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Ultima200

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You are just fooling yourself if you think Snus is less dangerous than smoking or dipping. It is all the same. Smoking kills more because it becomes a habit that involves inhaling smoke. Simple as that. Snus while smokeless, still has tons of nicotine. Do a bit of research on the effect that nicotine has on the blood vessels, heart, etc. I find it laughable that the OP is actually recommending the stuff. lol
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ultima200
You are just fooling yourself if you think Snus is less dangerous than smoking or dipping. It is all the same. Smoking kills more because it becomes a habit that involves inhaling smoke. Simple as that. Snus while smokeless, still has tons of nicotine. Do a bit of research on the effect that nicotine has on the blood vessels, heart, etc. I find it laughable that the OP is actually recommending the stuff. lol

Pure nicotine is a hell of a lot safer. What kills are all the other chemicals in tobacco. For a smoker/dipper, the effects of nicotine are the least of his worries.

Next time try looking into a subject before spewing alarmist bullsit?

http://www.medicinenet.com/scr...t.asp?articlekey=51098

Nevertheless, if there are serious health risks from this kind of chronic gum chomping, they haven't been identified yet. "I've encountered people using the gum for 15 years," says John Hughes, MD, professor of psychiatry at the University of Vermont in Burlington, and spokesperson for the Society for Research on Nicotine and Tobacco. "And their main complaint is the cost of the gum." The price tag for using Nicorette gum is about the same as a pack-and-a-half-a-day smoking habit.

In some published studies, people have used nicotine gum up to five years, according to Richard Hurt, MD, professor of medicine and director of the Nicotine Dependence Center at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn. "As far as we now know," he says, "there are no heart or vascular problems associated with long-term use."

Cigarette smoking itself, of course, can cause serious, life-threatening health problems. But the nicotine in the gum is delivered slowly through the mucous membranes in the mouth, and at much lower levels than the quick-hit surge of nicotine that occurs when puffing on cigarettes. At the same time, the gum does not contain any of the cancer-causing substances present in cigarettes.

"The major harm from smoking is not caused by the nicotine," says Hughes. "The cancer and heart disease associated with smoking come from the carcinogens and the carbon monoxide in cigarettes."

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"If the gum were something we knew to be harmful, I'd get upset about its chronic use, and insist that they get off it," adds Hughes. "But it doesn't seem to be harmful."

If the choice were between smoking and using a pure nicotine product like the gum, "it's really a no-brainer," says Hurt. "We still want to get people off the gum. But it may take some of them a lot longer than others."
 

kalrith

Diamond Member
Aug 22, 2005
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: meltdown75
smokers enjoy inhaling that delicious smoke though.

I'm fine with people inhaling whatever they want. It's the exhaling that bothers me.
don't stand near smokers when they're smoking? FWIW i'm only a drinker-smoker. but i loves me some mary jane.

That can be difficult at times: walking down the sidewalk behind someone smoking, eating at a park, waiting outside a restaurant for a table because there's no room to wait inside, in a restaurant with a poor ventilation system and/or poor separation between smoking and non-smoking sections. There are few things I hate more than smelling cigarette smoke instead of the $20 steak in front of me.
cry more.

fuck off
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: meltdown75
smokers enjoy inhaling that delicious smoke though.

I'm fine with people inhaling whatever they want. It's the exhaling that bothers me.
don't stand near smokers when they're smoking? FWIW i'm only a drinker-smoker. but i loves me some mary jane.

That can be difficult at times: walking down the sidewalk behind someone smoking, eating at a park, waiting outside a restaurant for a table because there's no room to wait inside, in a restaurant with a poor ventilation system and/or poor separation between smoking and non-smoking sections. There are few things I hate more than smelling cigarette smoke instead of the $20 steak in front of me.
cry more.

fuck off

I see you took his advice.
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: meltdown75
smokers enjoy inhaling that delicious smoke though.

I'm fine with people inhaling whatever they want. It's the exhaling that bothers me.
don't stand near smokers when they're smoking? FWIW i'm only a drinker-smoker. but i loves me some mary jane.

That can be difficult at times: walking down the sidewalk behind someone smoking, eating at a park, waiting outside a restaurant for a table because there's no room to wait inside, in a restaurant with a poor ventilation system and/or poor separation between smoking and non-smoking sections. There are few things I hate more than smelling cigarette smoke instead of the $20 steak in front of me.
cry more.

fuck off
and die?
 
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