Originally posted by: TallBill
Wow, someone poured a whole bucket of stupid all over this thread.
Death penalty for border crossing is so temptingly good.
If put in effect, the number of attempts would drop severly.
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
To me, the issue is not that he is illegal or was drunk when he killed that student. The main thing IMO is that because he is illegal there are no repercussions for his actions. He killed a person and he is just let go. That's where the issue is IMO. If it was a drunk american that killed that kid, sure, he was drunk, but then he would be arrested and put in jail for manslaughter, but this guy is free to go and he is free to come back again.
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
To me, the issue is not that he is illegal or was drunk when he killed that student. The main thing IMO is that because he is illegal there are no repercussions for his actions. He killed a person and he is just let go. That's where the issue is IMO. If it was a drunk american that killed that kid, sure, he was drunk, but then he would be arrested and put in jail for manslaughter, but this guy is free to go and he is free to come back again.
Would you rather he be swooped up and put in prison where he can further leech on us good tax paying folk without trying as hard to do so outside of prison?
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
no man, you misunderstood...i said they should curb illegal immigration. but you cant blame illegal immigration on drunk driving.
Originally posted by: waggy
well this kind of crap will continue to happen until something major is traced to the boarder. Then maybe then they will lock it down. But until then 1 or 2 people dieing because of them is not going to matter.
Originally posted by: DrPizza
wtf?? Yet my school's senior class had to be fingerprinted, photographed, special ID's, etc. so they could go on a senior trip to Toronto??!
I feel so much safer now. I'm apparently protected from school children who might want to do a trip to the U.S. from Canada.
Why do you think his ass would fry? It is not likely that he getting the chair for that crime, however the out cry will cost the system much more money than his life worth to make him face justice.Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Remy XO
Anyone hear about the story of the deaf, illiterate (meaning he didnt speak spanish, english or sign) immigrant that grew up with no family and came to America for work. He raped and killed a woman and at the end of the story they couldn't trail him because no one could tell him his rights and no one can legally defend him since he didnt know any languages.
Yup, heard it and it sickens me. I'd personally tutor him in English every night and on weekends just so that his ass could fry.
Originally posted by: JinLien
Why do you think his ass would fry? It is not likely that he getting the chair for that crime, however the out cry will cost the system much more money than his life worth to make him face justice.Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Remy XO
Anyone hear about the story of the deaf, illiterate (meaning he didnt speak spanish, english or sign) immigrant that grew up with no family and came to America for work. He raped and killed a woman and at the end of the story they couldn't trail him because no one could tell him his rights and no one can legally defend him since he didnt know any languages.
Yup, heard it and it sickens me. I'd personally tutor him in English every night and on weekends just so that his ass could fry.
Also a wall wouldn't work too well because it would alienate America...turning the land of freedom into the land of ex oppressed Eastern Germany/Israel. It would do more good if America help/work with its neighbor to solve the problem.
Ahh, it'll all be Chinese Produce sooner or later anyway. Gilro, which used to use domestic garlic at theuir Garlic Festival, is now importing garlic from China for said festival.Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: illusion88
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I say tighten up the borders.
Not that it would prevent drunk driving, but this guy did come back in 18 times.
There is alot more to it then one man who kills a women while drunk.
Thightening up the borders would destroy californias argiculture.
God forbid they'd have to pay an American a decent wage... but that's not the American way, is it?
Originally posted by: LeiZaK
Originally posted by: Mo0o
How about we just kill him
How about we just kill you?
Originally posted by: Agnostos Insania
Originally posted by: Ktulu
you do realize NOBODY here is a real american, except for Native Americans, we all immigrated from some where, this country was built on immigration and it will be sustained through immigration.
Yes, but the Europeans and Asian immigrants contribute to society. The Mexican and S. American immigrants are leeches.
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
yes, i beleive that they should tighten the border and issue out set number of greencards for mexican immigrants. however, blaming illegals for drunk driving is terrible.
Do you know the kkk has a video program dedicated to showing all crimes committed by minorities. According to them, thats justification enough to hate, and it seems people here are doing the same.
Yes yes, the usual "if you don't like illegal immigration you're a racist" drivel.
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
dude, cop the attitude and be open minded.Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
chill, k?Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: moshquerade
they really aren't taking jobs from real Americans. they come over here and do the jobs that no Americans want to do.Originally posted by: Legend
Originally posted by: Xcobra
Ok ok...wtf...youre all saying that if the illegal immigrant wasnt here, then that wouldnt have happened right? ok ok, so wtf do you have to say about all those fvcking drunk fvckers that drink and drive and kill many innocent people?? just because the guy was illegal, youre trying to blame all the illegal immigrants for it, wtf. i mean i agree that he should be punished with the full extent of the law but damn blame it on all illegal immigrants. besides this country would be nothing without them. unless americans would be willing to work in the fields, as a janitor, etc. So lets not just jump into conclusion about what to do with them without thinking of the consequences. Yeah sure they have broken the law but they have become important to this country. just my opinion.
Really his point is that this wouldn't have happened if our immigration control wasn't so damn bad. The guy came over 18 times.
Our country would be nothing without them? So by taking jobs from real Americans and dramatically increasing a non-integrated foreign culture we've bettered America?
where my brother is a lot of the Mexicans sneak over to pick crops for farmers.
Bullsh*t!!!! They do those jobs because of greed. why pay an american a living wage when you have a bunch of illegals who will do it for 3 bucks an hour. The reason for this is because ICE doesnt do a damn thing about it. Last year you know how many companies ICE fined for employing illegals? 3, yea thats right 3.
if ICE would get off their ass and bring the hammer down on companies how hire illegals the flood will never stop. My plan would be a 3 strike system
1. warning.
2. 25K fine per illegal employed
3. 5 years in jail and 500,000 fine
If my system was in place there wouldnt be an illegal problem.
you fail to realize how lazy Americans are. no one is willing to pick strawberries for minimum wage either.
tell me how lazy are Americans?? Please tell me??? Tell us we really want to know.
my brother is a border patrol agent. he sees exactly what is going on.
did you answer the question asked of you earlier. would you do these jobs, such as picking crops, for minimum wage?
no im not dropping the "attitude" this topic/subject pisses me off and i will voice my opinion on it. I am not alone in my stance on the immigration problem ask around dude and see what your friends, family neighbors think about it.
to answer the question, no I would not pick strawberries for min wage. That is why I went to college so i wouldnt be in that situation. satisified??
Well of course you went to college, but how about them? they have no opportunities whatsoever to get a decent education like you did. they do those jobs because theyre in need, and youre not thats why you wouldnt do it. do you think theyd be doing it if they went to college and all that? no one would. they dont have the resources to get a better education.
Yes it is unfortunate that they do not have the opportunities that we do. However, it is my belief that we should work to better America and it's citizens first, before we try to tackle the world.
Leave charity to charity.
100% agree with you
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: chambersc
that 1500mile fence is starting to sound like a REAL good idea ...
I agree 100% But actually, I'd like two 1500 mile fences 20 feet high and about 20 yards apart. The space between the fences would be mined. Presence between the fences would indicate consent to be shot multiple times. Crossing would be allowed only at checkpoints. Attempt to run the checkpoint would indicate consent for the car/truck/person to be blown to pieces.
From most of your posts I would assume you are a liberal (well I would say we disagree on most issues at least) and I am definitely a conservative yet I have been saying EXACTLY the same thing you just posted for years....so what are the stupid politicians afraid of?
Originally posted by: Warman
lol@this, you b!tch and moan about this , but im sure most of you guys have no problems with wasting millions of dollars (YOUR TAX DOLLARS) to go to the other side of the world to "liberate" iraqi people.
why help citizens of a peaceful southern neighbor country when u can help citizens of a country that hates and kills americans right???
hahahaha hipocresy at its best.
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: chambersc
that 1500mile fence is starting to sound like a REAL good idea ...
I agree 100% But actually, I'd like two 1500 mile fences 20 feet high and about 20 yards apart. The space between the fences would be mined. Presence between the fences would indicate consent to be shot multiple times. Crossing would be allowed only at checkpoints. Attempt to run the checkpoint would indicate consent for the car/truck/person to be blown to pieces.