IG: Some Emails on Clinton's Server Were Beyond Top Secret

[NaughtyGeek]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/ig-emails-clintons-server-top-secret-36381492

Updated Info 1/24/16

So she was transporting the highest level of intelligence across an unsecured server but I'm sure we need to just ignore this. It's just Right Wing psycho babble right? If this woman isn't charged and tried, there truly is no justice left in this country.

 

[TheSlamma]

There is plenty of justice, it just doesn't apply when you are rich and can buy your way out of simple easy to read laws.

But as far as you making a point, don't bother, if she was registered as a republican instead of just acting like one then everyone on these forums would be all over it. But the bias is strong with these ones.

 

[ivwshane]

Interesting. So she received these highly classified emails or she sent them?

 

[waggy]

Interesting. So she received these highly classified emails or she sent them?

in reality does it matter? she shouldn't have either done.

but i'm sure people will find a reason to justify it.

 

[ivwshane]

in reality does it matter? she shouldn't have either done.

but i'm sure people will find a reason to justify it.

Oh it absolutely matters! If someone is sending highly classified emails to Hillary then I'm pretty sure they are the ones breaking policy not her. Should you be responsible for what people send you in an email?
Based on discussions on this board, classified data isn't allowed to be transmitted to an email, private or government ran.

 

[waggy]

Oh it absolutely matters! If someone is sending highly classified emails to Hillary then I'm pretty sure they are the ones breaking policy not her. Should you be responsible for what people send you in an email?
Based on discussions on this board, classified data isn't allowed to be transmitted to an email, private or government ran.

They were both breaking policy. She knew that email was to have ZERO classified emails. IF she was to get something classified it needs to go to another email. IT's HER Job as the head of the department to make sure.

She failed on that.

though this ain't the first piece of classified material that went through her email.so meh.

 

[Jhhnn]

Interesting. So she received these highly classified emails or she sent them?

in reality does it matter? she shouldn't have either done.

but i'm sure people will find a reason to justify it.

Which brings us back around to the absurd proposition that she's liable for the contents of her inbox & for information not classified/ not known to be classified at the time.

Perfectly circular reasoning.

It leads to the absurd conclusion that the SoS shouldn't open their inbox prior to the security pinheads going over every new message.

 

[werepossum]

in reality does it matter? she shouldn't have either done.

but i'm sure people will find a reason to justify it.

Why, of course it matters? How else are we to know if Hillary is a victim of the people who viciously sent her classified material without her consent and knowledge, or a victim of the people who caused her to send classified material against her will?

 

[ivwshane]

They were both breaking policy. She knew that email was to have ZERO classified emails. IF she was to get something classified it needs to go to another email. IT's HER Job as the head of the department to make sure.

She failed on that.

though this ain't the first piece of classified material that went through her email.so meh.

Lol what? Let me help illustrate exactly how stupid your point is.

Let's say you are arrested for having child pornagraphy on your computer. Investigators looked at your computer and found an email you didn't open titled "you have to see this!". In the email there are pornographic pictures of children.

Do you:
A) Plead guilty
B) Claim you didn't open it, therefore you aren't guilty

Now apply that standard to Hillary.

 

[ivwshane]

Why, of course it matters? How else are we to know if Hillary is a victim of the people who viciously sent her classified material without her consent and knowledge, or a victim of the people who caused her to send classified material against her will?

Go take your meds, you are acting stupid again.

 

[Darwin333]

Oh it absolutely matters! If someone is sending highly classified emails to Hillary then I'm pretty sure they are the ones breaking policy not her. Should you be responsible for what people send you in an email?
Based on discussions on this board, classified data isn't allowed to be transmitted to an email, private or government ran.

If someone did send her "beyond top secret" classified documents shouldn't she be duty bound to not only report it but to ensure that it is completely destroyed? Obviously it wasn't completely destroyed if someone else was able to find it, not sure if she reported it or not or she was indeed the sender. I do agree that it makes a difference.

 

[ivwshane]

If someone did send her "beyond top secret" classified documents shouldn't she be duty bound to not only report it but to ensure that it is completely destroyed? Obviously it wasn't completely destroyed if someone else was able to find it, not sure if she reported it or not or she was indeed the sender. I do agree that it makes a difference.

How would you expect her to destroy a classified email? Delete it? Melt the server down? And if the sender is already sending highly classified info via inappropriate means then is it possible that these emails weren't properly labeled? Is your expectation that government officials should know what is and isn't classified?
And how do you know she didn't report anything?

 

[werepossum]

Lol what? Let me help illustrate exactly how stupid your point is.

Let's say you are arrested for having child pornagraphy on your computer. Investigators looked at your computer and found an email you didn't open titled "you have to see this!". In the email there are pornographic pictures of children.

Do you:
A) Plead guilty
B) Claim you didn't open it, therefore you aren't guilty

Now apply that standard to Hillary.

Yeah, I'm sure there are legions of lawyers just salivating over this new defense of child pornography possessors being helpless victims of dastardly Internet villains.

tl/dr: Dumbass.

 

[ivwshane]

Yeah, I'm sure there are legions of lawyers just salivating over this new defense of child pornography possessors being helpless victims of dastardly Internet villains.

tl/dr: Dumbass.

So your response is to totally ignore the question and the point being made?

Got it! You stupid shit!

 

[werepossum]

So your response is to totally ignore the question and the point being made?

Got it! You stupid shit!

Nope. I addressed the "point" you felt you were making by mocking it. Not as it deserves - I don't have that kind of time - but mocking it just the same.

 

[master_shake_]

not seeing an issue here

 

[Zorba]

Which brings us back around to the absurd proposition that she's liable for the contents of her inbox & for information not classified/ not known to be classified at the time.

Perfectly circular reasoning.

It leads to the absurd conclusion that the SoS shouldn't open their inbox prior to the security pinheads going over every new message.

Or you use an official, secured server. And REPORT security breaches when they happen, so they can be properly taken care of, as required by law.

I've had to go through this a few times over stuff that was sent to me.

 

[motsm]

I think ivwshane may be having a mild crisis.

 

[Zorba]

How would you expect her to destroy a classified email? Delete it? Melt the server down? And if the sender is already sending highly classified info via inappropriate means then is it possible that these emails weren't properly labeled? Is your expectation that government officials should know what is and isn't classified?
And how do you know she didn't report anything?

Places that work with classified data have procedures for wiping data off devices, including destroying those devices. The company I work for puts smashed cell phones near a doors to classified areas to remind people they might lose their devices if they don't follow the rules.

The fact the classified data was still on her server shows that she did not report it and have the data removed properly.

It is also your job when you work on classified projects to know what is and isn't classified. Of course, this would be a lot of information for SoS, so it is understandable if she missed some confidential report, but I would hope she at least knew what stuff was beyond TS.

 

[Phynaz]

Is your expectation that government officials should know what is and isn't classified?

Read what you wrote.

 

[OutHouse]

How would you expect her to destroy a classified email? Delete it? Melt the server down? And if the sender is already sending highly classified info via inappropriate means then is it possible that these emails weren't properly labeled? Is your expectation that government officials should know what is and isn't classified?
And how do you know she didn't report anything?

step 1 Report it.

for the bold: and you call people in this forum stupid and you write that? good grief.

 

[Jhhnn]

Why, of course it matters? How else are we to know if Hillary is a victim of the people who viciously sent her classified material without her consent and knowledge, or a victim of the people who caused her to send classified material against her will?

Desperate, huh?

It's the partisan back biters who claim some nebulous victimhood in all this, even though they cannot show any real harm has been done. It's flimsier than Benghazi.

 

[ivwshane]

Nope. I addressed the "point" you felt you were making by mocking it. Not as it deserves - I don't have that kind of time - but mocking it just the same.

Of course you don't have the time, you are too busy posting other useless bullshit and straw man arguments! I'm surprised you had time to respond a second time!

 

[nickqt]

Awesome, another nothing burger email thread.

Keep em' comin.

 

[ivwshane]

Read what you wrote.

I did. Do you know how many things are classified? If you do then you would have such an expectation for government officials, especially regarding emails sent to them that obviously don't follow the correct procedure for transmitting classified info.