I'll be damned, I didn't know today was Chick-Fil-A appreciation day.

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SunnyD

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If people were pointedly showing up and waiting in line out of some notion of sticking it to the man, you can bet they are in general agreement with chik-fil-a on the other issues as well. Those people were probably all religious, all disapproving of the gay lifestyle to some degree, and all conservatives. Even though the whole affair is ostensibly about 1st amendment rights, I doubt that placed more than a distant 4th place in importance in most of their minds if they thought about it at all. Its really about "giving Obama the finger" as someone in p&n put it.

I wish people would suddenly decide that shopping at my place of business is the same thing as sticking it to the man.

Isn't that what got this whole mess started in the first place?
 

sourceninja

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Because a guy has opinion about marriage you think it has something to do with black people?

No I'm saying it's no different from any other kind of hate speech. This forum wouldn't tolerate us going on and on about how blacks should be slaves or using the word savages, yet we are perfectly ok with bashing gay people because it's just an 'opinion'.
 

sourceninja

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Black Activists: Liberal Protest of Chick-Fil-A is 'Ultimate Example of Intolerance'

From the article:

“I think liberals are missing a vital point in their blind hatred of Chick-fil-A,” Project 21’s Demetrius Minor said. “Being against gay marriage is not being anti-gay.”

Minor said the fast-food company, in fact, doesn’t discriminate against anybody, and it's a lie to try to say they do."

All the best,
Uno

Being pro slavery and against black rights isn't anti black..I'm just a traditionalist with good christian values.
 

Fritzo

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Come on now, you know you're only supposed to pick and choose the parts of the ancient book that you can somehow make applicable to real life.

That's good, because:

Leviticus 26:29-

You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.
 

AMDZen

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Black Activists: Liberal Protest of Chick-Fil-A is 'Ultimate Example of Intolerance'

From the article:

“I think liberals are missing a vital point in their blind hatred of Chick-fil-A,” Project 21’s Demetrius Minor said. “Being against gay marriage is not being anti-gay.”

Minor said the fast-food company, in fact, doesn’t discriminate against anybody, and it's a lie to try to say they do."

All the best,
Uno

I think members of the Project 21 leadership network of Black conservatives are missing the point here. Being for free black labor is not being anti-black, I'm just being pro-free labor. Sheesh.

I'm not anti-black because I think they should sit at the back of the bus, I'm still letting them ride the bus, am I not?
 

skagen5555

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No I'm saying it's no different from any other kind of hate speech. This forum wouldn't tolerate us going on and on about how blacks should be slaves or using the word savages, yet we are perfectly ok with bashing gay people because it's just an 'opinion'.

No one is saying gay people are inferior or a sub-human. It's more of a difference of "religion" which AT has no qualms about bashing.
 

Josh123

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No I'm saying it's no different from any other kind of hate speech. This forum wouldn't tolerate us going on and on about how blacks should be slaves or using the word savages, yet we are perfectly ok with bashing gay people because it's just an 'opinion'.

Seriously, who the hell is bashing gay people here?
 

Aikouka

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I thought the issue was with Chic-Fil-A's philanthropic arm actively donating to organization(s) that promote the Biblical definition of marriage? People keep obsessing over "free speech" for some strange reason, but why am I surprised that religious folk put the blinders on?

(Oh, I went there!)
 

skagen5555

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That's good, because:

Leviticus 26:29-

You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.

Protestant Christians no longer live under the old testament covenant, but under the new testament covenant.

context... not just for that verse... but for the entire book & Bible would help you understand if you wanted to.
 

Linflas

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I thought the issue was with Chic-Fil-A's philanthropic arm actively donating to organization(s) that promote the Biblical definition of marriage? People keep obsessing over "free speech" for some strange reason, but why am I surprised that religious folk put the blinders on?

(Oh, I went there!)

They are free to donate to what ever they want to donate to just as you are free to decide to take your business elsewhere if you don't like what they donate their money to. What you and many seem to miss in this whole discussion is that government has no right to deny them permission to locate their restaurants anyplace where it is legally zoned for them to do business based on the causes they support or the opinions of their owners so long as their business is operated in compliance with the law.
 

rcpratt

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Good for CFA for having a "record-setting day" yesterday.

Too bad their stance is going to lose them far more money that than in the long run.
 

Sinsear

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I wish there was a Chik-Fil-A near me. This country could use a few more businesses run by people with wholesome family values.
 

slag

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If people were pointedly showing up and waiting in line out of some notion of sticking it to the man, you can bet they are in general agreement with chik-fil-a on the other issues as well. Those people were probably all religious, all disapproving of the gay lifestyle to some degree, and all conservatives. Even though the whole affair is ostensibly about 1st amendment rights, I doubt that placed more than a distant 4th place in importance in most of their minds if they thought about it at all. Its really about "giving Obama the finger" as someone in p&n put it.

I wish people would suddenly decide that shopping at my place of business is the same thing as sticking it to the man.

I think you would be wrong. I have no problem with gay people and some of my friends are gay. So what, its your lifestyle, do what you want. I do, however, draw a line at gay marriage. Actually, my problem is with the use of the word "marriage". I don't mind gay people living together and having a family, but its not a marriage, and as such, I cannot support it. I'm not bigoted towards gays and I would imagine most people arent, its just the Christian conservative majority that has a problem with gay marriage, not gay people.

I go out on facebook and twitter and other forums and see all these young people talking about how Chik Fil A is so anti gay. No, they aren't. The company as a whole has taken a stance against gay marriage, but does actively employ gay people. Sure, Chik Fil A's president gave money to many groups, some of which have an anti gay stance, but he gave money to them because they promote a traditional family environment. I give money to the united way and I'm sure, somewhere buried deep in there, you can find an organization or individual tied to an organization that has donated money to something I don't like. So what, its their perrogative.

Also, I'd go to chik fil a if they had one in my town.
 

sourceninja

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No one is saying gay people are inferior or a sub-human. It's more of a difference of "religion" which AT has no qualms about bashing.

I'm not saying black people are sub human. I'm saying the bible says that I can own slaves and that the black people are cursed to be slaves. I respect them in every other way, it's just a difference in religion.
 

slayer202

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I picked up Chick-fil-A last night for dinner for me and my wife. People getting into a huge uproar because the man was being honest about his belief just shows there's a double standard.

Gay rights groups want everyone to accept who they are but they can't accept the way other people feel? Grow up.

If you're serious, you're an idiot.

One side is saying "we want to take away your rights! And we give millions to groups who are working on taking them away from you!"

No one with a brain can say "ok well that's your opinion, no problem!"

The other side just wants their deserved rights
 

sourceninja

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I think you would be wrong. I have no problem with gay people and some of my friends are gay. So what, its your lifestyle, do what you want. I do, however, draw a line at gay marriage. Actually, my problem is with the use of the word "marriage". I don't mind gay people living together and having a family, but its not a marriage, and as such, I cannot support it. I'm not bigoted towards gays and I would imagine most people arent, its just the Christian conservative majority that has a problem with gay marriage, not gay people.

I go out on facebook and twitter and other forums and see all these young people talking about how Chik Fil A is so anti gay. No, they aren't. The company as a whole has taken a stance against gay marriage, but does actively employ gay people. Sure, Chik Fil A's president gave money to many groups, some of which have an anti gay stance, but he gave money to them because they promote a traditional family environment. I give money to the united way and I'm sure, somewhere buried deep in there, you can find an organization or individual tied to an organization that has donated money to something I don't like. So what, its their perrogative.

Also, I'd go to chik fil a if they had one in my town.

Define biblical marriage and show how it is respected in america. I would say that most marriages in america are already non-biblical. I was married by a gay, drunk, cat lady in a park, as an atheist to my atheist wife. Is that the sanctity of marriage you want to protect?

I personally want to see the legal status of marriage removed. I do not want government regulating who can or can't get married. I want the government to take all the legal rights that go with marriage, and create a legal document that can be created between any two people regardless of race, religion, or sexual beliefs. Then you can let people who want marriage to go to churches and people who want legal protect to go to lawyers. In the end it gives us more freedom of religion and protects the rights of bigots and progressives alike.
 

slag

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No I'm saying it's no different from any other kind of hate speech. This forum wouldn't tolerate us going on and on about how blacks should be slaves or using the word savages, yet we are perfectly ok with bashing gay people because it's just an 'opinion'.

404 bashing gay people not found.

Just because someone is against gay marriage, that doesn't mean they are against gay people and their lifestyle.
 

slag

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Define biblical marriage and show how it is respected in america. I would say that most marriages in america are already non-biblical. I was married by a gay, drunk, cat lady in a park, as an atheist to my atheist wife. Is that the sanctity of marriage you want to protect?

I personally want to see the legal status of marriage removed. I do not want government regulating who can or can't get married. I want the government to take all the legal rights that go with marriage, and create a legal document that can be created between any two people regardless of race, religion, or sexual beliefs. Then you can let people who want marriage to go to churches and people who want legal protect to go to lawyers. In the end it gives us more freedom of religion and protects the rights of bigots and progressives alike.

You are a very large part of what is wrong with this country and I wish you would dig a big hole and climb into it.

You have no dog in this fight since it is a Christian viewpoint, so please leave.
 

AMDZen

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Seriously, who the hell is bashing gay people here?

Obviously you don't get it, and even after I spell it out for you - you probably still won't but lets try any way.

Anytime a group of people don't have certain inalienable rights which everyone else has, you're discriminating against them and thus (the argument can be made that you're) bashing them.

Obviously there is a reason why you think certain people shouldn't have the same rights as everyone else, and the only possible reason would be a negative thought toward that group of people.

The same argument has been made throughout all of history. Just because you don't think woman should vote doesn't mean you hate woman. Well, as long as woman want the right to vote, one which you're not giving them - then you're discriminating against them.

You are a very large part of what is wrong with this country and I wish you would dig a big hole and climb into it.

And I can promise you that a larger portion of this forum feels that way about you

Personally, I think that religious people shouldn't be allowed to vote. I can make that statement and still say, I'm not discriminating against religious people. They can still practice their religion, I have nothing against their lifestyle.

In reality - you're damn right I'm bashing religious people by making that statement because they're too stupid to have a say on what happens in this country
 
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TechBoyJK

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Who says it's about surprise? Does it make civil rights violation/discrimination okay?

What if I liked raping babies and actively provided my profit to pedophile groups, that's okay too right? It's free speech.

CFA hasn't violated any rights or discriminated against anybody.

And equating being against gay marriage to raping babies and supporting pedophiles is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
 

Platypus

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404 bashing gay people not found.

Just because someone is against gay marriage, that doesn't mean they are against gay people and their lifestyle.

Are people still using this stupid argument? All it takes is like 5 seconds to research and find that charities directly funded by chick-fil-a put up $25,000 to lobby FOR the US supporting the 'kill the gays' bill in Uganda. How is that not hatred? Advocating for putting gays to death just for being who they are...how can people possibly deny that this is about as unAmerican as you can fucking possibly get?
 
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