Illinois State Attorney is a pos that let crimial walk.

Xellos2099

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Kim Foxx is someone who have a long history of going very easy on criminal. This only made headline because it was a retired cop who did the shooting. In additional, usually a accomplice usually got charged as responsible for the death in the action of a crime, no?
 

Moonbeam

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Why exactly would a judge have a side of the story if the state declines to file charges?
What I should of said is where is the rational behind the judgment of the state attorney general, in other words, where is the other side of the story. I see an attempt to sway my thinking on the matter without the other side of the story. I feel that an honest attempt to come to conclusions are not presented in a one sided manner. Such behavior is typical of somebody with an ax to grind.
 

Xellos2099

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All I know she often refuse to press charge to known criminal. Let's put this way, is there any logical reason why it is a known carjacking and the retired officer shoot one dead and they were let go.
 

SKORPI0

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“We had insufficient evidence to meet our burden against either of the other two individuals arrested,” the state’s attorney’s office said in a statement.
“This decision was made with the concurrence of the CPD detectives involved in the investigation.”

The 20 yr. suspect who was killed already had a police record (criminal trespass) and released from jail last Jan 11th. Not sure why he choose car jacking for last/final crime
https://www.rapsheets.org/illinois/chicago-jail/WEST_LAZARICK/17524068


Kim Foxx gets a report card
 
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Jhhnn

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from the article-

“We had insufficient evidence to meet our burden against either of the other two individuals arrested,” the state’s attorney’s office said in a statement. “This decision was made with the concurrence of the CPD detectives involved in the investigation.”

The cops said to let them go. There's clearly more to the story than the FOP is saying.
 

shortylickens

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It happens a lot. The sad fact is we got WAY too many people filling jails and prisons right now. Unless the DA has a rock solid case they tend to cut people free.
the guy who threatened me in that parking lot was set loose. He had manslaughter convictions and MANY other violent convictions and a shitload of Failure To Appears. He was also several hundred miles away from home and a dozen warrants when they picked him up. Obvious flight risk. Georgia keeps letting him out.

By the way, America has a greater prison population that countries with several times our population.
 

GagHalfrunt

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What I should of said is where is the rational behind the judgment of the state attorney general, in other words, where is the other side of the story. I see an attempt to sway my thinking on the matter without the other side of the story. I feel that an honest attempt to come to conclusions are not presented in a one sided manner. Such behavior is typical of somebody with an ax to grind.

What you should have said is "What I should of have said is..."


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By the way, America has a greater prison population that countries with several times our population.

We're #1!! We're #1!! We're #1!! America, fuck yeah!!

That's rarely a concern when deciding whether or not to prosecute. In most places they just shovel them in and out faster if there are overcrowding problems, go shorter sentences, but get the convictions to supposedly send a message and look tough on crime. If a prosecutor declines to follow up on a case it's probably for some other reasons. It's possible the case against the other two really is wobbly, no prosecutors go after anything but slam dunks. Wins make careers and losses ruin them. Nobody cares about who is actually guilty or not, the scoreboard is the only thing that counts. It's also possible that it's a marginal or bad shooting and that they want the whole thing to go away quickly before it all blows up and they're forced to go after the ex-cop. If I was a gambling man I'd put the ranch on option #2.
 

Moonbeam

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What you should have said is "What I should of have said is..."
That's not the worst of it. I spent a good 5 minutes looking for a link to prove to you the proper expression is should have not should of which I was unaware I had actually said. I am auditory rather than visual. I hear words, I can't see them. of is pronounced just like 've so it sounded to me like I had it right. The fault therefore wasn't with my grammar but my spelling. A grammar mistake I regularly make is, "Where's my socks." I think of socks as a singular pair not as s plural. And 'where're' is hard to say.
 

K1052

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from the article-



The cops said to let them go. There's clearly more to the story than the FOP is saying.

This. I'm not inclined to take the word of the FOP here knowing them as I do.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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You guys have something like a quarter of the worlds prison population!

Way too many for the wrong reasons, but I'm not ready to put money on our relative world standing. Certainly higher than Europe with our drug laws, but if I had to bet China is not looking good and there's no compelling reason to state statistics.
 

K1052

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Way too many for the wrong reasons, but I'm not ready to put money on our relative world standing. Certainly higher than Europe with our drug laws, but if I had to bet China is not looking good and there's no compelling reason to state statistics.

China is not the standard I'd like our justice system to be judged against.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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China is not the standard I'd like our justice system to be judged against.
That's true. It's a shame we've been able to do something material about much of it, drug penalties, for decades, especially in the last dozen years with our current state of science, but "I don't want to look bad" politics has put many hundreds of thousands into prison during that time without need.

Ah well, that's how politics rolls.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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You're going to be keeping company with China and Russia however you slice your statistics. Is that a great place to be? Your country to decide I guess.



About an order of magnitude higher.


I've covered that before and got shit for calling out people for the reason. It's what we deserve I guess.
 

Sunburn74

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I think the devil is in the details. Maybe there were problems with the case.
I remember a TV show where a friend is talking to another friend about being just mugged. The conversation went something like this

Mark: "So I was walking and these two teens approached me and asked for my wallet"
Jeremy: "ok... so then what happened"
Mark: "well i gave them my wallet and then they told me to get out of here and I left"
Jeremy: "oh wow, that's rough man. Getting robbed at gunpoint in broad daylight, thats crazy"
Mark: "actually there wasn't a gun"
Jeremy: "oh so he had a knife instead?"
Mark: "no I didn't see a knife. I would have remembered a knife. I didn't see a knife"
Jeremy: "well did they threaten you with something? like beating you up? smashing your face?"
Mark: "no... no.. I don't think so"
Jeremy: "so basically two teens asked for your wallet and you just gave them your wallet and left when they told you to?"
Mark: "yeah I guess so"

Jeremy walks away at this point.
 

ch33zw1z

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I'm not big on letting criminals go free, but innocent until proven guilty, right? Or is that only for certain people now.

Anyways, from the article:

“We had insufficient evidence to meet our burden against either of the other two individuals arrested,” the state’s attorney’s office said in a statement. “This decision was made with the concurrence of the CPD detectives involved in the investigation.”
 
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