I'll just leave this here...Pic of beer tasting

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rocadelpunk

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Pliny, Footprint, Matilda 2010, firestone 13, firestone 15, rasputin x (aged 5 yrs), and one of like 552 stone/maui/ken schmidt collab (awesome story behind this beer).
 

destrekor

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How would you compare that Old Rasputin X to the standard Old Rasputin?

Love me some Rasputin.
 

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Ever seen a chocolate commercial when they show the flowing chocolate and describe it as silky smooth, that image you have in your brain right now is rasputin x.
 

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rasputin is good, havent had the x, or anything in your pic

waiting to see pliny the elder, i should request it at the specialty beer place next time i go.
also: pass on anything coconut. tastes really odd to me when in beer.
 

destrekor

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Ever seen a chocolate commercial when they show the flowing chocolate and describe it as silky smooth, that image you have in your brain right now is rasputin x.

I'm drooling.
Should I be drooling?


Do you like the taste more? Is it more bitter, more flavorful, or even have flavors that are less desirable, in your opinion, than the standard variety?
 

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So the story behind the stone/maui/ken schmidt collab is there was a contest for homebrewers to submit their recipe and this one won. The makers were tired with specialty beers like pliny always getting bought out and then sold for profit instead of enjoyed by beer lovers. So they released the beer, but didn't tell anyone till a couple years later or so that "oh yeah we kept some and had aged them in bourbon barrels." They sell raffle tickets (donated to charity) and if you won the raffle it got you the right to go to the brewery and purchase the beer in person.
 

rocadelpunk

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I'm drooling.
Should I be drooling?


Do you like the taste more? Is it more bitter, more flavorful, or even have flavors that are less desirable, in your opinion, than the standard variety?

So I actually had a rasputin at dinner not realizing my friend was going to open up the x (notice its been aged for 5 yrs too). There is no bitterness/bite what so ever. The most pronounced flavor is that bourbon/oak, but it's so damn smooth and clean it just envelops your tongue. I would say the biggest difference is with rasputin you get that roasted malt/espresso smell that hits you. This is pure oaky/bourbon goodness.
 

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Love pliney- usually get a bottle or 2 each month a week or 2 after it's brewed- I've never found it on tap or tried pliney the younger though
 

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Ever seen a chocolate commercial when they show the flowing chocolate and describe it as silky smooth, that image you have in your brain right now is rasputin x.

Ever tried the chocolate yeti from great divide? Tastes great but for me the chocolate quickly became too much and really struggled finishing the bottle...been weary of trying other chocolate beers after that...
 

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Ever tried the chocolate yeti from great divide? Tastes great but for me the chocolate quickly became too much and really struggled finishing the bottle...been weary of trying other chocolate beers after that...

It wasn't that it tasted like chocolate, just that silky flow of melted chocolate. I've had some Yeti from great divide, not sure if it's the chocolate...Usually not a fan of specific chocolate beers, but "notes" of it or whatever are usually in stouts somewhere.
 

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It wasn't that it tasted like chocolate, just that silky flow of melted chocolate. I've had some Yeti from great divide, not sure if it's the chocolate...Usually not a fan of specific chocolate beers, but "notes" of it or whatever are usually in stouts somewhere.

"notes of chocolate", in terms of profiling beer flavors, is usually just a characteristic of certain roasting methods, grain selection, and the method of brewing. Beers with "notes of such and such" are almost certainly not using those flavors as ingredients, it just happens to end up having minor shared characteristics on the palate.



As for chocolate beers in general, they are hit and miss in terms of quality and overall style of chocolate use. I'm a huge fan of chocolate beers (in moderation), and love a few different styles. Some taste very chocolaty, some have minor hints of the chocolate involved, some have a more nutty version of chocolate while others are almost rich with a full chocolate flavor.

One of my favorites is Dogfishhead's Theobroma. It stands out not just for the overall approach to chocolate flavor in beer, but because it's also not a common brew style. Usually you see it in stouts and porters, for the two flavor styles compliment each other imho. But Theobroma has a light beer approach (though it has an approx 10% ABV), in that it's a golden light-colored beer, it is quite cloudy though, and it is fairly rich/heavy, and the chocolate (and cacao nibs are used iirc - which gives it a different "chocolate" profile) lends a sweet flavor to it. Finishing a full bomber of it by myself is no problem, though I usually don't WANT to, simply because I want it to last longer.

Young's Double Chocolate Stout is also quite tasty. Can't recall how to describe the flavor, as it's been awhile since I've had one. Chocolate Bocks can also be quite tasty.
 

rocadelpunk

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"notes of chocolate", in terms of profiling beer flavors, is usually just a characteristic of certain roasting methods, grain selection, and the method of brewing. Beers with "notes of such and such" are almost certainly not using those flavors as ingredients, it just happens to end up having minor shared characteristics on the palate.



As for chocolate beers in general, they are hit and miss in terms of quality and overall style of chocolate use. I'm a huge fan of chocolate beers (in moderation), and love a few different styles. Some taste very chocolaty, some have minor hints of the chocolate involved, some have a more nutty version of chocolate while others are almost rich with a full chocolate flavor.

One of my favorites is Dogfishhead's Theobroma. It stands out not just for the overall approach to chocolate flavor in beer, but because it's also not a common brew style. Usually you see it in stouts and porters, for the two flavor styles compliment each other imho. But Theobroma has a light beer approach (though it has an approx 10% ABV), in that it's a golden light-colored beer, it is quite cloudy though, and it is fairly rich/heavy, and the chocolate (and cacao nibs are used iirc - which gives it a different "chocolate" profile) lends a sweet flavor to it. Finishing a full bomber of it by myself is no problem, though I usually don't WANT to, simply because I want it to last longer.

Young's Double Chocolate Stout is also quite tasty. Can't recall how to describe the flavor, as it's been awhile since I've had one. Chocolate Bocks can also be quite tasty.

Mmm theo, that was a good one!
 
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