I'm 28 & I've never had a beer before

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GTSRguy

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im 21 and ive never had a beer

and have no intention in having one anytime soon, taste like sh-t to me

***and before somone asks how i know what it taste like if i never drank my response is i smell is and i know, smell and taste are linked
 

n7

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Stella Artois.

I don't drink lots of beer, but i've yet to find anything i prefer over Stella.
 

joesmoke

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Originally posted by: GTSRguy
im 21 and ive never had a beer

and have no intention in having one anytime soon, taste like sh-t to me

***and before somone asks how i know what it taste like if i never drank my response is i smell is and i know, smell and taste are linked

well then you must taste like douche
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: KillerCharlie
Aren't there any local microbrews? Blue moon isn't bad though.

Definitely don't have the mothership wit, that stuff is nasty.

I just started drinking beer a couple years ago (25). I didn't like it at first but now I love it. It's an acquired taste but it's easier if you start with the right beers. It's a lot easier for me when there are so many breweries around here. Any restaurant will usually have at least 5-10 local microbrews on tap.

LOL. Mothership is true to the style of white ales. Blue Moon is mass produced spin on the style done by Coors.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: zinfamous
...and no one considers porter a "dessert beer." that doesn't make any sense. if anything, people who drink beer consider porter a "real man's beer."

Way to speak for the whole of humanity :roll: It's described as such because porters made with chocolate tend to be less bitter, more smooth, some pretty sweet actually, something you don't chug down with dinner. Something you'd nurse after dinner, etc.

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well, unless you're Irish. In which case a porter would be called dinner.

besides, you already tried to speak for the whole of humanity. I like a porter just fine with dinner and I've had many varieties. I haven't actually had a chocolate one that a prefer over any other. The only coffee porter that I can remember trying was Redhook's Double Black porter--picked it up at the brewery.

Sam Adam's honey porter is freaking great. That reminds me.....
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: KillerCharlie
Aren't there any local microbrews? Blue moon isn't bad though.

Definitely don't have the mothership wit, that stuff is nasty.

I just started drinking beer a couple years ago (25). I didn't like it at first but now I love it. It's an acquired taste but it's easier if you start with the right beers. It's a lot easier for me when there are so many breweries around here. Any restaurant will usually have at least 5-10 local microbrews on tap.

LOL. Mothership is true to the style of white ales. Blue Moon is mass produced spin on the style done by Coors.

accepting Blue Moon over New Belgium * is :laugh:
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: zinfamous
...and no one considers porter a "dessert beer." that doesn't make any sense. if anything, people who drink beer consider porter a "real man's beer."

Way to speak for the whole of humanity :roll: It's described as such because porters made with chocolate tend to be less bitter, more smooth, some pretty sweet actually, something you don't chug down with dinner. Something you'd nurse after dinner, etc.

there are only a few porters made with chocolate. it is absolutely not a requirement to use chocolate in brewing a porter.

Of course not. Some Porters are made with coffee instead.

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is this thing on? tap tap

Most porters, and stouts, are just pure beers. Water, malt, barley, and yeast. Maybe some additional spices.

Coffee? Now I'm just confused. Is there really a coffee porter or stout? That's something I would be interested in trying.

A lot of people confuse review comments such as "notes of chocolate" or various spices or other flavors, as meaning those flavors are actually a constituent of the beer. Malted barley can impart some hints of flavors when roasted, but unless the bottle says it has chocolate or some spice in it, it is most likely the case that it is not actually in it.
(this was mostly geared to anyone who has been confused about beer critics commenting about notes of random flavors)
 

vi edit

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No, there's actually coffee stouts. I've made them and had them at other microbrews. You just grind up some coffee beans and drop them in the mash along with the grains during the initial steeping.

 

GoatMonkey

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You should go with something like Milwaukee's Best or Natural Light because that's the standard starting point for most beer drinkers in college who can't afford anything better. Drink it with some really hot buffalo wings. If it's the only thing you have to drink the positive reinforcement of it cooling down you burning mouth will help you enjoy your first beer.

 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: HybridSquirrel
its legal here in colorado. they sell a half liter for about 25 bucks.
proof

Nice.

it's not the same Absinthe available in Europe. It has to fit the legal requirements in the US for thujone quantity, which as I've read is 10ppm. All Lucid states is it has less than the U.S. maximum limit to be considered Thujone-free. So it could have 10ppm, could have 4ppm.

As I've read it, it seems most European varieties contain 35ppm or more.

Still, I'd be interested in trying it. Though I've heard the thujone content of european varieties, while they don't produce hallucinations, provide a different feeling that makes for a great drink that permits deep conversations while sipping on it with friends.
So who knows. Would love to try real European absinthe and then try the type legal in the U.S.

Still don't get why it's illegal. At the most, all thujone really does it make deep thinking and conversation come naturally. It doesn't do anything crazy like it's been made out to do.
Stupid media hype back in the old day that made politicians fear it, yet Europe's never had a problem with it.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: vi edit
No, there's actually coffee stouts. I've made them and had them at other microbrews. You just grind up some coffee beans and drop them in the mash along with the grains during the initial steeping.

Does it just get the oils or is caffeine absorbed too in the steeping process? It would make sense for the caffeine to end up in the beer, but not sure if the chemistry and biological activity has an impact.

I believe porters and stouts, and any beer type for that matter, can really be made with just about any flavor desired.
I've just never seen a coffee stout in a store, so I've never gotten to try one. Would definitely the moment I come across one.

But in general, a stout or porter is just like any other beer in the ingredient list. It just happens to be the beer type most likely to have other big flavor ingredients like chocolate or [apparently] coffee added because those flavors won't compete with the character of the roasted malts.

I saw one comment in this thread about Guinness as a suggestion if coffee is an enjoyable flavor. There is no coffee in Guinness, and this comment confuses the hell out of me.
I like coffee, and can tolerate Guinness (it's good if served and poured properly), but those preferences aren't related.
And I'd prefer just about any other stout or porter put in front of me versus Guinness.
 

narzy

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get a 40 of steel reserve, if you can't drink that, you don't deserve beer...
 

vi edit

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I don't know if there's any caffeine retained in a coffee stout or not. I only had about 4oz of ground coffee spread across 6 cases worth of eventual beer. And I'm sure that the sugars in the beer eat some of it up. All that's left is a very identifiable coffee aroma and just a touch of coffee flavor, although it was very subtle with my batch.

As for the the comparison between coffee and guinness/stouts it's fair. To get the darkness of a stout you are using very roasted grains. That roasting imparts a certain amount of bitterness that is not unlike the roasting process and flavors of coffee beans. They have similarities.
 

Fenixgoon

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yuengling is a pretty solid lager (good price/taste). it's not fantastic, but i consider it my standard when judging beers.
 

Miklebud

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Originally posted by: shocksyde
DOGFISH HEAD PUNKIN ALE

Do not ask questions. Just buy some.

MMMMMMMMM Delicious!!!
Although, I've been drinking Shipyard Pumpkinhead Ale like a fish!
 

kalrith

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Well, I said I wouldn't update until the morning, but I don't feel like going to sleep yet. I did try the Mothership Wit tonight, and I actually liked it (for the most part). It didn't taste like I thought beer would. I have some experience with how alcohol tastes, but beer's obviously different from wine and champagne. With all the piss comments on here, the first couple drinks did kind of taste like strong piss . However, once I got used to it, I actually enjoyed it. It reminded me of some of the lighter wines I drank when I first started drinking wine, but it felt smoother and didn't have the bad aftertaste that I sometimes experience from wine.

They didn't sell it individually, so I had to get a 6-pack. I wound up drinking 3 of them . The first was definitely the best, being the right temperature (I didn't have a fridge or cooler), but I didn't want the others to go to waste. What I found most interesting was that after I got used to the flavor, I thought it was a little on the weak side and will probably go for something stronger next time. It wasn't weak in the aspect of lacking alcohol, but the flavor itself was a little weak. I like really strong coffee. I don't know if that's applicable or not, but someone mentioned earlier in the thread that that might affect what beers I would like.
 
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