I'm a GEEK/***IE 6.0 vs OPERA 6.0***/cough/*** wth is Bobcat!?

[Random Variable]

[/i] >>

That is making fun of all the folks who have named all these crap browserlets that no one has ever heard of before. Ever. Sketcher, you should've specified that more then 20 people worldwide have to use the browswer in order for said browser to be considered for inclusion in your poll![/i] >>


Ummm...there were only seven different browsers mentioned in this thread.

 

[MichaelD]

He only had four when he started the thread.

 

[Elledan]

<< He only had four when he started the thread. >>


And a little competition is bad because....?

 

[Random Variable]

Actually, because Links and Lynx are so similiar, there were really only 6 browsers mentioned.

 

[Elledan]

<< Actually, because Links and Lynx are so similiar, there were really only 6 browsers mentioned. >>


Links and Lynx similar?!

ROFL... these two browsers are just as similar as IE and Netscape/Mozilla are

 

[MichaelD]

I'm just being a butt (can't you tell?) I've never used anything but one of the very first versions of Netscape and every version of IE. Currently using IE 5.5 and have no reason to switch. me\<---goes away from this thread now

 

[Random Variable]

<< Links and Lynx similar?! >>


All text-based browsers are the same to me.

EDIT: The same in that I avoid them like the plague.

 

[Elledan]

<<

<< Links and Lynx similar?! >>


All text-based browsers are the same to me.

EDIT: The same in that I avoid them like the plague. >>


Hehe... I use Links and w3m on a 486 w/ Linux installed. XFree can't even run properly on the thing, so it's my only option. It does have its advantages, though. Pages load lightning fast, JS, Flash, images (read: banners) can give no problems and virii are left clueless as well

 

[royaldank]

<< This is exactly what I was talking about in my previous post about standards: those fools at Microsoft decided to make their browser "cooler" than anyone else's by implementing useless but cool-looking things that no other browser supports!

This is how the "Best viewed with Internet Explorer" messages came about. >>




But is this necessarily a bad thing? I mean, when you buy a car, you get options from the dealer. If everyone just stuck to a standard, we'd all be driving a Ford Tempo just like out neighbors.

I mean, as long as it properly handles all the agreed and certified standards, whats wrong with extras? It should be the developer's decision whether or not to use them...it's them causing you to use only IE because they implemented options not available in other browsers.

 

[Elledan]

<< I mean, as long as it properly handles all the agreed and certified standards, whats wrong with extras? It should be the developer's decision whether or not to use them...it's them causing you to use only IE because they implemented options not available in other browsers. >>

There's nothing against adding some extras, but the company which produces the browser should stick to existing standards in the first place. MSFT does what it wants and will only stick to a standard if it's in its own advantage.

 

[Sketcher]

MichaelD wrote, among other things...


<< Sketcher, you should've specified that more then 20 people worldwide have to use the browswer in order for said browser to be considered for inclusion in your poll! >>



I actually agree with that sentiment - to a point. Hence my EDIT and reduction of topics "after the fact", "after everyone has voted" and "after I don't know what the heck all these (unkown for a reason) browsers are mentioned".

However,

<< Confirmed* Rooty-Tooty-Fresh 'n Fruity Browzilla >>

gets honorable mention and inclusion in POLL cuz it fLat out ROCKS! And cuz somethin' had to replace LYNX. Sorry LYNX, text-based browza's no matter how cool - just ain't cuttin' it here.

 

[royaldank]

<< There's nothing against adding some extras, but the company which produces the browser should stick to existing standards in the first place. MSFT does what it wants and will only stick to a standard if it's in its own advantage. >>




But, what standard(s) have they not implemented? I don't remember reading any HTML books that say, "while a standard, this is possible in every browser except IE."

 

[Sketcher]

Well, I just installed Opera. Looks kinda nice. Doesn't seem faster than IE 6.0 w/my current settings though. But then, I've only used it for the last hour. Takes some getting used to, but I can see why some peeps like it. Little things can make a diff. I like the statistics indicators at the bottom of the browse window. Nice touch. Other things are a bit frustrating, but might just be a new/different factor.

Anybody out there played w/Opera, speak up! or forever hold your IE.

 

[royaldank]

I've got OPERA installed but have only used it a couple times. I generally use IE because I'm used to it. But, I did think Opera was slightly faster. Maybe I was just on crack at the time and buying into their claim (hype).

 

[Random Variable]

<< But, what standard(s) have they not implemented? I don't remember reading any HTML books that say, "while a standard, this is possible in every browser except IE." >>


W3C standards

 

[jjones]

IE 5.5 because it works just fine for me; never have any problems with it and I never liked Netscape although I have it installed and use it to check coding compatibility for site design.

 

[Nefrodite]

ie 6= doesn't crash in win2k/xp, loads fast, cant complain. ppl dont like ms for some reason..bah!
netscape=installs spyware, slower loading, owned by evil corp AOL which is more deserving of hatred then ms.
opera=heardit has problems with some pages. supposed to use less resources, but with memory prices the way they have been..who gives a #@%. i

 

[veryape]

Opera is the best all around browser IMO, it's fast and does basically anything any other browser can do and then some, I especially like the search function, the only sites that give me problems when i'm running Opera are microshaft owned sites. Isn't that just ridiculous that they actually make it so you have to run their browser to properly view their site. Screw them, I just don't go to their sites, and I use a better browser. Seems like a good trade-off to me.

[EDIT]Opera is a lot faster than IE if you have the settings right. I think it's even faster with it set up wrong. I use it and never use IE, at least not for the last 6 months or so. Version 6 is great. Much faster than IE6.

 

[trmiv]

I use IE 6 in Windows and Konqueror when I'm in Linux. I like IE 6 the best though, its clean, fast, and works for me. I have it configured with small buttons and no text next to the buttons, so the tool bars are really small, which leaves a lot of space for the browser window. Plus, the Google toolbar is currently only available for IE, and I LOVE the google toolbar. I've tried Opera, but it just didn't do it for me. I couldn't stand that big banner ad, and I saw nothing about the browser that made me want to pay $39 to get rid of the ad.

 

[Sketcher]

veryape wrote,

<< Opera is the best all around browser IMO, it's fast and does basically anything any other browser can do and then some, I especially like the search function, the only sites that give me problems when i'm running Opera are microshaft owned sites. Isn't that just ridiculous that they actually make it so you have to run their browser to properly view their site. Screw them, I just don't go to their sites, and I use a better browser. Seems like a good trade-off to me. >>

So what's the "and then some"? I just installed Opera and am using it and IE 6.0.

Nefrodite wrote,

<< ie 6= doesn't crash in win2k/xp, loads fast, cant complain. ppl dont like ms for some reason..bah!
netscape=installs spyware, slower loading, owned by evil corp AOL which is more deserving of hatred then ms.
opera=heardit has problems with some pages. supposed to use less resources, but with memory prices the way they have been..who gives a #@%. i >>

I tend to agree with you there. Going against the grain though and testing these "heard it" speculations. I don't think there's really a question anymore about which Browser's better overall (paranoia/ms propoganda aside) - but there have got to be some good reasons why people use "other". Tryin' to get down to the bones of the meat.

 

[tasslex]

IE is the best. Microsoft did an excellent job on it. I hope that Mozilla or Opera gets as good or better than IE is now so MS will be pushed to make it even better. Fighting Netscape for Market Share really did make them create the better product.

 

[MajesticMoose]

I've tried them all, and I prefer IE. I like opera a lot but it still can't handle some things as well as the others. In a bit of time, it may be able to compete with the others though. Netscape is, well netscape is netscape, nuf said. Mozilla is just as ugly as netscape, but it seemed more stable. The vulcan mind melding is just too damn tiring for most humans, so just stick with IE.

m00se

 

[Sketcher]

Runnin' Extended Desktop, EI 6.0 and Opera 6.0 side by side. Think I can get used to this Opera thing. Nice change in scenery.

1. Some pages do seem to load a little faster through Opera.
2. Banner Crap!? BUY OPERA!? $39.00 somebody smokin' crack?
3. As previously mentioned - Opera doesn't like MS sites.
4. Keep getting prompted for un-secure password transmission.
5. Don't think I like #4.
6. Toggle view panes are nice, as are the load stats @ page bottom.

Has anybody "bought" the Opera Browser? If so, any noticeable difference in performance - aside from the absence of banners? For Opera users what is it that you're saying is SO much Better in Opera? I'm finding nice touches here and there but nothing that begs a bias.

 

[Sketcher]

Get Back Up there!!!! We Need OPERA users in here Darn-it!!! Or have all the tweakers gone home for the evening?

 

[eplebnista]

Opera 6