I'm a broken record, but September 2015 is the warmest in history

shira

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Another record month, in a year that will almost certainly be the warmest on record. Note also that no month in any year in history has had a temperature higher than the then-average for the month than September 2015's 0.90 degrees C above the historical September average.

The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for September 2015 was the highest for September in the 136-year period of record, at 0.90°C (1.62°F) above the 20th century average of 15.0°C (59.0°F), surpassing the previous record set last year in 2014 by 0.12°C (0.19°F). This marks the fifth consecutive month a monthly high temperature record has been set and is the highest departure from average for any month among all 1629 months in the record that began in January 1880. The September temperature is currently increasing at an average rate of 0.06°C (0.11°F) per decade.

Separately, the September average temperature across global land surfaces was 1.16°C (2.09°F) above the 20th century average, also the highest for September on record. Large regions of Earth's land surfaces were much warmer than average, according to the Land & Ocean Temperature Percentiles map above. Record warmth was observed across northeastern Africa stretching into the Middle East, part of southeastern Asia, most of the northern half of South America, and parts of central and eastern North America. Southern South America, far western Canada, Alaska, and a swath across central Asia were cooler or much cooler than average.


And of course, the temperature for all of 2015 is going to set a record.

The first nine months of 2015 comprised the warmest such period on record across the world's land and ocean surfaces, at 0.85°C (1.53°F) above the 20th century average, surpassing the previous records of 2010 and 2014 by 0.12°C (0.21°F). Seven months this year, including the past five, have been record warm for their respective months. January was the second warmest January on record and April third warmest.

The average global sea surface temperature of +0.69°C (+1.24°F) for the year-to-date was the highest for January–September in the 136-year period of record, surpassing the previous record of 2014 by 0.06°C (0.11°F). The average land surface temperature departure from average of +1.28°C (+2.30°F) was also the highest on record for September, surpassing the previous record of 2007 by 0.16°C (0.29°F).

Oh, and if you're going to claim that it's just a strong El Nino that's responsible:

With strong El Niño conditions in place, the September global sea surface temperature was 0.81°C (1.46°F) above the 20th century average of 16.2°C (61.1°F), the highest departure for September on record, beating the previous record set last year by 0.07°C (0.13°F). This departure from average is also 0.25°C (0.45°F) higher than the global ocean temperature for September 1997, when the last strong El Niño occurred.

Edit: Unsurprisingly, climate-denial-central (aka WattsUpWithThat.com) continues its valiant fight to understate what's happening with the Earth's temperature, and informs us that

Globally it was the fifth warmest September in the satellite record.
 
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Genx87

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I for one welcomed the warm month of Sept and the warm month of October in MN. Hard to believe we are 1 week from November and still growing in our garden.
 
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You can't release this data in fall or winter when the weather is cold; most people can't disassociate the concept of global climate from their local weather, so if you tell them 2015 is the warmest year ever when it's 20 degrees outside, the response is going to be "good, we could use some more of that." They need to release these results in the dead heat of August where it's 115 degrees in Minnesota and half the country is on fire. That's the only way people will ever take it seriously.
 

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glenn1

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Good, I'm tired of hearing the broken record and once the icecaps melt you guys will be too busy swimming to bother the rest of us anymore.
 

shira

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I for one welcomed the warm month of Sept and the warm month of October in MN. Hard to believe we are 1 week from November and still growing in our garden.

But it might be a little difficult for 150 million years of deciduous-tree evolution to abruptly adjust to endless 60+ degree days.
 

michal1980

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dont worry the world wont end, it will just be different.


Why are you fighting a progressive movement?
 

shira

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dont worry the world wont end, it will just be different.


Why are you fighting a progressive movement?
The same could be said about removing all restrictions on abortions.

So why are you fighting a progressive movement?
 

artvscommerce

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dont worry the world wont end, it will just be different.


Why are you fighting a progressive movement?

Don't worry, if someone cuts off your arm your life won't end. it will just be different. (for example, you will be a few pounds lighter)

Why are you fighting a progressive movement?
 

bshole

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Don't worry, if someone cuts off your arm your life won't end. it will just be different. (for example, you will be a few pounds lighter)

Why are you fighting a progressive movement?

Um.... right... record crop yields and an unprecedented rate in global greening (due to warmth and CO2) are just like cutting your arm off. More Americans than ever are dying due to OBESITY.... hint.... hint.... hint.... That concept was nonexistent a century ago.
 

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I'm very skeptical of the whole global warming thing, but man if by some miracle it's actually true I hope it comes sooner than later, do you know what kind of winters we get here in Buffalo !? Cmon now I want to be wearing my bathing suit in January already.
 

bradley

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There's an extremely minuscule small sample size for recorded history versus an earth likely 4.5 billion years old. It doesn't even represent a blip or help to prove anthropomorphic global warming, climate change or whatever is trending in scientific opportunism and hockey. But I'm looking at the entire forest and not any one particular tree. I can even see a ginormous sun when outside.

I'm very skeptical of the whole global warming thing, but man if by some miracle it's actually true I hope it comes sooner than later, do you know what kind of winters we get here in Buffalo !? Cmon now I want to be wearing my bathing suit in January already.

New York had its coldest winter last year in over 100 years of *recorded* history. But cold just the same. Even Niagara Falls froze over twice.
 

shira

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I'm very skeptical of the whole global warming thing, but man if by some miracle it's actually true I hope it comes sooner than later, do you know what kind of winters we get here in Buffalo !? Cmon now I want to be wearing my bathing suit in January already.
You do understand, don't you, that if temperatures in Buffalo increased such that a typical January day were like a typical July day is now, that means an almost 50-degree F increase in temperatures?

With that in mind, while you're imagining lounging in your bathing suit on an 80-degree January day in Buffalo, why don't you also imagine what you'll be doing on all those 130-degree July days.
 

Genx87

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But it might be a little difficult for 150 million years of deciduous-tree evolution to abruptly adjust to endless 60+ degree days.

Given where I am sitting right now was under a 1 kilometer thick glacier 12,000 years ago. I'm confident the trees will adapt.
 

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Another record month, in a year that will almost certainly be the warmest on record. Note also that no month in any year in history has had a temperature higher than the then-average for the month than September 2015's 0.90 degrees C above the historical September average.




And of course, the temperature for all of 2015 is going to set a record.



Oh, and if you're going to claim that it's just a strong El Nino that's responsible:



Edit: Unsurprisingly, climate-denial-central (aka WattsUpWithThat.com) continues its valiant fight to understate what's happening with the Earth's temperature, and informs us that

Since you're not a climate scientist (the only ones qualified to speak on the subject, according to idiot liberals hand-waving away countless scientists poking holes in alarmists' bullshit), why should anyone listen to you?
 

boomerang

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shira, isn't there some anti-anxiety medication you could take for this? Maybe some group therapy where you actually sit with real live people and express your anxieties would help.
 

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I'm very skeptical of the whole global warming thing, but man if by some miracle it's actually true I hope it comes sooner than later, do you know what kind of winters we get here in Buffalo !? Cmon now I want to be wearing my bathing suit in January already.
Higher temperatures lead to a pool of warmer water somewhere near Alaska. That leads to a trough or something just over the Canadian border, which leads to some sort of blocking mechanism for the polar jet stream, which leads to the circulation of very very cold weather at the north pole to dip down into New York. Remember last winter? Last winter sucked balls in Western NY. Snowballs.
 

dainthomas

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But it might be a little difficult for 150 million years of deciduous-tree evolution to abruptly adjust to endless 60+ degree days.

Now it's the warmest in 150 million years?

I'm sure plants love the increased CO2 and warmth.
 

shira

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Since you're not a climate scientist (the only ones qualified to speak on the subject, according to idiot liberals hand-waving away countless scientists poking holes in alarmists' bullshit), why should anyone listen to you?
I'm merely quoting what the climate scientists are reporting. Unlike Freeman Dyson (and, apparently, you), I'm not claiming to know more than they do.
 

shira

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shira, isn't there some anti-anxiety medication you could take for this? Maybe some group therapy where you actually sit with real live people and express your anxieties would help.
I feel totally calm. Or didn't you know that lizard-brained conservatives are the ones who live in constant fear?
 

shira

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Given where I am sitting right now was under a 1 kilometer thick glacier 12,000 years ago. I'm confident the trees will adapt.

I myself am not so sure. My container blueberry bush almost died when I took it in last winter. And although it survived, the lack of a sufficient chilling period resulted in no berries this year. Considering that fruit is the strategy many plants use to reproduce, it doesn't take much of an imagination to project a pretty big die-off of plant species if the climate gets warm enough.

We are talking about people asking for "Bermuda shorts in Buffalo in January" weather, remember. That's a 50 degree increase. I doubt the last ice age reduced average temperatures by anything close to that much.

Edit: I wanted to check my guess, and a fast Google found this:

The Earth is ancient. Scientists estimate that it is about 4.6 billion years old. Over all those years, the climate on Earth has changed back and forth between warm and cold. At times, the Earth has been a tropical, humid place. But now and again, the Earth turned cold and wrapped itself in sheets of ice. These cycles of warm and cold take millions of years. They are caused by changes in the way the Earth orbits the sun and how it tilts on its axis, which affect how much of the sun's heat reaches the Earth. The last great cold cycle, which we know as the Ice Age, ended about 10,000 years ago.

During the Ice Age, the Earth's average temperature was about 12 degrees Fahrenheit colder than it is today.

12 degrees. And you're "confident" that 50 would be no problem.
 
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maddie

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A complex system like the climate will oscillate between stable states. Trying to maintain a stasis is truly crazy in my opinion.

Also, if no specie ever goes extinct, then we have decided that evolution should be retired and Humans now are the arbiters which organism lives or dies.

We have reached perfection and let no man oppose.
 

TheVrolok

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Higher temperatures lead to a pool of warmer water somewhere near Alaska. That leads to a trough or something just over the Canadian border, which leads to some sort of blocking mechanism for the polar jet stream, which leads to the circulation of very very cold weather at the north pole to dip down into New York. Remember last winter? Last winter sucked balls in Western NY. Snowballs.

He said it was colder! Colder! No global warming! Colder!
 
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