If you were drafted tomorrow..

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: lowtech

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

its his choice, sobeit.

you're not one to judge.

He's free to the judge if he wishes.

And regardless, society/law has made judgement (as it should) and AFAIK it is illegal to be a draft dodger.

It is also illigal to kill/murder.

No sh1t sherlock. It was in reference to SherEPUnjab's "it's relative" statement.

Furthermore, I wouldn't condone either action naturally (dodging a draft or murder). But hey, "[I'm] not one to judge."

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

Originally posted by: lowtech

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

its his choice, sobeit.

you're not one to judge.

He's free to the judge if he wishes.

And regardless, society/law has made judgement (as it should) and AFAIK it is illegal to be a draft dodger.

It is also illigal to kill/murder.

No sh1t sherlock. It was in reference to SherEPUnjab's "it's relative" statement.

Furthermore, I wouldn't condone either action naturally (dodging a draft or murder). But hey, I don't know how others think, "it's all relative" to them so they can do as they wish right.

i said within reason, refer to my above posts. don't leap everything in one category.

 

[Dragnov]

i said within reason, refer to my above posts. don't leap everything in one category.

Again, who defines "reason"? Isn't reason all relative to the individual?

I have read every single one of your posts and I am understanding what you are saying. But again, who is to define "reason" as that is all entirely up to the individual. Violence may be within reason to a specific individual. Murder may be within reason to a specific individual. That is the problem with the "relativism" argument.

This is what law is/does. It creates this level of "reason" that we all agree to abide by as we all have put in our vote. If you don't agree, you have the option of leaving, or doing something about it legally. Again, being a hippie sh1t and running away does not solve anything.

Anyways, that is all from me tonight. I'm headed to sleep. I'll check back on this later, or PM me.

 

[Jugernot]

I would go, but the truth of it is that they would never accept me. I'm too fat right now...

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK

i said within reason, refer to my above posts. don't leap everything in one category.

Again, who defines "reason"? Isn't reason all relative to the individual?

I have read every single one of your posts and I am understanding what you are saying. But again, who is to define "reason" as that is all entirely up to the individual. Violence may be within reason to a specific individual. Murder may be within reason to a specific individual. That is the problem with the "relativism" argument.

This is what law is/does. It creates this level of "reason" that we all agree to abide by as we all have put in our vote. If you don't agree, you have the option of leaving, or doing something about it legally. Again, being a hippie sh1t and running away does not solve anything.

Anyways, that is all from me tonight. I'm headed to sleep. I'll check back on this later, or PM me.

yeah me too. i'm done for tonight too. i'm damn tired. anyways, of course laws are important, and i can't think straight right now but to end it, lets just say that for this particular situation where the question was asked if we would fight, I'm saying i would have to think long and hard before i can say yes or no. i would have to take into account if i truly feel our nation was threatened, or if it was a an exagerration or lies on part of our govt. i would have to look at who i am fighting and think what lead them to this, i would have to think a million things before i would be prepared to kill or be killed. and what i'm saying is, if after all my reflection, i still don't feel it is justified, i would leave the country if i had to. of course, if i feel it is justified, i would fight, and btw, i would probably fight with more determination because i wasn't TOLD to fight, nor was it justified to me. I told myself, i justified it myself.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: Jugernot
I would go, but the truth of it is that they would never accept me. I'm too fat right now...

haha!

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch

Originally posted by: ElFenix
by joining a society you agree to be subject to its laws and resolutions

it's 1939 in germany. you're a law abiding citizen about to be drafted for an all out offensive war against many other countries. the propaganda ministry uses lies to make you perceive a threat and justify the war. you have a chance to escape to, lets say, switzerland. do you do it, or do you do your duty?

what does that have to do with anything?

 

[toant103]

Originally posted by: Aceshigh
I'd do my duty.

 

[Ylen13]

Originally posted by: MedicBob
Can't be drafted Na Na Na!!!


15 years so far in 3 branches of service.

u can be recalled.!

 

[Ylen13]

well they wouldn?t draft me, never register with them in the first place so it would kind of hard to notified me if they don't know even know about it. Yes I am aware that I am breaking federal and even maybe state law by not registering and would be breaking a law when the draft started. I am also aware that I can spend 5 years in prison and have to pay $250000 fine.

 

[palad]

I would take my family and leave for another country (probably Canada). No way would I assist one corrupt government in replacing another corrupt government.

 

[SagaLore]

If I were drafted, I'd convince the military I was much more useful as a computer system expert than as infantry. Although I'm okay physically fit, and I have high reflexes and basic survival training (boy scouts), I have a problem with my right ankle that makes it hard for me to run and I'm developing chronic Adrenal stress that would render me useless after a few weeks in battle.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: aphex
id risk death before i moved to canada.

LOL! Maybe we should just draft Canada.

 

[freegeeks]

From watching all of this go down I would honestly say I would go for it and do what I gotta do even if I die. At least I know I went trying to fight for what this country stands for, freedom.

LOL@freedom

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: Jugernot
I would go, but the truth of it is that they would never accept me. I'm too fat right now...

i'm too fat and too old. at 38, it would be a long time before they drafted me.

 

[Analog]

it would be an honor to serve.

 

[Ylen13]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: Jugernot
I would go, but the truth of it is that they would never accept me. I'm too fat right now...

i'm too fat and too old. at 38, it would be a long time before they drafted me.

so if you are 21 1/2 and 5 feet 6 inch how fat would i need to be, to be to fat for military service??

 

[TrueBlueLS]

Originally posted by: Syringer
Would you evade, move to Canada, or whatever..or would you actually risk your life over there?

I'd spend one last time with the girl I was with this past weekend and then leave to go kick some ass.

 

[Antoneo]

Would anyone be proud to be a draft-dodger?

Send me in man, this country has given me more than enough.

 

[imported_vr6]

"Monster Kill"

although it would kill my family and they would all think i am crazy, i would go if i was called upon.

 

[Ylen13]

Originally posted by: Antoneo
Would anyone be proud to be a draft-dodger?

Send me in man, this country has given me more than enough.

i I would as i said above I am not register for a reason that if draft is necessary our country is f***ed.

 

[palad]

From watching all of this go down I would honestly say I would go for it and do what I gotta do even if I die. At least I know I went trying to fight for what this country stands for, freedom.

Where have you been lately? The US no longer stands for freedom -- it now stands for profits and power. If you want to kill and die so that some politician can line his pockets, feel free. But make no mistake -- if Iraq were some country that had nothing of financial worth, the US wouldn't even look in their general direction. The whole 'freedom' line is merely what the politicians use so that gullible citizens will keep throwing their lives away for nothing.

Would anyone be proud to be a draft-dodger?

I would be proud to know that I was serving my principles and my family. Any country that wages an unprovoked war of aggression, and tries to force me to join in, is no longer a country that I would feel safe being a part of. If a draft were instituted, I would go so far as to act against that country's best interests. If they wound up catching me and putting me in a uniform, I would do whatever I could to sabotage their efforts. They would be better off leaving me alone -- it would cost them much less in the long run.

<flame suit on>

 

[Shade4ever]

eh, I'd be a danger to myself and others if they gave me a gun...I always overlook the obvious, shoot my CS teammates in the back, and would be half-blind or worse w/o my glasses...although I might take my father's route and pre-emptively enlist for a non-combat related field if they tried. Or maybe just follow the few, the cowardly, the movers-to-Canada. Not really certain.

 

[Richdog]

LOL maybe Im just a little cynical, but I can confess to sh*tting my pants at the thought of being drafted into war, never mind actually being there, and I'm no pussy. And for the 66% who claim theyd go for it... well... its always nice to think so isnt it...

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: palad

From watching all of this go down I would honestly say I would go for it and do what I gotta do even if I die. At least I know I went trying to fight for what this country stands for, freedom.

Where have you been lately? The US no longer stands for freedom -- it now stands for profits and power. If you want to kill and die so that some politician can line his pockets, feel free. But make no mistake -- if Iraq were some country that had nothing of financial worth, the US wouldn't even look in their general direction. The whole 'freedom' line is merely what the politicians use so that gullible citizens will keep throwing their lives away for nothing.

Would anyone be proud to be a draft-dodger?

I would be proud to know that I was serving my principles and my family. Any country that wages an unprovoked war of aggression, and tries to force me to join in, is no longer a country that I would feel safe being a part of. If a draft were instituted, I would go so far as to act against that country's best interests. If they wound up catching me and putting me in a uniform, I would do whatever I could to sabotage their efforts. They would be better off leaving me alone -- it would cost them much less in the long run.

<flame suit on>

How is any of this different from the way it's EVER been??

The "Boston Tea Party"?? hmm, how come all of the participants owned Coffee plantations?? there couldn't possibly be a connection could there?? the fact that the Tea even after this so called taxation was cheaper than the local grown coffee, theres not connection there either i'm sure.

Wars have always been fought for the interests of the RICH. nothing new there BUT a lot of good did come of it. The result of these coffee plantation owners throwing tea into the harbor so that they could continue to sell their coffee?? well the richest and strongest nation in the world.