosexual couples who cannot have or do not want children should be allowed to legally marry?
 
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