Business doesnt exist for the sake of citizens, are you insane? Is it really your opinion businesses are created for no other reason than to give some poor schmuck a job??
You get what you pay for. I wonder when (and if) he'll finally recognize that, or whether he will continue to repeat the same thing over and over while expecting different results.Moonbeam, as usual, thinks "job" means something high paying, easy and with little responsibility or hard work. So of course there isnt enough jobs for everyone.
Now if we use the a more practical definition of "job", where you might have to stand, you might have long hours, you might have to work in the sun or the rain or get a little dirty, theres jobs galore. Hell my buddy owns a general contractor business and he cant keep people on board because everyone he hires in the $10-$12 range is a worthless drug using slack ass.
You get what you pay for. I wonder when (and if) he'll finally recognize that, or whether he will continue to repeat the same thing over and over while expecting different results.
Respecting a good job that provides for the family is far better than being a miserable sack who has to continually repeat on internet forums that others are defective in order to validate himself.<snip>
What a treat it is to listen to the disgusting fucks that make up the conservative brain dead who feel so worthless themselves that all they have as a claim to fame is that they have been lucky enough to be employed and out of their small minded empty souls because of that inner emptiness proclaim themselves to be somebodies because they have jobs. These little swine who have nothing as a claim to fame but chance fortune thump their puny chests and pretend bathe themselves in the notion that wealth is the symbol of their own personal virtue. So small and sick they are that they raise a mountain of pride from which to look down on the unfortunate unemployed. Work hard and you can be like me. I am here because God rewarded me, because I'm a self made arrogant fucking mad man whose thinking is like a plague on the planet.
Pity these poor assholes because their souls are empty and their reward is an inner hell of life as small minded scum.
The sword of God is the empty bellies of the poor. A saying
The angel of death came for a wealthy miser. The miser begged for his life, for a day and then for an hour in return for his vast fortune, but the answer was always no. He asked then to leave just one note which was granted. On it was written the words, Know Oh Man, that for a huge sum of money I could not buy a single minute. Know the value of your time.
What kind of roof what kind of food?
I believe that an employee should be paid whatever wages they negotiate with their employer. Don't take a job that doesn't pay what you feel is a fair wage. Simple really.
I believe a business should be open to negative comments/review about it's product and service- not use slander law to protects its reputation.
Business doesnt exist for the sake of citizens, are you insane? Is it really your opinion businesses are created for no other reason than to give some poor schmuck a job??
We allow Business to exist. What I'm saying is not insane at all, it's why Businesses exists.
you'll never get spidey to admit that high paying unskilled labor jobs are important to the economy.
We allow Business to exist. What I'm saying is not insane at all, it's why Businesses exists.
If you want to take that view, then you must also accept that we consumers are the ones who have declared we want the cheap products versus the expensive "middle-class creating" products.
Chinese people willing to work for low pay allows businesses to create products in China. And American consumers of all types want the cheap products and forced businesses to offshore manufacturing.
Your views put the blame for low paying jobs squarely on the general public.
If you don't have cheap labor from Asia then Americans would not have an abundance of clothing to keep warm in as temps plunge far below zero, Americans would not have an abundance of technology gadgets to entertain us with.
Go tell the poor people they cannot own a tv or a second wool sweater, because you want your high paying job back. Tell them they can no longer keep their Obamaphones for the advancement of the middle class here in the U.S.
That's a big political problem for conservatives going forward. Their core view of the economy is that if someone is not benefiting from it, that person is solely to blame. That was politically palatable when it was directed at welfare recipients, but as the number of people not benefiting from trickle down economics grew, it started to include minimum wage workers, then it was unskilled labor as a whole, and before you know it, we are at 47%, and it's starting to backfire politically big time. And 47% is just getting started, soon it's going to be pretty much every worker who doesn't want to work for peanuts like their third world competition.
Ah, the problem is that we are not hoping and believing hard enough! That's what solves all the world's problems! Thanks for your helpful insight!
Believing in supply-side trickle down fairy is going to solve them. Fo sho!
Please point me to the post where I said I believed trickle-down theory was the answer to better paying jobs for Americans.
I live in the Democratic stronghold of Illinois where the Dems in Springfield control a super-majority and continually provide special tax breaks to big corporations. If you are so fucking stupid enough to believe this is a mere "conservative" versus "liberal" fight, you are a fool.
So trickle down is not the answer to better paying jobs for Americans?
No.
But it is a good example of how little control external influences have on the workings of a business.
That's the bottom line.
You and the other fucking liberals in this thread act as if you hope and believe hard enough, these corporations will bless you with better paying jobs just because they love you so much.
Ain't gonna happen. So, conversely, we tend to focus on what can be controlled, one such example is as a worker, learning a new skill to make yourself more valuable and less replaceable to employers. That is something everyone has the ability to do.
If you want to have a conversation of potential future job growth, especially concerning the U.S. versus Asia, we can do that. But as far as I can tell, you're not interested, you're stuck in the political world.
Raising the minimum wage has zero to do with this scenario. There are people perfectly capable of doing those jobs. They simply aren't willing to do them for such low wages. The people who are willing to accept those wages are not qualified for such work, but it pays better than the Wal-Mart and burger-flipper jobs they are qualified for.So if a person is incapable of doing a job that pays $10-$12/hr what do you think happens if you raise minimum wage above this?
OK, so let's undo all of Reagan-Bush trickle down policies.
There are people perfectly capable of doing those jobs. They simply aren't willing to do them for such low wages.
That's a big political problem for conservatives going forward. Their core view of the economy is that if someone is not benefiting from it, that person is solely to blame. That was politically palatable when it was directed at welfare recipients, but as the number of people not benefiting from trickle down economics grew, it started to include minimum wage workers, then it was unskilled labor as a whole, and before you know it, we are at 47%, and it's starting to backfire politically big time. And 47% is just getting started, soon it's going to be pretty much every worker who doesn't want to work for peanuts like their third world competition.
OK, so let's undo all of Reagan-Bush trickle down policies.