If you stated here that you never get the flu vaccine, would you do the same for the COVID19 vaccine?

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Lifer
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Never had a flu shot in my life.
If it become necessary to get a shot I will Corona or otherwise.
 

BoomerD

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Not an anti-vaxxer, but I don't get the flu shot either. Would I get a vaccination for the current "End of the world" virus? Maybe. I'm probably not too likely to catch it...but you just never know about the people you come into contact with in stores or restaurants...so...maybe.
 

Kaido

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Feb 14, 2004
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Last two years - got the flu shot, got the flu both years.

I still remember my eyebrows hurting last year. That was horrible.
 

Red Squirrel

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I usually don't bother with flu shot mostly out of laziness and low risk, but I would definitely get the covid-19 one. Really I should probably start getting the flu one too. I wonder if the virus we all got at work recently was actually the flu and if we would have not gotten it had we got the shot.
 
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Annisman*

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Got the flu in 2018.... So this year I got the flu shot for first time ever. No flu for me. Take from that what you will.
 

EliteRetard

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Already been exposed to COVID19, it had no effect on me.
Two of my house mates did get symptoms, mostly dry cough for a few weeks.

I'm one of those people that doesn't get vaccines for petty common diseases.
I'm also the only person I know that doesn't get sick, not even a runny nose or cough.

I still think it's hilarious how apocalyptic this bullshit has gotten...and it's barely just influenza+.
Even SARS had 2-3x the mortality rate. Wait until another real threat occurs, 25-75% mortality.
I'd take a vaccine for something like Ebola if it were spreading like COVID19.
 
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What many can't seem to grasp is that many illnesses may be communicable before symptoms appear. I would get one when it becomes available because I'm not an idiot; it appears that coronavirus has a mortality rate at least 10x higher than the annual flu - I'm not taking going to take that risk if there is a vaccine. Plus, there is the issue of sickness spreading, especially to vulnerable populations, when people don't vaccinate and then subsequently get sick.

As for the flu shot, on top of some of the same issues noted above, it's been shown year after year, the flu vaccine significantly reduces the risk of serious illness or death compared with being unvaccinated, even when the vaccine isn't a great match for the year.

Vaccines are some of the safest and most efficacious medicines that have ever been invented in all of human history. The only reason to not get one is if you have a contraindication, otherwise, get you're fucking vaccines.
 
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Imdmn04

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Already been exposed to COVID19, it had no effect on me.
Two of my house mates did get symptoms, mostly dry cough for a few weeks.

I'm one of those people that doesn't get vaccines for petty common diseases.
I'm also the only person I know that doesn't get sick, not even a runny nose or cough.

I still think it's hilarious how apocalyptic this bullshit has gotten...and it's barely just influenza+.
Even SARS had 2-3x the mortality rate. Wait until another real threat occurs, 25-75% mortality.
I'd take a vaccine for something like Ebola if it were spreading like COVID19.

It's not about the deadliness of the virus, in fact, transmissibility has an inverse relationship with deadliness. (i.e. virus that are super deadly kills their host before the host has a chance to spread much).

The eventual outcome with this particular virus, when given enough time horizon, is that most of the population will get it. The key is, even at just 1% death rate (that is 3.5 million people just for America), the hospital systems are simply not designed to handle this volume of patients in a short-period of time. This is why "flattening the curve" is super important by slowing down the rate of the spread so that the hospitals don't get overwhelmed, which will significantly increase the death rate.

Hopefully, by slowing down the rate of spread, we give the healthcare systems a chance provide proper care without having to buckle under pressure (i.e. Italy). It also provides more time for vaccine and drug development.

If you are healthy young person without underlying condition, it is not about you dying from it, but it is absolutely about how you help society by not being a super-spreader.
 

ondma

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I usually dont get a flu shot, although I am older and probably should. The problem with the flu shot is that there are so many strains of flu that the shot may not be very effective.
Covid-19 is different though. If there were an effective vaccine, I would get it, both to protect myself and to make it less likely to give it to my wife, who has several health problems that put her in a high risk category.
 
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pmv

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Never had a flu shot because nobody (in authority) ever offered me one or suggested I should get one. I know more elderly people get offered it and take it up. I believe the NHS at some point decided it wasn't cost-effective to give it to everyone, compared to the cost of treating those who get flu, due to the difficulty in predicting what form of flu would be doing the rounds. So they offer it to the high-risk cases. If the doctor asked me to come have one, I would.

Very early days to speculate about a covid19 vaccine - am I right in thinking there may be multiple different vaccines developed? And then they have to go through loads of trials to see if they work and/or are effective and/or safe? And then who would 'own' the rights to them, and would they all be made available to everyone?

I'd very likely get vaccinated if it comes to that point - all kind of depends on the wider context though, it's not even 100% clear that a vaccine will even be possible.
 

ponyo

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No, I will not get the vaccine in the beginning. I will wait until you guys test it out and wait for more results before I consider it.
 

pmv

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No, I will not get the vaccine in the beginning. I will wait until you guys test it out and wait for more results before I consider it.


Ha, when it turns out to unexpectedly give you superpowers you'll be sorry.
 

EliteRetard

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What many can't seem to grasp is that many illnesses may be communicable before symptoms appear. I would get one when it becomes available because I'm not an idiot; it appears that coronavirus has a mortality rate at least 10x higher than the annual flu - I'm not taking going to take that risk if there is a vaccine. Plus, there is the issue of sickness spreading, especially to vulnerable populations, when people don't vaccinate and then subsequently get sick.

As for the flu shot, on top of some of the same issues noted above, it's been shown year after year, the flu vaccine significantly reduces the risk of serious illness or death compared with being unvaccinated, even when the vaccine isn't a great match for the year.

Vaccines are some of the safest and most efficacious medicines that have ever been invented in all of human history. The only reason to not get one is if you have a contraindication, otherwise, get you're fucking vaccines.

Vaccines for petty common diseases is what spreads them and makes them far worse.
Edit: I clearly had a lapse in judgement for the statement above (I do think I meant something else).

Just like all the paranoid types who take meds for everything and use antibacterial everything.
All you're doing is breeding far deadlier and far stronger diseases that can't be treated.

Every year I see the same thing, everybody who gets the flu vaccine gets seriously ill.
Meanwhile my properly and naturally adjusted immune system takes care of the flu for me.
The only people who should take vaccines for petty diseases are the immunocompromised.

People should also learn basic manners and common sense and stop spreading their filth.
Also, learn how to deal with people who insist on spreading their filth.
 
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EliteRetard

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It's not about the deadliness of the virus, in fact, transmissibility has an inverse relationship with deadliness. (i.e. virus that are super deadly kills their host before the host has a chance to spread much).

The eventual outcome with this particular virus, when given enough time horizon, is that most of the population will get it. The key is, even at just 1% death rate (that is 3.5 million people just for America), the hospital systems are simply not designed to handle this volume of patients in a short-period of time. This is why "flattening the curve" is super important by slowing down the rate of the spread so that the hospitals don't get overwhelmed, which will significantly increase the death rate.

Hopefully, by slowing down the rate of spread, we give the healthcare systems a chance provide proper care without having to buckle under pressure (i.e. Italy). It also provides more time for vaccine and drug development.

If you are healthy young person without underlying condition, it is not about you dying from it, but it is absolutely about how you help society by not being a super-spreader.

Vaccines have nothing to do with transmission of a disease.
In fact it's all the people who take drugs and then think it's OK to spread their filth that cause issues.

See my post above.
 
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The problem with the flu shot is that there are so many strains of flu that the shot may not be very effective.
That "problem" is still not a good excuse to avoid the shot. It still provides some protection; obviously less in severely mismatched years.

Vaccines for petty common diseases is what spreads them and makes them far worse.
Just like all the paranoid types who take meds for everything and use antibacterial everything.
All you're doing is breeding far deadlier and far stronger diseases that can't be treated.

Every year I see the same thing, everybody who gets the flu vaccine gets seriously ill.
Meanwhile my properly and naturally adjusted immune system takes care of the flu for me.
The only people who should take vaccines for petty diseases are the immunocompromised.

People should also learn basic manners and common sense and stop spreading their filth.
Also, learn how to deal with people who insist on spreading their filth.
sorry, but most of what you posted is utter nonsense and not supported by the weight of scientific evidence.
 
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Already been exposed to COVID19, it had no effect on me.
Two of my house mates did get symptoms, mostly dry cough for a few weeks.

I'm one of those people that doesn't get vaccines for petty common diseases.
I'm also the only person I know that doesn't get sick, not even a runny nose or cough.

I still think it's hilarious how apocalyptic this bullshit has gotten...and it's barely just influenza+.
Even SARS had 2-3x the mortality rate. Wait until another real threat occurs, 25-75% mortality.
I'd take a vaccine for something like Ebola if it were spreading like COVID19.

Your username is fitting. I don't give a shit if you get sick or not. Its not about you, mother fucker. Its about people that have compromised immune systems. I've had multiple family members that had that in the past decade. One was because of a heart transplant, one was due to cancer treatment. You endanger them by being such a selfish sack of fucking shit.

Vaccines have nothing to do with transmission of a disease.
In fact it's all the people who take drugs and then think it's OK to spread their filth that cause issues.

See my post above.

Yes it does. Holy shit, you're really fucking stupid on this issue.
 
Mar 11, 2004
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Vaccines for petty common diseases is what spreads them and makes them far worse.
Just like all the paranoid types who take meds for everything and use antibacterial everything.
All you're doing is breeding far deadlier and far stronger diseases that can't be treated.

Every year I see the same thing, everybody who gets the flu vaccine gets seriously ill.
Meanwhile my properly and naturally adjusted immune system takes care of the flu for me.
The only people who should take vaccines for petty diseases are the immunocompromised.

People should also learn basic manners and common sense and stop spreading their filth.
Also, learn how to deal with people who insist on spreading their filth.

People with compromised immune systems can't get vaccines, because of their compromised immune systems, dumbass. Holy shit you are ridiculously stupid about this stuff.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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Already been exposed to COVID19, it had no effect on me.
Two of my house mates did get symptoms, mostly dry cough for a few weeks.

I'm one of those people that doesn't get vaccines for petty common diseases.
I'm also the only person I know that doesn't get sick, not even a runny nose or cough.

I still think it's hilarious how apocalyptic this bullshit has gotten...and it's barely just influenza+.
Even SARS had 2-3x the mortality rate. Wait until another real threat occurs, 25-75% mortality.
I'd take a vaccine for something like Ebola if it were spreading like COVID19.


Your housemates were among the tiny number who have actually been tested for COVID19? Really? Seems unlikely.

I suggest you volunteer to work in a hospital in Lombardy, seeing as you have such a tough-guy immune system.

(You're a deliberately created parody account, aren't you? The content, though not the presentation, of your posts is very reminiscent of a certain national leader)
 

MtnMan

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Last two years - got the flu shot, got the flu both years.

I still remember my eyebrows hurting last year. That was horrible.
Well ain't you special! But because you did get the flu shot your case was probably less severe and it didn't kill you...
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Not an anti-vaxxer, but I don't get the flu shot either. Would I get a vaccination for the current "End of the world" virus? Maybe. I'm probably not too likely to catch it...but you just never know about the people you come into contact with in stores or restaurants...so...maybe.

Well you are old and the circle of life and all that.
 
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