Actually I'm pretty sure you're trying to push your morals on the founding fathers, you may want to feel like you know but you're mistaken, but hey, it's a free country right
Actually I'm pretty sure you're trying to push your morals on the founding fathers, you may want to feel like you know but you're mistaken, but hey, it's a free country rightThat's the problem, but they aren't mine, I just borrowed them from the people who made the nation you claim to love, but clearly do not understand at all.
Anyway I've said my piece. Believe what you will at your own peril.
They also did deport her mother.. it's not like the government is rounding up kids off the street and sending them back across.
I don't have an issue with that. Some people will still get through though, and we need to deal with that in a just manner. Deporting children isn't the right way to go.
By rewarding the girl in this case will make a mockery of our immigration law and the tens of million that waiting for years to do the right thing.
She just have to move to the back of the line, as other LEGALS have been doing for years.
If we continue to give exceptions, then more and more folks will be like her/her family. They would get a visitor visa for a few months, stay in the US for a few months and then would not go back home. Then cry to the news outlet ==> boom, grant exceptions and get skip all the way to the begining of the line. Not a good idea.
Actually I'm pretty sure you're trying to push your morals on the founding fathers, you may want to feel like you know but you're mistaken, but hey, it's a free country right
what happens is upholding the "law" destroys the reason the law exists for in the first place.
Yea, but it severely affects the girl who is an innocent third party. If they caught them when the girl was 6, I wouldn't have an issue with it. Removing someone from the only life they've known isn't right, and can't be justified outside of interpreting law books.
You've got a point there, in fact there have been a shit ton of laws made since then...let's just wipe them all off the books and just go back to the day the country was founded and say fuck it then, if they didn't need law for it back then then we don't need one for it now:thumbsup:There was no immigration law when this country was founded.
fixedFuck yea everyone should be let in the U.S., the local population of the U.S. today is a lazy and entitled bunch we need some hard working people to get in this bitch.
Yea, but it severely affects the girl who is an innocent third party. If they caught them when the girl was 6, I wouldn't have an issue with it. Removing someone from the only life they've known isn't right, and can't be justified outside of interpreting law books.
While I understand your point, what's the solution for these kids? Letting their parents/family stay is a de facto amnesty...limited as it may be.
If I go out, and in good faith, buy a car that had been stolen 10 years ago...do I get to keep said stolen car if the DMV finds out that it was stolen so long ago? After all, I did nothing wrong...:whiste:
Not exactly answering his question now are we? Would he get to keep the car? Hell no he would notAgain, it comes down to details. I'd guess it would be a criminal, as well as civil matter with whoever forged the title transfer.
Not exactly answering his question now are we? Would he get to keep the car? Hell no he would not
Ok let's change it just slightly...my Dad steals a car and gives it to me as a present. A year later it's discovered, I didn't break any laws and will probably lose my job if I can't get to work if they take it away from me. Do I get to keep it? I didn't do anything wrong, it was my parent, why should I suffer?You can't compare the two. The question can't be answered because they aren't alike. It's like the nonsense term "intellectual property". What are we talking about? Trademark law? Patent law? Copyright??
Its called humanitarian reasons. 1. She didnt do anything illegal. 2. The only life she knows is life in the US. 3. She cannot function in Mexico as she can't go to school or work.
No habla english...they can't speak english here and they certainly can't speak english there...I feel for her but she should learn spanish like we in america areShe did do something illegal. It may not have been her choice, but she did do something illegal.
And why can't she go to school or work in Mexico?
Ok let's change it just slightly...my Dad steals a car and gives it to me as a present. A year later it's discovered, I didn't break any laws and will probably lose my job if I can't get to work if they take it away from me. Do I get to keep it? I didn't do anything wrong, it was my parent, why should I suffer?
Oh yeah, and the founding fathers didn't have any laws against stealing cars either so the law is morally wrong
I'd like to shoot them but whatever. Obama already said they get to stay.
Aw why don't you guys like them? They like you. They told me they think you are really cool.As much as I hate Mexicans I have to agree with you on this one
The consequences may be on different levels but the analogy is pretty sound. You aren't breaking the law, your parents do and you have to deal with the consequences. Even if you aren't "at fault" it doesn't change the situation.That still isn't very comparable. Losing a car or a job is trivial when compared to getting deported to a foreign country. Regardless of what the girl's papers say, she was as Mexican as I am German.
God I wish...sadly I'm still at work tooLOL @ corwin's last few posts. Are you drinking already? Some of us are still at work.
You've got a point there, in fact there have been a shit ton of laws made since then...let's just wipe them all off the books and just go back to the day the country was founded and say fuck it then, if they didn't need law for it back then then we don't need one for it now:thumbsup:
There goes my speeding ticket:awe:
Actually nobody was deported at all, they left of their own accord and just aren't being allowed back in.
Yea, but it severely affects the girl who is an innocent third party. If they caught them when the girl was 6, I wouldn't have an issue with it. Removing someone from the only life they've known isn't right, and can't be justified outside of interpreting law books.
I don't have a problem with ponzi schemes. This country's entire economy is a ponzi scheme :^DI don't really agree with this logic. What about the guy that creates a ponzi scheme stealing millions off of people. Should we allow that person's kids to keep a ton of money because it's the only life they've ever known?